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Hopefully not for the quoted 20 million. (unless that includes potential bonuses that would come along at down the line)

 

A 20yr old at that price seems extreme.

 

It does, but here we are.

 

- If he’s rubbish, we’ve got another Moi or Hoedt.

- If he’s good, then he doubles in value.

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This djenopo guy does look exciting,crazy some crazy skills and step overs in that vid but looks a bit raw on end product from what I've seen.dont mind us bringing in him or lookman etc at all, but striker and cb should be the priority. We still have boufal coming back hopefully who could be like a new signing and will certainly be better then moi

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So to recap, we have in recent days/weeks been either linked with, or mentioned as being interested in:

 

Djenopo, Seferovic, Ajew, Aye, Goiginger, Lookman, Lallana, Trossard, Almeida, Adams, Connell, Phillips, Aribo

 

And probably a few others whose names escape me right now.

 

Of those, only really Lookman and Phillips (and maybe Adams) have the potential to add some immediate strength to the squad.

 

Also, no centre back mentioned yet either (Please step forward Willi Orban)

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So to recap, we have in recent days/weeks been either linked with, or mentioned as being interested in:

 

Djenopo, Seferovic, Ajew, Aye, Goiginger, Lookman, Lallana, Trossard, Almeida, Adams, Connell, Phillips, Aribo

 

And probably a few others whose names escape me right now.

 

Of those, only really Lookman and Phillips (and maybe Adams) have the potential to add some immediate strength to the squad.

 

Also, no centre back mentioned yet either (Please step forward Willi Orban)

 

Didn’t know you were so familiar with all those players.

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So to recap, we have in recent days/weeks been either linked with, or mentioned as being interested in:

 

Djenopo, Seferovic, Ajew, Aye, Goiginger, Lookman, Lallana, Trossard, Almeida, Adams, Connell, Phillips, Aribo

 

And probably a few others whose names escape me right now.

 

Of those, only really Lookman and Phillips (and maybe Adams) have the potential to add some immediate strength to the squad.

 

Also, no centre back mentioned yet either (Please step forward Willi Orban)

 

I mean, Lallana would definitely improve us, admittedly there are a few younger lads in there, (Aribo, Connell, Phillips, Lookman, Djenopo) but I'd rather we spent the money on younger promising players, rather than your Carrillos of this world.

 

Almeida would be a stop gap I guess as we want to develop Valery who could become a huge asset for us.

 

Ayew I give you is absolutely dreadful

 

We've got a lot of rebuilding to do, so not surprised we're looking at the highest rated lads in younger age groups rather than players abroad.

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I mean, Lallana would definitely improve us, admittedly there are a few younger lads in there, (Aribo, Connell, Phillips, Lookman, Djenopo) but I'd rather we spent the money on younger promising players, rather than your Carrillos of this world.

 

Almeida would be a stop gap I guess as we want to develop Valery who could become a huge asset for us.

 

Ayew I give you is absolutely dreadful

 

We've got a lot of rebuilding to do, so not surprised we're looking at the highest rated lads in younger age groups rather than players abroad.

 

Lallana's not going to improve us if Saints get a 10 point deduction for fans assaulting their own player on the pitch..!

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Don't know a lot about Seferovic but he doesn't fit the profile of the young 'first or second contract' players Ralf suggested we would be going after.

 

Sounds more like agent talk trying to drum up a move/get a pay rise for his client after he has one excellent season after a career with a goal return that looks suspiciously Shane Long-ish.

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Some caution required according to this article:

 

https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/southampton/southampton-would-be-getting-it-wrong-signing-one-season-wonder-haris-seferovic

 

Certainly it won't happen if the £54m release clause is required.

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Some caution required according to this article:

 

https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/southampton/southampton-would-be-getting-it-wrong-signing-one-season-wonder-haris-seferovic

 

Certainly it won't happen if the £54m release clause is required.

 

Isn't it a legal requirement in the Portuguese leagues to have a release clause? Doesn't mean they can't sell him for less.

 

Not sure I'm sold on a 27 y.o. striker who scored almost half his career goals in one season.

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Don't know a lot about Seferovic but he doesn't fit the profile of the young 'first or second contract' players Ralf suggested we would be going after.

