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2 hours ago, Shroppie said:

I think his "tight hamstring" seems to have made a miraculous recovery.

This. We've finally got a manager who's got the balls to play the 'big club' ruse of withdrawing a player who is "injured"

#probablyjustneededtorechargehisbatterries

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JWP withdraws from England squad ...........its a friendly and wont get picked ahead of a fit Henderson a dreadful Dier and nor be ahead of dream duo partnership Mount and Rice,couple that with would he get a start ahead of Sancho, Grealish and where down the pecking order does that make him in Southgates idea?.....England waste of time ,.....CLUB or COUNTRY?...............................

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with there being no internationals until March, you'd think thats the end of any chance JWP or Ings had of making the Euros squad gone. Personally think both should be there but Southgate has plenty of options at the bigger clubs. Ings is a far better all round striker than the likes of Abraham and Calvert-Lewin, but looks like they are currently ahead in the pecking order.

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1 hour ago, Saint_Tony said:

with there being no internationals until March, you'd think thats the end of any chance JWP or Ings had of making the Euros squad gone. Personally think both should be there but Southgate has plenty of options at the bigger clubs. Ings is a far better all round striker than the likes of Abraham and Calvert-Lewin, but looks like they are currently ahead in the pecking order.

By March, Southgate may be gone so no problem.

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3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

By March, Southgate may be gone so no problem.

What makes you think that?...........tactically hes got a solid foundation of players to make us strong but, hes still even now trying to place players who for thier clubs play out of position for his team ...Our National team that ,well lets face it never turn up when required to and live upto our as fans overbloated desires .

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6 hours ago, Weston Saint said:

Danny Ings - operation went well - now running - 4 weeks away from possible return

If that's from today we're back to the "worst case" of 6 weeks out rather than the 4 weeks looking likely earlier this week. Not sure this is good news, more what we were probably expecting.

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14 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

If that's from today we're back to the "worst case" of 6 weeks out rather than the 4 weeks looking likely earlier this week. Not sure this is good news, more what we were probably expecting.

That's what I was thinking. We're already 3 weeks since the injury, if it's another 4 weeks then he'll miss quite a few games. 4 weeks seems a long time if he's running already. 

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2 hours ago, JRM said:

That's what I was thinking. We're already 3 weeks since the injury, if it's another 4 weeks then he'll miss quite a few games. 4 weeks seems a long time if he's running already. 

Take it you have never had a knee operation? Even a routine one takes a bit of recovering from, let alone being back playing professional sport.

Partly physical, one thing running in a straight line, another entirely to twist and turn. Then also mentally to have full confidence in it.

If he is back playing by Boxing Day then thats a decent outcome, and nothing to suggest that won't be the case.

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31 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Take it you have never had a knee operation? Even a routine one takes a bit of recovering from, let alone being back playing professional sport.

Partly physical, one thing running in a straight line, another entirely to twist and turn. Then also mentally to have full confidence in it.

If he is back playing by Boxing Day then thats a decent outcome, and nothing to suggest that won't be the case.

You are completely missing the point. We were told 2-3 weeks ago he would likely be back in 4-6 weeks, it was all going well, he had had the op. Now Weston reports 4 weeks away from return. Suggests (not knowing when Weston got this information or when it was based on) that his return is at the long end of his predicted return or even longer, rather than the optimistic end of the interval. That's all. The implication from Weston was that it was good news (though he didn't say as much), but actually it is disappointing news based on the original estimates. 

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What I am saying is that these timelines are just estimates and this is real life, not a computer game. If he ends up being ready in 7 weeks overall then that is probably a good outcome for someone who has had serious injuries in the past.

I have had the exact operation that Ings had. Whilst its not a serious one, it still takes some proper rehab to recover from, let alone be back playing in a PL team. Certainly he is in good shape to recover well, but its not the type of thing you would rush back from too quickly when realistically an extra week makes little difference.

If it takes 7 weeks in the end but he is properly fit and his knee is good then I don't particularly see how that is disappointing, unless you expected him back in 4 weeks, which I personally did not.

 

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2 hours ago, Dusic said:

What I am saying is that these timelines are just estimates and this is real life, not a computer game. If he ends up being ready in 7 weeks overall then that is probably a good outcome for someone who has had serious injuries in the past.

I have had the exact operation that Ings had. Whilst its not a serious one, it still takes some proper rehab to recover from, let alone be back playing in a PL team. Certainly he is in good shape to recover well, but its not the type of thing you would rush back from too quickly when realistically an extra week makes little difference.

