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All the stuff in newspapers has been put there by Saints, all made up.

 

Lemina only has the hump because he is being publically forced out the door.

 

Does the club run his official twitter account as well? Be amazed if that’s in his contract...

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Galatasaray loan

 

 

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Champions League club, probably with enough money to buy him if he goes well - not the worst deal in the world.

 

Wish the midfield options we're left with weren't so threadbare, though.

 

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Have to feel that overall the only winners would be Galatasaray rather than Lemina and certainly not Saints.

 

Shame its ended like this, as talent wise he should be a starter in our team rather than loaned out for little financial benefit.

 

This scenario a year ago would have been laughed at. Shows how quickly things change in football.

 

I agree. I remember his debut at Palace and then compare it to his display at West Ham at the end of last season.Something went very wrong.

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I don’t really understand his logic here- because surely he cannot expect to be in the shop window for the bigger clubs by plying his trade in Turkey as opposed to us?!?! I rate him that much that I think he would get a good amount of minutes here- and tbh even if PEH is captain I think a Lemina at his best is better than the PEH equivalent.

 

If he went Roma or any other top club within the top 4/5 leagues, fair enough.

 

I can only think that with 2 years left on his contract next summer he will think it will be easier to leave- well it doesn’t matter what happens but I would like to think we would still want at least £18m next summer (which I still think is cheap), and clearly that valuation was still not met by anyone else this summer.

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I don’t really understand his logic here- because surely he cannot expect to be in the shop window for the bigger clubs by plying his trade in Turkey as opposed to us?!?! I rate him that much that I think he would get a good amount of minutes here- and tbh even if PEH is captain I think a Lemina at his best is better than the PEH equivalent.

 

If he went Roma or any other top club within the top 4/5 leagues, fair enough.

 

I can only think that with 2 years left on his contract next summer he will think it will be easier to leave- well it doesn’t matter what happens but I would like to think we would still want at least £18m next summer (which I still think is cheap), and clearly that valuation was still not met by anyone else this summer.

 

Do well in the Champions League and that will be good exposure for him. Seems to have proper thrown his toys out of the pram with us...he barely put any effort in even when he DID want to play for us. Never forgave him for that horrendous display in the semi-final against Chelsea.

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Of all the players potentially going out on loan or being sold (!!!!!), Boufal was my number 1 to be "rehabilitated" and Lemina was number 2. Boufal seems to be doing OK so far, and maybe if no one takes him, Lemina can be reintegrated. Bit of humble pie, and the merest bit of egg on face, and that's about it. No bridges burned. Not hugely complicated and all will be forgotten in a week or two, esp if he puts in a shift. So if he's still here, its not a disaster.

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Do well in the Champions League and that will be good exposure for him. Seems to have proper thrown his toys out of the pram with us...he barely put any effort in even when he DID want to play for us. Never forgave him for that horrendous display in the semi-final against Chelsea.

 

In a group with PSG and Real Madrid, good luck to him :lol: (even if both has some internal turmoil)

 

Of all the players potentially going out on loan or being sold (!!!!!), Boufal was my number 1 to be "rehabilitated" and Lemina was number 2. Boufal seems to be doing OK so far, and maybe if no one takes him, Lemina can be reintegrated. Bit of humble pie, and the merest bit of egg on face, and that's about it. No bridges burned. Not hugely complicated and all will be forgotten in a week or two, esp if he puts in a shift. So if he's still here, its not a disaster.

 

Yeah pretty much this too- he is good friends with Ings and Valery based off Instagram

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In a group with PSG and Real Madrid, good luck to him :lol: (even if both has some internal turmoil)

 

 

 

Yeah pretty much this too- he is good friends with Ings and Valery based off Instagram

 

Oh I agree, but the guy clearly has a hugely inflated opinion of himself so thinks he'll go there, dominate the games against PSG and Real and then be top of their shopping lists for the summer.

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Not often I feel there's a lose-lose-lose situation but this is probably it. By all accounts Ralph appears a very reasonable man so can only assume Lemina could not be persuaded to stay.

 

Galatasary likely gainers if he tries to prove himself on Champions league stage...but then, he's still a Saints player so even if he is outstanding we'll make him unaffordable for them.

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We have supposedly priced him out of the moves he wanted, so suspect if he does go to Turkey it's simply to play football, not to help us.

 

Feel we've played this one poorly, some lessons learned I hope

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We have supposedly priced him out of the moves he wanted, so suspect if he does go to Turkey it's simply to play football, not to help us.

