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Not too disappointed with Appleton to be honest. His reputation within the game is very good and my fera was that we were going to appoint one the of same, tired old faces like Dowie or Boothroyd. Giving a young guy with a good coaching reputation is an encouraging move. In fact, someone I know who works at Brentford says they approached him in the summer about the managers job and he turned them down because he wanted to manage at a higher level but the rumour was that he was the driving force behind WBA's promotion and effectively carried Di Matteo. Time will tell I guess but not unhappy with the move

 

The thing that ammuses me most about his appointment is that in 6 months time you're going to be wishing you'd appointed Stuart Gray!!!

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His reputation within the game is very good

 

I've had a 'discussion' with a skate who insisted appointing this bloke was no different to us appointing Adkins. I did point out that Adkins already had managerial experince before coming to SMS and had won 2 promotions and that taking Appleton on was more like us appointing Gray and Wigley. Both had "fantastic reputations in the game" unfortunately it only applied to them at coaching level and who both failed disastrously as managers. Fingers croseed then.

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I've had a 'discussion' with a skate who insisted appointing this bloke was no different to us appointing Adkins. I did point out that Adkins already had managerial experince before coming to SMS and had won 2 promotions and that taking Appleton on was more like us appointing Gray and Wigley. Both had "fantastic reputations in the game" unfortunately it only applied to them at coaching level and who both failed disastrously as managers. Fingers croseed then.

 

Surely this is just identical to us appointing Pearson?

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Corp, regarding the companies registry... you have a PM.

 

My skate mates are fuming, which of course makes it much more enjoyable.

 

Why are they fuming? Highest spenders in the league two seasons running, billionaire owners who are not the Russian mafia, whose father was not gunned down in Russia....

 

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F*ck of Voldermort, your a nobody and no body likes you... even Kitson earns 20x your wage and hes just a ginger c*nt

 

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It will be interesting to see how the bestest fanzz in the whole wurld will respond to this chap... he clearly cant be that sharp to walk into this lot... unless some of Vlads boys went to visit him and Hodgson, calmly placed their revolvers on the table and made the derisory offer, which aint so derisory when the only alternative is a life of hiding from the mafia

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Not too disappointed with Appleton to be honest. His reputation within the game is very good and my fera was that we were going to appoint one the of same, tired old faces like Dowie or Boothroyd. Giving a young guy with a good coaching reputation is an encouraging move. In fact, someone I know who works at Brentford says they approached him in the summer about the managers job and he turned them down because he wanted to manage at a higher level but the rumour was that he was the driving force behind WBA's promotion and effectively carried Di Matteo. Time will tell I guess but not unhappy with the move

 

If anything this gives me a great deal of confidence that he will be a complete flop given that your past record with rumours is so dreadful.

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"reputation within the game", is a Cliché trotted out in football, when people are wondering who the hell someone is.

 

It is used by fans to show how knowledable they are about the game, and that they are not just supporters but serious football people.

 

How do you aquire this tag of "repuation within the game"? Steve Keen has it, as did Mark Wotte, Wiggley and Stewart Gray. Football is basically an old boys network, so there's always going to be someone saying good things about you.

 

Adkins had 2 promotions from the league we were in at the time, was manging in the league above us, they are totally different appointments and even the most one eyed Skate could see that. When they were talking about Dave Jones, SOD and Steve Coppell they can only be dissapointed with this guy.

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As much as I want to laugh at them for making this appointment, I can't. As pointed out by others, it seems a sensible move, financially, and suggests they are trying to live within their means and build for the future. It's also good to see young coaches given a chance to step up a level.

 

If it wasn't Pompey, I'd wish him well and hope he's a success. But it is, so unfortunately I hope he's an abject failure.

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"That plan includes improving the infrastructure of the football club and getting hold of the training ground they own,"

 

What does the bit in bold actually mean? Getting hold of any old patch of land they can call their own, given that they rent at the moment?

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Clearly appointed as the cheap option, if the 2k per week rumour is to be believed.

 

Perhaps sensible for them, however as the manager is the most important person at any club, then skimping on that appointment may be just plain mad.

 

Big risk on an untried 35 year old, but will at least be a cheap payout if/when they have to sack him.