If it takes 7 weeks in the end but he is properly fit and his knee is good then I don't particularly see how that is disappointing, unless you expected him back in 4 weeks, which I personally did not.

 

Indeed. These things can't be rushed.

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2 hours ago, Dusic said:

What I am saying is that these timelines are just estimates and this is real life, not a computer game. If he ends up being ready in 7 weeks overall then that is probably a good outcome for someone who has had serious injuries in the past.

I have had the exact operation that Ings had. Whilst its not a serious one, it still takes some proper rehab to recover from, let alone be back playing in a PL team. Certainly he is in good shape to recover well, but its not the type of thing you would rush back from too quickly when realistically an extra week makes little difference.

If it takes 7 weeks in the end but he is properly fit and his knee is good then I don't particularly see how that is disappointing, unless you expected him back in 4 weeks, which I personally did not.

 

Oh dear. 🙄

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22 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Oh dear. 🙄

Not necessarily "Oh dear 🙄". If Theo keeps going as he is, we may not miss Danny quite as much as most people fear. The problem might then be how do we fit Danny and Theo into our side together with Redmond & Djenepo gnawing at the bit on the sidelines and Stuart Armstrong not about to roll over and disappear.

The future is bright, it's Red & White!

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5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Hasenhuttl said in his last press conference Ings will probably be back for the Brighton game.

 

2 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Appy said last week he's back for Brighton. Assuming bench.

Saints U23s play Man Utd Friday so should also give us a clue who'll be in the squad for Brighton.

On the bench perhaps in case Theo should tire in the second half (when Djenepo could swap sides) But too early to start I would think . I'm slightly worried about Ings returning too soon.

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On 14/12/2020 at 15:56, Toadhall Saint said:

5ml of unicorn blood per day.

 

On 14/12/2020 at 16:13, Saint_clark said:

Hopefully partey doesn't make a miraculous recovery. 

 

On 13/12/2020 at 22:02, Hamilton Saint said:

No injuries to the Saints' squad. Quite astounding that, isn't it? Are we just very lucky, or is there more to it than that?

Ralph has mentioned Vestergard in today's Fulham briefing

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2 hours ago, Shroppie said:

Ralph just said Vestergaard out fur 4 weeks, Redmond the same, not sure about Danny.

Wouldn't have said it 6 months ago, but missing Vestergaard is a disaster. Not just for our defensive shape, but our attack....he is pivotal in spreading the play, we don't have anyone else who can do that. That automatically removes an enormous chunk out of our game.

Could be a ropey January.

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So we have a pretty extensive injury list at the moment. Just thought I'd summarise them here:

Vestergaard - Knee injury. Return date - End of Jan.

Redmond - Hamstring injury. Return date - 16th-24th Jan.

Djenepo - Hamstring injury. Return date - Unknown but probably 4-6 weeks).

Obafemi - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown but apparently quite serious.

Salisu - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown.

Romeu - Calf injury. Return date - 16th Jan.

McCarthy - Covid. Return date - 16th Jan.

Adams - Concussion. Return date - 9th Jan. 

Hopefully we'll have a few back for the Leicester game. It's a shame for Obafemi, thought a loan would be ideal for him. 

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On 04/01/2021 at 23:40, S-Clarke said:

I thought we'd see Salisu on the pitch against Shrewsbury, that seems unlikely now. I wonder if he'll go an entire season without a minute of reserve or first team football?

Some random bloke on FB said that there was a rumour that Salisu was on his way out without playing a game....probably bowlux as Ralph described him not long ago as "the future of the club" didn't he?

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19 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

Some random bloke on FB said that there was a rumour that Salisu was on his way out without playing a game....probably bowlux as Ralph described him not long ago as "the future of the club" didn't he?

An excellent source ;) 

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On 04/01/2021 at 23:34, Harry_SFC said:

So we have a pretty extensive injury list at the moment. Just thought I'd summarise them here:

Vestergaard - Knee injury. Return date - End of Jan.

Redmond - Hamstring injury. Return date - 16th-24th Jan.

Djenepo - Hamstring injury. Return date - Unknown but probably 4-6 weeks).

Obafemi - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown but apparently quite serious.

Salisu - Muscle injury. Return date - Unknown.

Romeu - Calf injury. Return date - 16th Jan.

McCarthy - Covid. Return date - 16th Jan.

Adams - Concussion. Return date - 9th Jan. 

Hopefully we'll have a few back for the Leicester game. It's a shame for Obafemi, thought a loan would be ideal for him. 

Anyone know how Vestergaard is getting on? Leicester were after him. Presume that's all off...

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