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Seems Ralph won't be letting him go any time soon. Big player for Southampton. Let's face it right now what Ralph wants Ralph will get. He was less supportive of Manolo at his presser.

 

Yep, he was pretty adamant that he wants to keep Mario. Called him one of his best players. Gabbi he glazed over with a general "we'll see what happens with a number of players moving forward" comment.

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He's all fart and no **** imo, hasn't really protected the defence or helped supply the attacking players this season imo. All this "he's our best player" stuff is a long way off .

 

his ability to take on and go past players in the midfield with body swerves, pirouettes and clever tricks opens up space for him to run into and commit other players who would normally mark redmond, ings etc.

 

he is constantly looking to go forward so is the perfect player to play the same role that Naby Keita had at Red Bull

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He's all fart and no **** imo, hasn't really protected the defence or helped supply the attacking players this season imo. All this "he's our best player" stuff is a long way off .

 

:mcinnes: :mcinnes: by far our best player

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With the right manager Mario's a class act and I think Ralph is the right manager. Expecting much bigger things from Mario for the remainder of the season and a likely transfer this summer. He's a general if coached properly.

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Tremendous signing.

 

If fit, he would walk straight into our midfield. He’s totally lost his way mentally but on his day, he is a class act. Shame as we could have done with him back. He could have made all the difference, combined with a CB and full back in January.

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Reading between the lines seems that Galatasaray are rubbing their hands together at Leminas injury and a perfect excuse to get him out of their club. They have obviously found him out to be a total waste of talent - everyone use to joke about Mane going on a winter performance sojourn when with us - Lemina if you look at his record has made it a career trait everywhere he has been. Those still holding a candle to him to be the saviour of our midfield forget it - the bloke has no spine for a fight - anyone who witnessed the 10 minutes he took to change his football boots mid way through the game up at Wolves will have spotted that the bloke is a total wastrel.

Sorry the bloke is as useless a signing as Carillo.

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Reading between the lines seems that Galatasaray are rubbing their hands together at Leminas injury and a perfect excuse to get him out of their club. They have obviously found him out to be a total waste of talent - everyone use to joke about Mane going on a winter performance sojourn when with us - Lemina if you look at his record has made it a career trait everywhere he has been. Those still holding a candle to him to be the saviour of our midfield forget it - the bloke has no spine for a fight - anyone who witnessed the 10 minutes he took to change his football boots mid way through the game up at Wolves will have spotted that the bloke is a total wastrel.

Sorry the bloke is as useless a signing as Carillo.

 

He is the new Carlos Kaiser.

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That article is hilarious. Such blatant click bait.

 

It says he has a knee ligament injury, and then says getting him back could be a blessing in disguise as he can make a difference to the first team.

 

I know we're bad, but a lazy injured midfielder with no knee ligaments that can't run (and can barely control or pass the football lets be honest) is not the answer :lol: :mcinnes:

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Take what we can and get him out. Wages like that are holding us back a lot.

 

We need to do better in our character assessments that's for sure. Reminds me of Osvaldo, although maybe not quite as bad. Both talented players with big club experience but just no where near enough interest in football, and egos destroying their careers.

 

Lemina with discipline and any fitness would be a Champions League level midfielder. Instead I doubt he'll ever do much in the game now, just a poundland Pogba.

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Take what we can and get him out. Wages like that are holding us back a lot.

 

We need to do better in our character assessments that's for sure. Reminds me of Osvaldo, although maybe not quite as bad. Both talented players with big club experience but just no where near enough interest in football, and egos destroying their careers.

 

Lemina with discipline and any fitness would be a Champions League level midfielder. Instead I doubt he'll ever do much in the game now, just a poundland Pogba.

 

Agreed. Lemina represents the wave of recent Saints signings who saw us as a stepping stone after a season or two, but who forgot they actually needed to be good in order to get the move.

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Take what we can and get him out. Wages like that are holding us back a lot.

 

We need to do better in our character assessments that's for sure. Reminds me of Osvaldo, although maybe not quite as bad. Both talented players with big club experience but just no where near enough interest in football, and egos destroying their careers.

 

Lemina with discipline and any fitness would be a Champions League level midfielder. Instead I doubt he'll ever do much in the game now, just a poundland Pogba.

Agree with all of that. In patches he's looked brilliant, and could have been a massive player for us. Instead he was a helmet, and that performance in the fa cup semi was spectacularly bad.

 

Bin him off and move on.

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According to Transfermrkt, he cost us £15.53m. IIRC it was a 4 year contract, so he has 18 months left. I'd take €8m, as not looking to make a profit, just shift on a signing that hasn't worked out.

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Agree with all of that. In patches he's looked brilliant, and could have been a massive player for us. Instead he was a helmet, and that performance in the fa cup semi was spectacularly bad.

 

Bin him off and move on.

 

Sure, Lemina is a bit flashy, but the comparison with a violent nutter like Osvaldo is way off.

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Anyone following him on Twitter will know that he doesn't appear to have any self-belief or confidence issues!