 

When that day comes let's hope that Stuart Gray is still waiting in the wings to take over .... :rolleyes:

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Not too disappointed with Appleton to be honest. His reputation within the game is very good and my fera was that we were going to appoint one the of same, tired old faces like Dowie or Boothroyd. Giving a young guy with a good coaching reputation is an encouraging move. In fact, someone I know who works at Brentford says they approached him in the summer about the managers job and he turned them down because he wanted to manage at a higher level but the rumour was that he was the driving force behind WBA's promotion and effectively carried Di Matteo. Time will tell I guess but not unhappy with the move

 

A rumour that undoubtedly only came about after he got the job at Fratton and one that doesn't wash really - you cannot compare the blue few to that West Brom team, they were much, much better than what you have now. It's incredible really, some of the stuff people will say to try and make an appointment look good.

 

Its like when we signed Olivier Bernard and people (I confess, I was one) said he was great to try and convince themselves!

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Clearly appointed as the cheap option, if the 2k per week rumour is to be believed.

 

Perhaps sensible for them, however as the manager is the most important person at any club, then skimping on that appointment may be just plain mad.

 

Big risk on an untried 35 year old, but will at least be a cheap payout if/when they have to sack him.

 

When that day comes let's hope that Stuart Gray is still waiting in the wings to take over .... :rolleyes:

 

Even more so when a number of their players are on wages rumoured to be ten times in excess of that.

 

Fair play to giving a young coach a go; time will tell if he's any good or not, but I think it'll either be a complete masterstroke or an utter catastrophe.

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tbf their dire situation and infrastructure meant they wouldn't have been able to attract one of many 'once okay but now lost interest and looking for a last payday' managers around. Thats a lucky break for them imo. The guy has a good reputation as a coach and looks scary enough to get a form of respect as manager. Its definitely as risk but who knows, if he has nous as well he could be a very good appointment - certainly better than a Burley or Adams.

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tbf their dire situation and infrastructure meant they wouldn't have been able to attract one of many 'once okay but now lost interest and looking for a last payday' managers around. Thats a lucky break for them imo. The guy has a good reputation as a coach and looks scary enough to get a form of respect as manager. Its definitely as risk but who knows, if he has nous as well he could be a very good appointment - certainly better than a Burley or Adams.

 

Let's be honest, we all know he wasn't the 1st choice and are all relieved they didn't get O'Driscoll or Howe, who they clearly wanted.

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According to to the editor of the Portsmouth News on Twitter, they will be breaking what they describe as a "big" story about Harry Redknapp at 2.30pm today. I wonder if that's when the reporting restrictions on the court case expire?

 

Looks like he's up before the beak for 2 charges of cheating the public revenue (tax evasion?) Jan 23rd

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****flaps and mandick to stand trial in January

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/12/tottenham-harry-redknapp-tax-trial

 

"Redknapp denies any wrongdoing but would have good reason for his mind to be on other matters when Tottenham Hotspur take on the current Premier League leaders, Manchester City, at the Etihad Stadium the day before the proceedings begin.

 

The timing of the trial may interfere with his club's preparations for the Premier League matches against Wigan Athletic and Liverpool, and, should Spurs qualify, the fourth round of the FA Cup on 28 January.

 

Redknapp and Mandaric, the owner of Sheffield Wednesday, both face two counts of cheating the public revenue. Their alleged offences relate to tax payments due while the pair were respectively manager and chairman of Portsmouth.

 

The indictment laid down by prosecutors states: "Mandaric and Redknapp, between 1 April 2002 and 28 November 2007, with intent to defraud and to the prejudice of HM Revenue and Customs, arranged for $145,000, paid by Mandaric as a result of or in connection with Redknapp's employment and as a reward for services, to be transferred to a Monaco bank account opened by Redknapp for that purpose, in order to conceal the said emolument from HM Revenue and Customs and evade the payment of income tax and national insurance contributions thereon (whether by the operation of PAYE by the club or otherwise)."

 

As for count two, the indictment states: "Mandaric and Redknapp between 1 May 2004 and 28 November 2007, with intent to defraud and to the prejudice of HM Revenue and Customs, arranged for $150,000, paid by Mandaric as a result of or in connection with Redknapp's employment and as a reward for services, to be transferred to a Monaco bank account opened by Redknapp for that purpose, in order to conceal the said employment income from HM Revenue and Customs and evade the payment of income tax and national insurance contributions thereon (whether by the operation of PAYE by the club or otherwise)."

