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Just now, Wimborne_saint said:

 

Would be happy with £8m to get him off the wage bill..

 

Not bad at all considering he only has a year left on his contract. Pleasantly surprised.....

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Nobody is going to be giving us £8m for a player that has one year on his contract and we have no desire to keep. We would have ended up loaning him out if we had to.

Any fee is a bonus but no chance it will be £8m, as proven by Crook reporting it.

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1 minute ago, Dusic said:

Nobody is going to be giving us £8m for a player that has one year on his contract and we have no desire to keep. We would have ended up loaning him out if we had to.

Any fee is a bonus but no chance it will be £8m, as proven by Crook reporting it.

It's probably a package which 'could', but is incredibly unlikely to reach those levels. 

4-5m is prob what we can expect staged over two payments I reckon. And that alone is a bonus as I thought we'd end up loaning him.

So...#unsellables wise....we have sold Hoedt (kind of), Lemina (almost), Carillo (Given away), Boufal (given away). Not sure if I've missed any, but that's some decent wedge off the wage bill over the last year or so - just a shame about the £50m+ loss we've had to make in the process. Cheers Les.

Just Elyonoussi from that group....but I think he's going to be given a first team chance.

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Just now, Sir Ralph said:

Not bad at all considering he only has a year left on his contract. Pleasantly surprised.....

It's all in the detail. £8m package, not £8m fee. Could be anything - £2m towards his final year wages which we pay and £2m fee + £4m in unachievable add ons, for example. 

Regardless, I'll be glad to see the back of him. One of the biggest ego's we've ever signed. 

 

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6 minutes ago, egg said:

It's all in the detail. £8m package, not £8m fee. Could be anything - £2m towards his final year wages which we pay and £2m fee + £4m in unachievable add ons, for example. 

Regardless, I'll be glad to see the back of him. One of the biggest ego's we've ever signed. 

 

Yes I’m aware the £8m isn’t up front but still if we have the chance of “recouping” £8m I still think that’s pretty decent business considering the flop he has been for us. I think his season at Fulham has helped us get a much better overall deal.
 

Alternatively lemina could have dug his heals in and said he would run his contract down. We might have got £1.5 million (plus wage cover) for one year loan before the end of his contract. considering we think Williams is too expensive at £2m the £1.5m may even have been optimistic.

hence the conclusion that the overall deal doesn’t sound bad on the face of it

also a massive ego and pleased to say goodbye to him and his Instagram account

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Great player when he can be bothered but always got the impression he liked the footballer lifestyle much more than being a footballer. Best off we get rid, good move for him, he’ll loving living in nice and being able to go down to Monaco at weekend, good we got a fee for him too. Another one down. If we can get shot of one of our two crap keepers that’s a pretty good window in terms of shifting the deadwood.

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Jeez, if he’s not part of the plans, get rid. Did we not turn down a bid years ago because we thought he was worth more? Ended up costing us a shed load more if so. Are we going to do the same thing again? Hopefully Crocker and Steele can match football and finance needs. 

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1 minute ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

Jeez, if he’s not part of the plans, get rid. Did we not turn down a bid years ago because we thought he was worth more? Ended up costing us a shed load more if so. Are we going to do the same thing again? Hopefully Crocker and Steele can match football and finance needs. 

It's amazing that the club does some good, hard-nosed negotiating to get a bigger fee and people think that's a bad thing

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24 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

Jeez, if he’s not part of the plans, get rid. Did we not turn down a bid years ago because we thought he was worth more? Ended up costing us a shed load more if so. Are we going to do the same thing again? Hopefully Crocker and Steele can match football and finance needs. 

Yes we dId, we also turned down a bid for Carrillo at the same time as we tried to make a profit! Mental at the time and mental in hindsight. 

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38 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

It's probably a package which 'could', but is incredibly unlikely to reach those levels. 

4-5m is prob what we can expect staged over two payments I reckon. And that alone is a bonus as I thought we'd end up loaning him.

So...#unsellables wise....we have sold Hoedt (kind of), Lemina (almost), Carillo (Given away), Boufal (given away). Not sure if I've missed any, but that's some decent wedge off the wage bill over the last year or so - just a shame about the £50m+ loss we've had to make in the process. Cheers Les.

Just Elyonoussi from that group....but I think he's going to be given a first team chance.

He’s involved with the team, but FF gets an official #UnSellable hashtag from me.