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Sure, Lemina is a bit flashy, but the comparison with a violent nutter like Osvaldo is way off.

 

The Osvaldo comparison was based on his application and ego. I'm not sure anyone has suggested he's a nutter.

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I find it hard to believe anyone would doubt his skill and ability, he's got bags of it. He's pocketed Pogba every time he's faced him, and only one of them looked like a £90mil midfielder and he wasn't wearing a United shirt. He's had some absolutely superb games where he's looked a class above us. But clearly, mentality and desire is a big issue and as a result it doesn't look like we'll ever get anything more out of him. Real shame, but don't think we could've done much more.

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The Osvaldo comparison was based on his application and ego. I'm not sure anyone has suggested he's a nutter.

 

Of course, because the most salient fact about Osvaldo's time here was his egotism. Got it. Lemina had some great games for us and some shoddy ones, and overall didn't play enough because of constant injury. I can't help but conclude that a lot of the opprobrium aimed at him has more to do with non-footballing factors.

 

If unforgivably bad games were the main criteria, the guardians of moral sensibility on this forum would already have torn Shane Long limb from limb.

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I find it hard to believe anyone would doubt his skill and ability, he's got bags of it. He's pocketed Pogba every time he's faced him, and only one of them looked like a £90mil midfielder and he wasn't wearing a United shirt. He's had some absolutely superb games where he's looked a class above us. But clearly, mentality and desire is a big issue and as a result it doesn't look like we'll ever get anything more out of him. Real shame, but don't think we could've done much more.

 

Yeah 100% agree with that. You can't deny his technical ability, he's got it all.

 

But as you said, his desire and application to professional football is why he has never made it and probably why he won't ever make it. He may say differently when he looks in his bank, but I still think a player with his talent should have achieved more in his career. A bit of a wasted career really.

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Of course, because the most salient fact about Osvaldo's time here was his egotism. Got it. Lemina had some great games for us and some shoddy ones, and overall didn't play enough because of constant injury. I can't help but conclude that a lot of the opprobrium aimed at him has more to do with non-footballing factors.

 

If unforgivably bad games were the main criteria, the guardians of moral sensibility on this forum would already have torn Shane Long limb from limb.

 

I think you misunderstand. Osvaldo was a nutter. Lemina isn't. Both are/were talented and had moments of brilliance, but both lacked application and are/were ego driven.

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It's funny how many assumptions people can make from Instagram photos.

 

I guess a picture DOES tell a thousand words.

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It's funny how many assumptions people can make from Instagram photos.

 

I guess a picture DOES tell a thousand words.

Behave. You only have to see the bloke on the pitch to see that he has all the talent in the world but more often than not can't be arsed. Whether that is down to ego or something else is another matter, but his "look at me" insta is all about ego.

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Behave. You only have to see the bloke on the pitch to see that he has all the talent in the world but more often than not can't be arsed. Whether that is down to ego or something else is another matter, but his "look at me" insta is all about ego.

 

No difference between Lemina and Ings Instagram. Maybe Ings has more shirtless selfies.

 

If his Instagram helps you justify your agenda against him then great. But his Instagram is no more indulgent than Ings or tons of other football players

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No difference between Lemina and Ings Instagram. Maybe Ings has more shirtless selfies.

 

If his Instagram helps you justify your agenda against him then great. But his Instagram is no more indulgent than Ings or tons of other football players

 

"Agenda". Behave. If you ever got to a saints game pal you'd have seen a player who made little or no effort more often than not. My opinion on him is based primarily on that, and the obvious fact that he's wasting a huge talent. Do you disagree with that also?

 

The insta thing is very much secondary, but the fact that he comes across as an ego driven helmet doesn't improve my opinion of him.

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According to Transfermrkt, he cost us £15.53m. IIRC it was a 4 year contract, so he has 18 months left. I'd take €8m, as not looking to make a profit, just shift on a signing that hasn't worked out.

 

Can also include other clauses if they do well and a decent sell on percent when he inevitably leaves.

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talksport reporting again that we're in talks with Galatasaray over a permanent cut price deal.

 

Can't believe we're willing to take such a loss on him, still think he's worth at least £15m.

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talksport reporting again that we're in talks with Galatasaray over a permanent cut price deal.

 

Can't believe we're willing to take such a loss on him, still think he's worth at least £15m.

 

If no-one is offering £15M, he isn't

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talksport reporting again that we're in talks with Galatasaray over a permanent cut price deal.

 

Can't believe we're willing to take such a loss on him, still think he's worth at least £15m.

 

Is that Alex Crook "south coast football expert"

 

Cut our losses and get shot of him

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It does make me laugh when some fans say a certain player we are trying to off load is worth £15,000,000 yet others say we should only be buying / only can afford players in the £15,000,000 bracket..

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Shame.

 

There's a decent player behind that bad attitude.

 

Pity that Ralph couldn't find it.

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Shame.

 

There's a decent player behind that bad attitude.