 

Sounds more like agent talk trying to drum up a move/get a pay rise for his client after he has one excellent season after a career with a goal return that looks suspiciously Shane Long-ish.

 

As few others have mentioned when ive seen him for the swiss he's looked really poor and not what we need

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Don't know a lot about Seferovic but he doesn't fit the profile of the young 'first or second contract' players Ralf suggested we would be going after.

 

Sounds more like agent talk trying to drum up a move/get a pay rise for his client after he has one excellent season after a career with a goal return that looks suspiciously Shane Long-ish.

Fed up of people quoting that sort of thing like it's gospel. We may well get in some players like that but that, doesn't mean every single player we sign will be a youngster with potential. I'm certain we will bring in at least one more experienced player.
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Isn't it a legal requirement in the Portuguese leagues to have a release clause? Doesn't mean they can't sell him for less.

 

Not sure I'm sold on a 27 y.o. striker who scored almost half his career goals in one season.

 

Hadn't Pelle only had one decent season when we bought him in his late 20s?

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Hadn't Pelle only had one decent season when we bought him in his late 20s?

 

No, Pelle scored 50 league goals in 57 games over two seasons for Feyenoord. At least doing something impressive over two seasons in a row suggests it wasn't just a fluke. Also, we only paid about £8m for him, so he didn't precisely break the bank.

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This first article has a comment along the lines of 'benfica will be losing one of their strikers, will they also want to lose seforovic too' which makes me strongly suspect it's his agent pushing for his player to get a pay rise, rather than us actually looking to sign him. Could be wrong of course.

 

In any event, there's no way we'd be paying his full release clause ... unless our wonderful new sponsorship funds it, of course.

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Not only does Seferovic have a poor goal record before this year, so there are worries about him being a one season wonder, but I also wonder how much of his excellent season owes to playing up front with Jao Felix, the wonder kid that pretty much every club in Europe wants.

 

Plus Portgual is a bit like the Dutch league, its always a gamble getting someone who scores lots of goals for one of those big clubs in that league, remember van wolfswinkel that IIRC Norwich paid a record fee for after he had scored some goals for Sporting. He managed 1 goal for them.

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One of the chief reasons why Pelle worked at Saints, was because we had Tadic.

 

Too often English clubs buy strikers from Holland or Portugal etc and don't seem to look at why or how they score their goals. If the majority of the goals are two yard tap ins from crosses; and you don't play a system that includes wing-backs...it isn't going to work.

 

The need this summer is pacey players with technical ability and a couple of energizer bunny tanks in the midfield. If we can find a striker that is able to fit in to RH's system then added bonus.

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Gunn / Mccarthy

Maehle / Valery

Bednarek / Yoshida

Upamecano / vestermum

Bertrand / Voskins

Lemina / Slattery

Hojbjerg / Romeu

Boufal / JWP

Djenepo / Sims

Augustin / Ings

Redmond / Adams

 

Gatecrash the top 6.

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Gunn / Mccarthy

Maehle / Valery

Bednarek / Yoshida

Upamecano / vestermum

Bertrand / Voskins

Lemina / Slattery

Hojbjerg / Romeu

Boufal / JWP

Djenepo / Sims

Augustin / Ings

Redmond / Adams

 

Gatecrash the top 6.

 

No chance, unless a loan which is highly doubtful. He's already been linked with bigger clubs than us.

Leipzig do appear to have stockpiled a couple of useful future prospects in him and Konate. At a push they may be willing to release Orban. If we offer enough, and he kicks up about wanting to be reunited with Ralph.

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Woeful midfield.

 

Looks alright to me, Boufal aside. Depends how good Genepi is really, never seen him play. I don’t think we’re bad at creating chances. A decent striker would have scored 15 of the opportunities Long missed this season.

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Gunn / Mccarthy

Maehle / Valery

Bednarek / Yoshida

Upamecano / vestermum

Bertrand / Voskins

Lemina / Slattery

Hojbjerg / Romeu

Boufal / JWP

Djenepo / Sims

Augustin / Ings

Redmond / Adams

 

Gatecrash the top 6.

 

heads gone

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One of the chief reasons why Pelle worked at Saints, was because we had Tadic.