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36 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

It's amazing that the club does some good, hard-nosed negotiating to get a bigger fee and people think that's a bad thing

Did it work? Nope. If it works, great. If not, not so much. Sometimes hard-nosed isn’t always so clever and doesn’t always work. If we had sold Lemina 2 years ago for 10 million, that have would surely have been better than a possible £8m after we’ve paid a proportion of his wages over the last few years and not been able to invest. Sometimes understanding the true and not imagined value of a player allows progress. 

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11 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

Did it work? Nope. If it works, great. If not, not so much. Sometimes hard-nosed isn’t always so clever and doesn’t always work. If we had sold Lemina 2 years ago for 10 million, that have would surely have been better than a possible £8m after we’ve paid a proportion of his wages over the last few years and not been able to invest. Sometimes understanding the true and not imagined value of a player allows progress. 

I can't remember the thing 2 years ago but let's just wait a few weeks before we judge whether we bargained too hard on him this summer

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Southampton’s Mario Lemina is set to move to Nice after the two clubs agreed a fee of €5.5 million including bonuses for the 27-year-old midfielder.

 

Lemina joined Southampton in 2017 for just over £15 million and went on to play 52 times for the Premier League side.

 

Southampton had hoped to sell the former Juventus player for £8 million this summer, but in the end settled for less, with less than a year remaining on the player’s contract.

Was there interest from elsewhere?

Lemina had attracted Premier League interest from both Watford and Newcastle but will end his spell at St Mary’s with a switch to Ligue 1.

Why are Southampton letting him go?

Even though it was always expected he’d leave this summer, Lemina has impressed Ralph Hasenhuttl with his work ethic and commitment during the first two weeks of pre-season.

 

However, he has less than a year remaining on his Southampton contract after joining for over £15 million in August 2017.

 

The central midfielder spent last season on loan at Fulham and would have signed for them permanently had they avoided relegation to the Championship.

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9 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

He’s involved with the team, but FF gets an official #UnSellable hashtag from me.

Yep, hopefully the low contract renewal offer forces a move to Celtic and another Sanatogen special from Les gone. Still Ely, Long, Vesty and more recently Djenepo (post Les) and McCarthy to go. Bednarek and Redmond based on last season as well. Tbh bar the new Lb and fringe players like Tella, only established players good enough to wear an SFC jersey are KWP, Rom, JWP, Theo, Adams and Ings. Diallo and Salisu show the potential to do so.

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I like a lad with a bit of character and Mario seems to be quite the lad. Love that perma-smile. We need more of these and less creased brows and solemn stares this season.

I would love see a fairy tale ending to this saga with the lad suddenly coming good for Saints and becoming an outstanding midfielder.

Nice would be the best solution all round if he does leave, we have good relations with them and for Mario (arguably) Nice will be a somewhat more exciting place than Portswood or Shirley to shop in and go clubbing.

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1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said:

I like a lad with a bit of character and Mario seems to be quite the lad. Love that perma-smile. We need more of these and less creased brows and solemn stares this season.

I would love see a fairy tale ending to this saga with the lad suddenly coming good for Saints and becoming an outstanding midfielder.

 

I assume you're taking the piss. The guy has bled the club dry over the last few years (not directly his fault he got the contract he got), he's downed tools, especially in the semi final of the cup, which is one of the most pathetic displays I've seen from a footballer.

Unfortunately he's more interested in likes on instagram, and his brand, than actually playing football.  It's highly likely he will never change. 

He's averaged about 20 games played per season in his career, that's nowhere near enough of an impact given his talent.  It's between his ears is the problem, does not have the drive, ambition or desire to be a decent premier league footballer.

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Glad he's gone at last, waste of talent.

Feel sorry for Schneiderlin who'll probably end up having to cover for him whenever Lem isn't in the mood for it.

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Shame he had such a shit attitude. Think he could've been a fantastic player.

Glad he's gone though.

Presumably we'll see a new signing pretty soon.

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  • Lighthouse changed the title to Mario Lemina - Official: Signs for Nice

He is the one Reed/Wilson signing that I can see the sense of where he did have the attributes to kick on and be sold for £40-50m. He just doesn’t have the staying power oppress level of focus for the PL, did ok for Fulham but not the level to move to bigger things, should do OK again in Ligue One. Hoedt - free transfer and Lazio fringe player for £17m was lunatic territory by comparison and Carrillo rationale had all the business sense of George Best on an all dayer. Gunn - who knows what they were thinking of? 

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3 hours ago, Badger said:

Glad he's gone at last, waste of talent.

Feel sorry for Schneiderlin who'll probably end up having to cover for him whenever Lem isn't in the mood for it.

i agree he was a very poor player for us when he had talent to spare.