 

Pity that Ralph couldn't find it.

Or Lemina couldn't find it in himself.

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Or Lemina couldn't find it in himself.

 

Agreed. He has rarely looked interested while he's been with us. Shame as there's a brilliant player in there.

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Agreed. He has rarely looked interested while he's been with us. Shame as there's a brilliant player in there.

 

Yep, when he wanted to be he was excellent, but two great games a season isn't enough i'm afraid. Sadly it seems he's another one more interested in being a celebrity than a footballer.

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Waste of a talent. Pity it had to be us that paid the money to find that out.

 

He has all the attributes we need in a midfielder but sadly he only seemed bothered on the odd occasion.

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Agree entirely with you

 

I remember last season when we drew 2-2 with Man Utd.

 

Lemina looked far better value than Pogber.

 

Shame Lemina couldnt show this type of form consistently.

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After this season might he repent and make it worth another try?

 

he wasn't arsed the two full years he was here, he told the club he wanted to leave so doesn't want to be here. Why on earth would he be worth another try?

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After this season might he repent and make it worth another try?

 

His performance in the fa cup semi against Chelsea will live long in the memory. I've never seen any player look so disinterested in such a big game.

 

Ability wise he was a great signing, but attitude wise he was a shocker. Sadly I can't see any chance of him fulfilling his potential here or anywhere and I'd take the most cash available this summer to get him off the books.

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His performance in the fa cup semi against Chelsea will live long in the memory. I've never seen any player look so disinterested in such a big game.

 

Ability wise he was a great signing, but attitude wise he was a shocker. Sadly I can't see any chance of him fulfilling his potential here or anywhere and I'd take the most cash available this summer to get him off the books.

 

This.

 

Could be great but can’t be bothered to apply himself and get his head down.

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This.

 

Could be great but can’t be bothered to apply himself and get his head down.

 

It's incredible that at 26 he's played more times for us than any other club, yet he seemed to miss more games than he played for us. He's only played more than 25 games in a season once, for us in his first season here. Could be a brilliant player if he wanted to be but i'd fully expect him to carry on with his 20 games a season average until his early 30s still thinking he's far better than the clubs he plays for.

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Agreed. He has rarely looked interested while he's been with us. Shame as there's a brilliant player in there.

 

Absolute rubbish. A cold, hailing home game at St Mary‘s against Liverpool a few winters back he was the one motivated player on the pitch, chasing down players, hustling players off the ball. He was motivated and interested where the rest of our players didn’t have a leader amongst them and were noticeably lack lustre. I appreciate the club reported Lemina had a seeming attitude problem or some falling out they don’t want to divulge but the times I saw him play, no issues were evident he was not motivated. In fact, It’s crazy he is being loaned out when he is the type of player we are crying out for and we are desperately short in midfield. Furthermore, many times, Lemina has stood out as being more motivated and committed than most. Unusual of you to be towing the club party line Egg.

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Lemina on his day is one of the best midfielders we've had in years. Thing is, his attitude means we've only seen that a couple of times. We need him off the wage bill now and unfortunately other clubs know it so won't offer much.

 

I'll be happy to see the back of him tbh, which is a shame.

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Just to be clear, I wasn’t saying he was always the most motivated but there were a lot of games when he was the most motivated and with undoubted ability so I don’t take that he was always unmotivated as it’s simply not true.

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Lemina on his day is one of the best midfielders we've had in years. Thing is, his attitude means we've only seen that a couple of times. We need him off the wage bill now and unfortunately other clubs know it so won't offer much.

 

I'll be happy to see the back of him tbh, which is a shame.

 

Agreed. I remember the pundits singing his praises as the best player on the pitch at the start of the season when he first arrived.

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Absolute rubbish. A cold, hailing home game at St Mary‘s against Liverpool a few winters back he was the one motivated player on the pitch, chasing down players, hustling players off the ball. He was motivated and interested where the rest of our players didn’t have a leader amongst them and were noticeably lack lustre. I appreciate the club reported Lemina had a seeming attitude problem or some falling out they don’t want to divulge but the times I saw him play, no issues were evident he was not motivated. In fact, It’s crazy he is being loaned out when he is the type of player we are crying out for and we are desperately short in midfield. Furthermore, many times, Lemina has stood out as being more motivated and committed than most. Unusual of you to be towing the club party line Egg.

Of all the opinions against Lemina you choose to focus on mine, but you're a lone voice mate. If you saw him regularly, and particularly in that semi final, you'd agree with the concensus. It's all about opinions, but I never thought I'd see anyone trying to argue that Lemina consistently showed passion and commitment in a saints shirt.

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WBA away/Palace away amongst some others he has looked world class, almost comparable to Pogba.

 

Unfortunately though this was probably about 1 every 6/7 games on average.

 

I really do rate him and still think he could have helped reach higher heights especially with the formation we are playing now.

 

However it is clear he values his social media equally, if not more, than the ability he has been blessed with.

 

I’d take £12-£15m now than another loan move

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