 

Too often English clubs buy strikers from Holland or Portugal etc and don't seem to look at why or how they score their goals. If the majority of the goals are two yard tap ins from crosses; and you don't play a system that includes wing-backs...it isn't going to work.

 

The need this summer is pacey players with technical ability and a couple of energizer bunny tanks in the midfield. If we can find a striker that is able to fit in to RH's system then added bonus.

 

I may be wrong but Tadic and Pelle didn’t play together before they came to Saints, so Pelle’s goal return in Holland had nothing to do with Tadic.

 

 

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I may be wrong but Tadic and Pelle didn’t play together before they came to Saints, so Pelle’s goal return in Holland had nothing to do with Tadic.

 

 

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I don't think that's what he was saying, it's more about understanding the type of delivery and service these centre forwards require. When Pelle was at Feyenoord he had the supply needed by wide players, so Koeman made sure we got a high calibre wide player who he'd have known well.

 

We pretty much pulled in the best Erenvise goal scorer and the best assister to play together, that's why it worked. Having a manager who understood what got the best out of Pelle was the key here.

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I don't think that's what he was saying, it's more about understanding the type of delivery and service these centre forwards require. When Pelle was at Feyenoord he had the supply needed by wide players, so Koeman made sure we got a high calibre wide player who he'd have known well.

 

We pretty much pulled in the best Erenvise goal scorer and the best assister to play together, that's why it worked. Having a manager who understood what got the best out of Pelle was the key here.

 

All this.

 

Can't get that for £20m these days :)

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Eh, whoever plays up front for Benfica seems to get about 30 goals a season, year in year out. One purple patch at 27 after multiple seasons only registering 2/3 goals a year does not a £50m player make.

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Not only that, we'd get absolutely demolished in midfield. Swap Romeu for Lemina, and JWP for Boufal and could work.

 

But even then, we would struggle to sign those players.

 

Not sure what you're getting at, these are the same players we had this season who were rarely demolished in midfield. I don't think he is suggesting an XI, just a squad of players to pick from.

 

If we had a striker who was fit enough to play the games Ings missed, clinical enough to take the chances Long squandered or just wasn't Austin, we'd have another 10 points.

 

If we didn't keep bottling it mentally, as a team and as individuals, we'd have another 15.

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heads gone

 

Heads gone? Firstly it's just a wish list but with the exception of Upa, the rest are attainable and within our budget. Sky money and selling the players we need to generates about 140 million! We obviously won't spend near that, but we could comfortably spend 90m if we really wanted to....

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25mill is an absolute joke. much better value in europe. and also, please anyway just spend 25m on a cb. ta

 

Think we've been stung too many times with the value in Europe...but yes a CB is definitely needed too.

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Think we've been stung too many times with the value in Europe...but yes a CB is definitely needed too.

 

On value from Europe i would list Hojberg, Bednarek, Vest, and probably even Lemina, just from the current first team, although I take your point re Carillo, and that useless Elyounoussi fellah

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Not sure what you're getting at, these are the same players we had this season who were rarely demolished in midfield. I don't think he is suggesting an XI, just a squad of players to pick from.

 

If we had a striker who was fit enough to play the games Ings missed, clinical enough to take the chances Long squandered or just wasn't Austin, we'd have another 10 points.

 

If we didn't keep bottling it mentally, as a team and as individuals, we'd have another 15.[/QUOTE]

 

That's a good summary, Mr Moderator. :p

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Could we... could we really? What makes you think that?

 

We absolutely could if we were to get rid of (rough figures)

 

McCarthy £5m

Cedric £10m

Stephens £5m

Hoedt £10m

 

Reed £5m

Clasie £2m

Elyounoussi £10m

Hesketh £2m

Boufal £12m

 

Carrillo £8m

Austin £3m

Gallagher £5m

 

Thats a total of ca £80m. Might have overpriced a couple and possibly underpriced a few, but high level we should be able to get somewhere between £60 - £80m for them. And of course the half million a week off the wage bill...

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Strikes the ball extremely well, but comically one-footed. Looks almost allergic to touching the ball with his right boot.

 

TBF, I don't think I've yet seen ings use his left foot either...it's stupidly common for a player to be one footed, look at the best player in the world.

 

I certainly think he could be a real player, not quite sure it should be £25m, but if he comes in suits the system and plays well, he's probably worth £30m +

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