Schneiderlin might have regretted leaving us when he did as well. Pity because he was nexcellent for us.

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12 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

He is the one Reed/Wilson signing that I can see the sense of where he did have the attributes to kick on and be sold for £40-50m. He just doesn’t have the staying power oppress level of focus for the PL, did ok for Fulham but not the level to move to bigger things, should do OK again in Ligue One. Hoedt - free transfer and Lazio fringe player for £17m was lunatic territory by comparison and Carrillo rationale had all the business sense of George Best on an all dayer. Gunn - who knows what they were thinking of? 

While I can understand being interested from a talent perspective, you’d think there would have been red flags if there was background research done. I can’t believe his attitude just developed at his time here.

was reminding myself of the timeline of transfers. That Pellegrino time was something special, hoedt, lemina and Carrillo, what value we got from that.

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1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Nice touch that from Mario. Dissapointed he's departed. I was hoping that he could have been another strong option in midfield next season. Good luck Mario :)

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1 hour ago, Baird of the land said:

While I can understand being interested from a talent perspective, you’d think there would have been red flags if there was background research done. I can’t believe his attitude just developed at his time here.

was reminding myself of the timeline of transfers. That Pellegrino time was something special, hoedt, lemina and Carrillo, what value we got from that.

I think this sort of psychological profiling is really important but I'm wondering actually, how do you go about finding out if a player is a tosser?

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29 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

I think this sort of psychological profiling is really important but I'm wondering actually, how do you go about finding out if a player is a tosser?

Speak to previous managers/coaches/ex-teammates.

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10 hours ago, davefizzy14 said:

Nice touch that from Mario. Dissapointed he's departed. I was hoping that he could have been another strong option in midfield next season. Good luck Mario :)

Hi mate, really not having a dig at you but genuinely interested, how can you feel any warmth towards him ? He took the piss out of the club,  not just with 90% of his pathetic performances on the pitch, but perhaps even worse than that, didnt he mock us on social media ( I dont follow it avidly so maybe Im wrong) when Charlie Austin was leaving ? 

For me this is one player who doesnt deserve a fond farewell.  A complete pisstaker on many levels, but like I say maybe Ive missed something. 

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35 minutes ago, Hawkswood said:

Hi mate, really not having a dig at you but genuinely interested, how can you feel any warmth towards him ? He took the piss out of the club,  not just with 90% of his pathetic performances on the pitch, but perhaps even worse than that, didnt he mock us on social media ( I dont follow it avidly so maybe Im wrong) when Charlie Austin was leaving ? 

For me this is one player who doesnt deserve a fond farewell.  A complete pisstaker on many levels, but like I say maybe Ive missed something. 

No you haven't missed something.

He was and is a bell end of the highest order who showed no respect to the club who paid big bucks for him. He uses social media to air his petty gripes and to show off his wealth. 

Glad to see the back of him. 

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1 hour ago, Saint Billy said:

No you haven't missed something.

He was and is a bell end of the highest order who showed no respect to the club who paid big bucks for him. He uses social media to air his petty gripes and to show off his wealth. 

Glad to see the back of him. 

That non performance at Wembley will stick with me for a long time.

Glad I won’t have to watch that clown in the Prem again he will disappear to some lower league French team a complete waste of his talent and he has some.

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12 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

I think this sort of psychological profiling is really important but I'm wondering actually, how do you go about finding out if a player is a tosser?

Look at their Instagram account

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23 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Still nothing from Saints on social media, I wonder if we’ll just never announce anything like we did with Safri.

We sold Safri!? I thought he was working his way back to full fitness :(

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11 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

That non performance at Wembley will stick with me for a long time.

Glad I won’t have to watch that clown in the Prem again he will disappear to some lower league French team a complete waste of his talent and he has some.

That's the one, no idea what was happening behind the scenes but he just wasn't interested that day, considering it was a landmark game at Wembley you'd have thought it would be one that would appeal to him. 

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8 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

I was genuinely surprised to read that he played for us 52 times. Really? He must have been pretty anonymous in about 48 of those.

I think that included training sessions.

We didnt want to put prospective buyers off.

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46 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Hoorah - no more midfielder threads with some loon posting what a mega star the wastrel could still be for us.

He'll have a couple of decent games for Nice and this thread will be full of we should have given him another chance/sold him to cheap posts instead.

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On 24/07/2021 at 17:32, Lighthouse said:

Still nothing from Saints on social media, I wonder if we’ll just never announce anything like we did with Safri.

Nice and Lemina announced this two days ago. Starting to think I might be right.

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