 

Feel we've played this one poorly, some lessons learned I hope

 

Poor effort

 

 

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If players accept high wages after a high transfer, then they have to accept that we want to recoup some of it, so stow the "priced him out of a move" bollix please.

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If players accept high wages after a high transfer, then they have to accept that we want to recoup some of it, so stow the "priced him out of a move" bollix please.

 

He is having a bad day and trying too hard.

Agree totally if we had let him go cheaply he would have been first one to complain where does it say we should let him go and not get a good deal for us?

Lemina is a good player but lacks the personality and brain to make the most of that ability as proven by his past.

Good luck to him no malice just a shame as when he wanted to he was very good

 

 

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Do well in the Champions League and that will be good exposure for him. Seems to have proper thrown his toys out of the pram with us...he barely put any effort in even when he DID want to play for us. Never forgave him for that horrendous display in the semi-final against Chelsea.

 

This, with bells on.

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25,000 Cim Bom fans turned up at Istanbul airport to welcome Falcao. Not sure how many Mario got!

 

Still, swapping the Woolston Ferry for the Bosphorus...

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20:50

LEMINA LOANED TO GALA

 

Southampton midfielder Mario Lemina has joined Galatasaray on a one-year loan deal for an initial fee of €1m.

 

The Turkish champions also have the option to buy the player next summer for €16m.

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If he couldn't get premier League was always going to be a club in the champions League, though he wanted to stay in premier League. That didn't happen as clubs wouldn't pay (high) loan fee and/or commitment to buy at and of season. Personally terms were agreed with one but clubs couldn't agree.

Europe was always the backup, lots of interest, but wanted CL football and gala covering wages. Not a commitment to buy, but he's a talented footballer so here's hoping he shines.

 

Personally wanted another season out of him, but premier league clubs turned his head and then there was no turning back. Saints allowed him to talk to others, couldn't agree fees, and then he was off the Ralph train.

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£20m on a 4 year contract, and we loan him out for €1m with a €16m option. Fine if they take the option, but pretty p1ss poor if they don't. One would hope that we aren't paying any of his wages.

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Hope he does well, gets a few goals and a bag full of assists under his belt now they’ve gone and signed Falcao. Would snap your hand off for £16m back.

 

He obviously doesn’t want to be here, he wants and thinks he’s good enough for the Champions League.

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Certainly one who let the door bang on his backside on the way out. Surprised he didn’t get a kick in the pants from Hughes at Wolves when he took about 10 minutes to change his boots mid game.

Promised much, tempted us with the odd fancy - but overall ran his blueprint of doing pretty much bugger all and pocketing a wage. I guess the premier league was a bit too much like hard work for him.

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Certainly one who let the door bang on his backside on the way out. Surprised he didn’t get a kick in the pants from Hughes at Wolves when he took about 10 minutes to change his boots mid game.

Promised much, tempted us with the odd fancy - but overall ran his blueprint of doing pretty much bugger all and pocketing a wage. I guess the premier league was a bit too much like hard work for him.

 

This. Good riddance to the arrogant tw*t.

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Personally, I didn't want him to play for us again after his showing against Chelsea in the FA cup semi final.

 

You're the second person I've seen now make a similar comment.

 

I didn't get to watch that game, so how bad was he?

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You're the second person I've seen now make a similar comment.

 

I didn't get to watch that game, so how bad was he?

 

He was awful, never have I seen a player put such little effort into a game (possibly only rivalled by Austin v Fulham away last season)

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He was awful, never have I seen a player put such little effort into a game (possibly only rivalled by Austin v Fulham away last season)

 

This, and on a big stage totally anonymous

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This, and on a big stage totally anonymous

 

It was this game that made me realise that Lemina was a head-case; the opportunity to show off his wares against a really big club, at an iconic stadium and he just couldn't be arsed. Great way to put yourself in the shop window for a top club to take notice, Mario!

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What sticks in my mind was when he was attacking our end, and he had fluffed it, he was wandering about behind Chelsea's goal line, while Chelsea were on the break and attacking us. He clearly couldn't give 2 hoots about getting back and helping out. Give me someone like Romeu or Yoshida any day of the week.

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For all the rights and wrongs of Leminas performances and transfer, it does now seem very odd that we let Reed go out on loan given our lack of strength in depth in midfield.

 

If Smallbone or Slattery we're thought highly enough of to be better back-up options than Reed, stranger still that neither featured in the Fulham squad, especially with PEH playing left back!

