trousers Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shroppie said: I think his "tight hamstring" seems to have made a miraculous recovery. This. We've finally got a manager who's got the balls to play the 'big club' ruse of withdrawing a player who is "injured" #probablyjustneededtorechargehisbatterries Edited 18 November, 2020 by trousers Link to post Share on other sites
Roo1976 Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 JWP withdraws from England squad ...........its a friendly and wont get picked ahead of a fit Henderson a dreadful Dier and nor be ahead of dream duo partnership Mount and Rice,couple that with would he get a start ahead of Sancho, Grealish and where down the pecking order does that make him in Southgates idea?.....England waste of time ,.....CLUB or COUNTRY?............................... Link to post Share on other sites
Weston Saint Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Danny Ings - operation went well - now running - 4 weeks away from possible return 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Saint_Tony Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 with there being no internationals until March, you'd think thats the end of any chance JWP or Ings had of making the Euros squad gone. Personally think both should be there but Southgate has plenty of options at the bigger clubs. Ings is a far better all round striker than the likes of Abraham and Calvert-Lewin, but looks like they are currently ahead in the pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 1 hour ago, Weston Saint said: Danny Ings - operation went well - now running - 4 weeks away from possible return Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint_Tony said: with there being no internationals until March, you'd think thats the end of any chance JWP or Ings had of making the Euros squad gone. Personally think both should be there but Southgate has plenty of options at the bigger clubs. Ings is a far better all round striker than the likes of Abraham and Calvert-Lewin, but looks like they are currently ahead in the pecking order. By March, Southgate may be gone so no problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Roo1976 Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: By March, Southgate may be gone so no problem. What makes you think that?...........tactically hes got a solid foundation of players to make us strong but, hes still even now trying to place players who for thier clubs play out of position for his team ...Our National team that ,well lets face it never turn up when required to and live upto our as fans overbloated desires . Link to post Share on other sites
VectisSaint Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 6 hours ago, Weston Saint said: Danny Ings - operation went well - now running - 4 weeks away from possible return If that's from today we're back to the "worst case" of 6 weeks out rather than the 4 weeks looking likely earlier this week. Not sure this is good news, more what we were probably expecting. Link to post Share on other sites
JRM Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 14 hours ago, VectisSaint said: If that's from today we're back to the "worst case" of 6 weeks out rather than the 4 weeks looking likely earlier this week. Not sure this is good news, more what we were probably expecting. That's what I was thinking. We're already 3 weeks since the injury, if it's another 4 weeks then he'll miss quite a few games. 4 weeks seems a long time if he's running already. Link to post Share on other sites
TWar Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 https://saintsmarching.com/2020/11/17/southampton-ings-return-action-saints-ahead-schedule/ Semmens said on TSP that he will be back in December and "10 days ahead of schedule". Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench against Brighton, maybe even united. Link to post Share on other sites
Dusic Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 2 hours ago, JRM said: That's what I was thinking. We're already 3 weeks since the injury, if it's another 4 weeks then he'll miss quite a few games. 4 weeks seems a long time if he's running already. Take it you have never had a knee operation? Even a routine one takes a bit of recovering from, let alone being back playing professional sport. Partly physical, one thing running in a straight line, another entirely to twist and turn. Then also mentally to have full confidence in it. If he is back playing by Boxing Day then thats a decent outcome, and nothing to suggest that won't be the case. Link to post Share on other sites
Dusic Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 41 minutes ago, TWar said: https://saintsmarching.com/2020/11/17/southampton-ings-return-action-saints-ahead-schedule/ Semmens said on TSP that he will be back in December and "10 days ahead of schedule". Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench against Brighton, maybe even united. Without going all MLG, Semmens did not say Ings will be back 10 days ahead of schedule. Link to post Share on other sites
VectisSaint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dusic said: Take it you have never had a knee operation? Even a routine one takes a bit of recovering from, let alone being back playing professional sport. Partly physical, one thing running in a straight line, another entirely to twist and turn. Then also mentally to have full confidence in it. If he is back playing by Boxing Day then thats a decent outcome, and nothing to suggest that won't be the case. You are completely missing the point. We were told 2-3 weeks ago he would likely be back in 4-6 weeks, it was all going well, he had had the op. Now Weston reports 4 weeks away from return. Suggests (not knowing when Weston got this information or when it was based on) that his return is at the long end of his predicted return or even longer, rather than the optimistic end of the interval. That's all. The implication from Weston was that it was good news (though he didn't say as much), but actually it is disappointing news based on the original estimates. Link to post Share on other sites