 

The pair will fight the charges in a trial scheduled to last two weeks."

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Makes you wonder...

 

Still, we know one thing for sure - this thread can last until the early part of 2012 !!!!!

 

I think there is plenty of mileage left it in yet. I wonder if this also will have any impact on the Skates in terms of an FA "financial irregularlity" type investigation. Probably wishful thinking.

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What do you reckon Mack? Opening of the floodgates....?????!!

 

No i don't, You know as well as i do that most of the football world thinks Old Saggy walks on water,(that doesn't include our two city's) And if the powers that be aim on getting shot of the Bubble after the European and installing (are arry) as the next Gaffa, Then strings will be pulled,

If there is a Major upset with a shock!:rolleyes: Guilty verdict. I don't think it will affect PFC as its between MadMandy and him.

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No i don't, You know as well as i do that most of the football world thinks Old Saggy walks on water,(that doesn't include our two city's) And if the powers that be aim on getting shot of the Bubble after the European and installing (are arry) as the next Gaffa, Then strings will be pulled,

If there is a Major upset with a shock!:rolleyes: Guilty verdict. I don't think it will affect PFC as its between MadMandy and him.

 

I wouldn't be too sure.

 

IIRC those payments were made by Mandy in his position as owner, as recompense for 'Arry's work. Thus akin to wages / bonus from the club to 'Arry. Therefore it could also be construed as the entity of the football club avoiding taxes.... Whether it will or not is another matter, especially with the Prem league's penchant for covering up as many wrongdoings as it can...

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Why does anyone expect anything to happen? HMRC lost against Pompey FFS, they're clearly protected so nothing is going to happen to Storrie or the future England manager. Move on.

 

This

 

If there was tax avoidaqnce and Mlan was paying 'Arry for services related to his work then there would be issues over National Insurance that the Club should have paid.

 

Don't see any mention of that. This really should not impact on their continued stumble towards the really dark side

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Why does anyone expect anything to happen? HMRC lost against Pompey FFS, they're clearly protected so nothing is going to happen to Storrie or the future England manager. Move on.

 

Obviously the Judge at the Hearing thought that there was more mileage in all this after hearing the preliminaries. Cannot wait until 23rd January.

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As others have noted, if Peter Storrie has fessed up everyone else to save his own arse he will have no worries about dropping the club in it. Up until this point it was widely perceived that they could only face sanctions based on his actions. With full immunity being provided and a prosecution prepped and supported by the HMRC there may be some interesting nuggets to drop out of this, and potentially other cases that may follow.

 

I am not sure whether a 10 pointer this year will have any effect on them, I just hope they get seen by the general football public as the low-rent chancers that they are as opposed to the media's 'plucky Pompey' tag.

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Why does anyone expect anything to happen? HMRC lost against Pompey FFS, they're clearly protected so nothing is going to happen to Storrie or the future England manager. Move on.

 

I would suggest that you hold your breath on that one...watch what happens to Rangers in Scotland, and look to see how many clubs will pay up a 'buy out' on taxes owed. Poopey could still catch a cold imho!

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As others have noted, if Peter Storrie has fessed up everyone else to save his own arse he will have no worries about dropping the club in it. Up until this point it was widely perceived that they could only face sanctions based on his actions. With full immunity being provided and a prosecution prepped and supported by the HMRC there may be some interesting nuggets to drop out of this, and potentially other cases that may follow.

 

I am not sure whether a 10 pointer this year will have any effect on them, I just hope they get seen by the general football public as the low-rent chancers that they are as opposed to the media's 'plucky Pompey' tag.

 

IMHO the only real way any new sanctions can be aimed at them would have to come from UEFA or FIFA. They can be seen as having taken the PL punishment and moved on points deduction wise. The ONLY real harm that could come out of the trial would be "Un-Registered Agents" ala Luton. BUT with this being a very specific charge in this specific case, UNLESS 'Arry turns "grass" to save his career (IF he felt he could lose) there really is no way that the English Authorities would see any need. OR if 'Arry has evidence that "misrepresentations" were made to the Authorities about finances, but then what would be the gain for 'Arry, the submissions to court by Storrie were after 'Arrys days.