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For all the rights and wrongs of Leminas performances and transfer, it does now seem very odd that we let Reed go out on loan given our lack of strength in depth in midfield.

 

If Smallbone or Slattery we're thought highly enough of to be better back-up options than Reed, stranger still that neither featured in the Fulham squad, especially with PEH playing left back!

 

This would be the same Reed that’s made one start for Fulham?

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Hardly the type of loan that will put him in the shop window if he does well - that said, Turkish football is slightly better than Scottish football (see Forster and Moi) :lol:

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This would be the same Reed that’s made one start for Fulham?

 

Well, yes, kind of supporting the point that championship Fulham appear to have better midfield squad depth than we do. It is a bit of a worry ...

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There's a very good player in there somewhere, unfortunately he just never came out very often. I was at Wembley so understand the vitriol, but I was also at West Brom where the other Mario showed up.... ah well.

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Does this mean I no longer have to have #TonicLikeLeminade shoehorned into my psyche?

 

 

Tonic isn't really like Lemonade though is it? Even in both contexts of the word "tonic", this slogan is a bit cr*p and doesn't really make sense or work on any level I can deduce. Stick to playing football and learning the benefits of humility.

 

I used to really like Lemina. He started with a seemingly good attitude from afar. Not sure the catalyst and where it all went wrong.

 

Another talented player blinded by the overwhelming urge to fast track his way to wealth and status without putting a shift in (eh Lovren? The King of self grandeur, ego and deluded sense of self worth. The worst player I have witnessed in terms of attitude over the last decade of world football). I appreciate many players have got away with little effort for large reward but surely it gives a better sense of satisfaction achieving success through sheer hard work and determination but I am judging him with my own standards which is my main mistake. Lemina is better off putting the effort in as many other footballers more successfully manage. It's still a pretty charmed life but that lazy and arrogant mindset which plagues so many footballers of undoubted talent ruins the modern game for me in a sense and that preoccupation with materialism has hamstrung his ability to leap like to higher peaks.

 

I remember Saints had similar issues in the dressing room around the time of Carlton Palmer's arrival when CP and another senior commented and condemned the dressing room for the excessive focus on money and materialism rather than football. He'd never experienced a dressing room like it. Tedious conversations and an endemic preponderance for status and players with a sense of entitlement and the complete lack of sporting hunger and drive for success. We needed that Northern attitude at the time; much less materialism (as is common place on the South Coast and Southampton), and much more drive and determination with a sense of teamwork. Luckily, we have Ralph who is clearly a great man manager very much focused on the psychological as well as tactical side of the game which is half the battle in the modern game.

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Well, yes, kind of supporting the point that championship Fulham appear to have better midfield squad depth than we do. It is a bit of a worry ...

 

Of course, completely supports that view. In much the same way as Jack Rose not playing for Walsall means they have better goalkeeping options than Saints.

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Of course, completely supports that view. In much the same way as Jack Rose not playing for Walsall means they have better goalkeeping options than Saints.

 

Now you're just being a tool, as you probably know.

 

Aside from the fact he was only ever bought to support the u21 team, if he was here Rose would be (at best) 4th choice. He has played 9 league 2 games in his career, and none for 3 seasons. Reed has 102 appearances, 17 in the premier league, the rest in the championship, 72 in the last two seasons. Plus 16 England youth caps. You're talking about a non entity, I'm talking about a viable option.

 

The obvious issue is that in a months time when romeu picks up his 5th booking and PEH gets sent off in the same game, we start the next match with a midfield of...???

 

We are extremely thin on the ground in midfield, yes, probably thinner than Fulham. We're ok for goalkeepers, though. Probably better than walsall.

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20:50

LEMINA LOANED TO GALA

 

Southampton midfielder Mario Lemina has joined Galatasaray on a one-year loan deal for an initial fee of €1m.

 

The Turkish champions also have the option to buy the player next summer for €16m.

 

Historically he tends to feature on average about 25 times a season for his club, So with Galatasary having Turkish league and cup, plus at least 6 champions league games this season he should make about 50% of their games. Will this be enough to convince them to shell out €16m. Unlikely...

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For all the rights and wrongs of Leminas performances and transfer, it does now seem very odd that we let Reed go out on loan given our lack of strength in depth in midfield.

 

If Smallbone or Slattery we're thought highly enough of to be better back-up options than Reed, stranger still that neither featured in the Fulham squad, especially with PEH playing left back!

 

Yes. At some point this season we will end up fielding a central midfield of Stephens and JWP, or something equally horrific.

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