Dusic Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 What I am saying is that these timelines are just estimates and this is real life, not a computer game. If he ends up being ready in 7 weeks overall then that is probably a good outcome for someone who has had serious injuries in the past. I have had the exact operation that Ings had. Whilst its not a serious one, it still takes some proper rehab to recover from, let alone be back playing in a PL team. Certainly he is in good shape to recover well, but its not the type of thing you would rush back from too quickly when realistically an extra week makes little difference. If it takes 7 weeks in the end but he is properly fit and his knee is good then I don't particularly see how that is disappointing, unless you expected him back in 4 weeks, which I personally did not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Dusic said: What I am saying is that these timelines are just estimates and this is real life, not a computer game. If he ends up being ready in 7 weeks overall then that is probably a good outcome for someone who has had serious injuries in the past. I have had the exact operation that Ings had. Whilst its not a serious one, it still takes some proper rehab to recover from, let alone be back playing in a PL team. Certainly he is in good shape to recover well, but its not the type of thing you would rush back from too quickly when realistically an extra week makes little difference. If it takes 7 weeks in the end but he is properly fit and his knee is good then I don't particularly see how that is disappointing, unless you expected him back in 4 weeks, which I personally did not. Indeed. These things can't be rushed. Link to post Share on other sites
VectisSaint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Dusic said: What I am saying is that these timelines are just estimates and this is real life, not a computer game. If he ends up being ready in 7 weeks overall then that is probably a good outcome for someone who has had serious injuries in the past. I have had the exact operation that Ings had. Whilst its not a serious one, it still takes some proper rehab to recover from, let alone be back playing in a PL team. Certainly he is in good shape to recover well, but its not the type of thing you would rush back from too quickly when realistically an extra week makes little difference. If it takes 7 weeks in the end but he is properly fit and his knee is good then I don't particularly see how that is disappointing, unless you expected him back in 4 weeks, which I personally did not. Oh dear. 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 November, 2020 Share Posted 21 November, 2020 22 hours ago, VectisSaint said: Oh dear. 🙄 Not necessarily "Oh dear 🙄". If Theo keeps going as he is, we may not miss Danny quite as much as most people fear. The problem might then be how do we fit Danny and Theo into our side together with Redmond & Djenepo gnawing at the bit on the sidelines and Stuart Armstrong not about to roll over and disappear. The future is bright, it's Red & White! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SFC Forever Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 a front line of Theo, Danny and Che could be very interesting Link to post Share on other sites
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 On current form, I’d have Walcott in over Djenepo and Redmond when Ings returns. Problem is, either him or Armstrong would have to play on the left. Link to post Share on other sites
Toussaint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 What’s wrong with Redmond? Link to post Share on other sites
davefizzy14 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Toussaint said: What’s wrong with Redmond? A minor hamstring injury - Ralph says he will be out for 7-10 days Edited 29 November, 2020 by davefizzy14 Link to post Share on other sites
Toussaint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 6 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: A minor hamstring injury - Ralph says he will be out for 7-10 days Thx Link to post Share on other sites
Shance Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 Any news on Ings' return? Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Le God Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Shance said: Any news on Ings' return? Hasenhuttl said in his last press conference Ings will probably be back for the Brighton game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Shance Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Hasenhuttl said in his last press conference Ings will probably be back for the Brighton game. Wow. Wasn't expecting that. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Master Bates Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 4 hours ago, Shance said: Any news on Ings' return? Appy said last week he's back for Brighton. Assuming bench. Saints U23s play Man Utd Friday so should also give us a clue who'll be in the squad for Brighton. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
eelpie Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Hasenhuttl said in his last press conference Ings will probably be back for the Brighton game. 2 hours ago, Master Bates said: Appy said last week he's back for Brighton. Assuming bench. Saints U23s play Man Utd Friday so should also give us a clue who'll be in the squad for Brighton. On the bench perhaps in case Theo should tire in the second half (when Djenepo could swap sides) But too early to start I would think . I'm slightly worried about Ings returning too soon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted 9 December, 2020 Share Posted 9 December, 2020 Could be a bonus for us. Link to post Share on other sites