 

BUT if some of the dodgy deals/agents broke UEFA rules there may be some grumbles.. BUT with the way English Football keeps p1ssing off Blatter, something coming out that is FIFA related - that may be a different kettle of skates.

 

Still think it highly unlikely anything will stick to the few. But that's fine, they will bumble along mending clocks and finding ways to save water

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/12/tottenham-harry-redknapp-tax-trial.

 

The indictment laid down by prosecutors states: "Mandaric and Redknapp, between 1 April 2002 and 28 November 2007, with intent to defraud and to the prejudice of HM Revenue and Customs, arranged for $145,000, paid by Mandaric as a result of or in connection with Redknapp's employment and as a reward for services, to be transferred to a Monaco bank account opened by Redknapp for that purpose, in order to conceal the said emolument from HM Revenue and Customs and evade the payment of income tax and national insurance contributions thereon (whether by the operation of PAYE by the club or otherwise)."

 

As for count two, the indictment states: "Mandaric and Redknapp between 1 May 2004 and 28 November 2007, with intent to defraud and to the prejudice of HM Revenue and Customs, arranged for $150,000, paid by Mandaric as a result of or in connection with Redknapp's employment and as a reward for services, to be transferred to a Monaco bank account opened by Redknapp for that purpose, in order to conceal the said employment income from HM Revenue and Customs and evade the payment of income tax and national insurance contributions thereon (whether by the operation of PAYE by the club or otherwise)."

 

The pair will fight the charges in a trial scheduled to last two weeks."

 

Phil.

 

Are you being deliberately retarded, or did you just happen to miss this rather important part of the statement not once, but twice?

 

This

 

If there was tax avoidaqnce and Mlan was paying 'Arry for services related to his work then there would be issues over National Insurance that the Club should have paid.

 

Don't see any mention of that. This really should not impact on their continued stumble towards the really dark side

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I was at an event earlier in the Bournemouth area where coincidentally the subject came up - someone amongst our party claimed to have been told that even Bagpuss's own solicitors are privately saying he is going down for it. I have no idea if this is true but as I heard it first hand thought I'd pass it on.

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I was at an event earlier in the Bournemouth area where coincidentally the subject came up - someone amongst our party claimed to have been told that even Bagpuss's own solicitors are privately saying he is going down for it. I have no idea if this is true but as I heard it first hand thought I'd pass it on.

 

I assume the proof that the money came from Mandaric is fairly irrefutable and similarly that the account it was paid into belonged to bagpuss so I assume the only get out is if they can convince the court that the money related to something that is not subject to tax/NI.

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As others have noted, if Peter Storrie has fessed up everyone else to save his own arse he will have no worries about dropping the club in it. Up until this point it was widely perceived that they could only face sanctions based on his actions. With full immunity being provided and a prosecution prepped and supported by the HMRC there may be some interesting nuggets to drop out of this, and potentially other cases that may follow.

 

I am not sure whether a 10 pointer this year will have any effect on them, I just hope they get seen by the general football public as the low-rent chancers that they are as opposed to the media's 'plucky Pompey' tag.

 

Stop it St. C. You're raising all our hopes up. :D

 

IMHO the only real way any new sanctions can be aimed at them would have to come from UEFA or FIFA. They can be seen as having taken the PL punishment and moved on points deduction wise.

 

That was for going into administration. In theory they could get punished for newly uncovered crimes.

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Luton Town had 10 points deducted for "irregular payments to agents" along with another 20 points for the way they exited their CVA.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7507736.stm

 

"The club argued that the old owners were responsible and that the club should not now be punished for their mistakes, but at a hearing in London on Tuesday the FA rejected their appeal."

 

Could be bad news for Pompey early in the New Year...

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Luton Town had 10 points deducted for "irregular payments to agents" along with another 20 points for the way they exited their CVA.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7507736.stm

 

"The club argued that the old owners were responsible and that the club should not now be punished for their mistakes, but at a hearing in London on Tuesday the FA rejected their appeal."

 

Could be bad news for Pompey early in the New Year...

 

Luton faced 50 different charges though

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Ain't going to happen.

 

If Pompey get deducted points for anything relating to 'arry and Mandaric I will streak at St Mary's this season in the home game afterwards.

 

An incident that would have such an affect it would mean our home attendance would dip below Pompey's very quickly.

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