Hamilton Saint Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 No injuries to the Saints' squad. Quite astounding that, isn't it? Are we just very lucky, or is there more to it than that? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 34 minutes ago, Hamilton Saint said: No injuries to the Saints' squad. Quite astounding that, isn't it? Are we just very lucky, or is there more to it than that? Isn’t Romeu injured now? Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Garrett Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 8 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Isn’t Romeu injured now? Precaution more than anything today I think. He’ll be fine Weds Link to post Share on other sites
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 17 hours ago, Hamilton Saint said: No injuries to the Saints' squad. Quite astounding that, isn't it? Are we just very lucky, or is there more to it than that? 5ml of unicorn blood per day. Link to post Share on other sites
Saint_clark Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 Hopefully partey doesn't make a miraculous recovery. Link to post Share on other sites
eelpie Posted 23 December, 2020 Share Posted 23 December, 2020 On 14/12/2020 at 15:56, Toadhall Saint said: 5ml of unicorn blood per day. On 14/12/2020 at 16:13, Saint_clark said: Hopefully partey doesn't make a miraculous recovery. On 13/12/2020 at 22:02, Hamilton Saint said: No injuries to the Saints' squad. Quite astounding that, isn't it? Are we just very lucky, or is there more to it than that? Ralph has mentioned Vestergard in today's Fulham briefing Link to post Share on other sites
Shroppie Posted 26 December, 2020 Share Posted 26 December, 2020 Ralph just said Vestergaard out fur 4 weeks, Redmond the same, not sure about Danny. Link to post Share on other sites
StrangelyBrown Posted 26 December, 2020 Share Posted 26 December, 2020 Djenepo on, long off and, Walcott up front and we've got a good chance of winning this. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2020 Share Posted 26 December, 2020 2 hours ago, Shroppie said: Ralph just said Vestergaard out fur 4 weeks, Redmond the same, not sure about Danny. Wouldn't have said it 6 months ago, but missing Vestergaard is a disaster. Not just for our defensive shape, but our attack....he is pivotal in spreading the play, we don't have anyone else who can do that. That automatically removes an enormous chunk out of our game. Could be a ropey January. Link to post Share on other sites
Harry_SFC Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) So we have a pretty extensive injury list at the moment. Just thought I'd summarise them here: Vestergaard - Knee injury. Return date - End of Jan. Redmond - Hamstring injury. Return date - 16th-24th Jan. Djenepo - Hamstring injury. Return date - Unknown but probably 4-6 weeks). Obafemi - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown but apparently quite serious. Salisu - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown. Romeu - Calf injury. Return date - 16th Jan. McCarthy - Covid. Return date - 16th Jan. Adams - Concussion. Return date - 9th Jan. Hopefully we'll have a few back for the Leicester game. It's a shame for Obafemi, thought a loan would be ideal for him. Edited January 4 by Harry_SFC 1 Link to post Share on other sites
S-Clarke Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I thought we'd see Salisu on the pitch against Shrewsbury, that seems unlikely now. I wonder if he'll go an entire season without a minute of reserve or first team football? Link to post Share on other sites
miserableoldgit Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 04/01/2021 at 23:40, S-Clarke said: I thought we'd see Salisu on the pitch against Shrewsbury, that seems unlikely now. I wonder if he'll go an entire season without a minute of reserve or first team football? Some random bloke on FB said that there was a rumour that Salisu was on his way out without playing a game....probably bowlux as Ralph described him not long ago as "the future of the club" didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 19 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said: Some random bloke on FB said that there was a rumour that Salisu was on his way out without playing a game....probably bowlux as Ralph described him not long ago as "the future of the club" didn't he? An excellent source Link to post Share on other sites
Give it to Ron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 It’s come from Nigerian website Real Valladolid enquired for loan been turned down Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: It’s come from Nigerian website Real Valladolid enquired for loan been turned down MLG is coming for you.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DT Posted Monday at 11:49 Share Posted Monday at 11:49 On 04/01/2021 at 23:34, Harry_SFC said: So we have a pretty extensive injury list at the moment. Just thought I'd summarise them here: Vestergaard - Knee injury. Return date - End of Jan. Redmond - Hamstring injury. Return date - 16th-24th Jan. Djenepo - Hamstring injury. Return date - Unknown but probably 4-6 weeks). Obafemi - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown but apparently quite serious. Salisu - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown. Romeu - Calf injury. Return date - 16th Jan. McCarthy - Covid. Return date - 16th Jan. Adams - Concussion. Return date - 9th Jan. Hopefully we'll have a few back for the Leicester game. It's a shame for Obafemi, thought a loan would be ideal for him. Anyone know how Vestergaard is getting on? Leicester were after him. Presume that's all off... Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted Monday at 12:15 Share Posted Monday at 12:15 25 minutes ago, DT said: Anyone know how Vestergaard is getting on? Leicester were after him. Presume that's all off... We will probably found out Thursday or whenever Ralph does his next press conference. Link to post Share on other sites
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