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16 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

I was thinking more Julius Caesar than Wuthering Heights. The semaphore flags might get confused with the Linos, though they don't use their flags much these days. The Aldis Lamp has the added advantage of dazzling the opponents.

 

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I like your style!! Aldis lamp it is.

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2 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

Agreed. Please let us beat Man U. My son-in-law will be a nightmare if they beat us. 

If he's from there then fine, if not - tell him to get bent. I'll never take stick from someone who doesn't originate from at least within 20 miles or so of the team they support, especially if it's one of that lot. I dont care how many great grandparents grew up there etc etc

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Someone on reddit has translated the whole of that interview posted above. It features more interesting information, such as Ings walking around the canteen at Staplewood telling people he'll be back in 4 weeks.

Fans of the 9-0 klaxon don't have to wait too long for their fix.

 

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Very good interview, thank you for sharing. Admits his mistake with the high line at the beginning of the season, another sign that he's the real deal as a lot of managers would have tried to be stubborn with the tactic, rather than dropping it immediately. A few digs at Hojbjerg and confirmation that we are trying to extend Ings' contract, as that has gone quiet for a while, alongside Bertrand. Also confirms at the end that he is happy here, due to the amount of power he has here, which he is not likely to get at a bigger club than us. His working relationship with Semmens is also strong, so hopefully a core remains at the top when the eventual takeover does happen. Like Poch and Cortese.

One final thing, do Sunderland get pelted with losing 8-0 to us in 2014 in every sentence they are mentioned in? 

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Many thanks for posting the interview. There's a lot of positive stuff in there. Obviously values the trust he has with Semmens and the club. Positive news about Danny Ings too. Realistic view on Saints chances of a top ten finish, but there is also a suggestion between the lines that we can better that.  Interesting comments about PEH too. His Missus is happy too "in the South of England" which sounds like they are well settled. (Wasn't Puel's wife unhappy in England?......no excuse for the boring football though, I know) Our Ralph is no mug. He knows what he's doing!

92 clubs in the English Football League and I reckon between 85 and 87 of them wish they had our manager!

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8 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

 

One final thing, do Sunderland get pelted with losing 8-0 to us in 2014 in every sentence they are mentioned in? 

Although it’s annoying, the reason it’s mentioned is because the club stuck with Ralph and we are now doing great, it is a good and unusual story.

Sunderland just continued to sink like a stone so it was nowhere near as interesting.

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The development of a philosophy for the whole club is a really important step. I think, I know, where Ralph got this idea from. It was Ralf Rangnick, who implemented this system in the Red Bull world. Starting with the youth teams, FC Liefering, FC Salzburg. Salzburg won the youth champions league playing the unique football of Ralf Rangnick.

I think, Hasenhüttl is inspired a lot of this Rangnick Pressing-Football, but he tries to improve it in many ways. And he is open minded and not stubborn, he make a step back, if he see, that he had made a step to much forward. Southhampton is a lot more than a one trick pony in the meantime. And this make it difficult to calculate.

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How I laugh now, when I look at the first 2 pages Of this thread where all the regular posters were calling for him to be sacked after the Leicester game and how I along with 2-3 others posters were saying that you need to judge the manager over the whole Season and not based on form over the last 6 games.

 

Same people now calling him one of our greatest managers, that he is a genious. Laughable 😂😂😂

 

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42 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

How I laugh now, when I look at the first 2 pages Of this thread where all the regular posters were calling for him to be sacked after the Leicester game and how I along with 2-3 others posters were saying that you need to judge the manager over the whole Season and not based on form over the last 6 games.

 

Same people now calling him one of our greatest managers, that he is a genious. Laughable 😂😂😂

 

Some great posts on there "f*ck of back to Germany Ralph you c*nt" a long rambling post from the historian, and if i'm not much mistake then poster who suggested a front sweeper a few years back suggest we play Ings in midfield. 🤣 🤣🤣🤣

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5 hours ago, Turkish said:

Some great posts on there "f*ck of back to Germany Ralph you c*nt" a long rambling post from the historian, and if i'm not much mistake then poster who suggested a front sweeper a few years back suggest we play Ings in midfield. 🤣 🤣🤣🤣

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6 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

How I laugh now, when I look at the first 2 pages Of this thread where all the regular posters were calling for him to be sacked after the Leicester game and how I along with 2-3 others posters were saying that you need to judge the manager over the whole Season and not based on form over the last 6 games.

 

Same people now calling him one of our greatest managers, that he is a genious. Laughable 😂😂😂

 

One of my favourite pastimes is reading back through threads like this to have a chortle at the "glad I was proven wrong" brigade 

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To be fair, I think a lot of people backed Ralph - even after that 9-0. We were all beaten at that point I think, but given that we had (prior to that) 3 and a bit appalling seasons under Puel, Pellegrino and Hugues it just felt there was more wrong than 'just the manager'. I still believe as i did then that he was as good as we could have ever recruited and he was a coup for us.

One thing that has surprised me more than anything is how he's turned around some of these players, after that 9-0 (sorry, i said it again) Vestergaard, JWP, Redmond etc could have done one, the morale between fans and players was at an all time low (it was 3 years of shit from them, after all).

So what he's achieved is even more remarkable really as he's got players that had 'lost it' back to a professional level. 

With someone like Ralph I guess it's a long-term approach rather than a short-term fix it all, yes, we had a bounce, but he still had to totally change the mentality and approach of our entire team (and coaches). That took some time but we finally got there, and I think he's humble enough to admit that he's also learnt valuable lessons along the way from certain mistakes he's made.

This entire 18 months has been a 'growth' period for everyone at Southampton and long may it continue.

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Anyone who stood in the pissing rain that night (9-0) and watched the whole lot, would be entitled to the raw opinion they had at the time. I’d be surprised if many genuinely wanted to see him sacked though. Even the 9-0 was more entertaining than the dross of the previous few managers.

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38 minutes ago, saintquin said:

One thing I like about him is he's not afraid to admit he's got something wrong and is willing to drop an idea when it doesn't work. Not all managers do!

Think he learnt this at Saints though. He's developing into a brilliant manager at the same rate that the players are developing into a brilliant team. 

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44 minutes ago, FairWeather said:

Another nice article about Saints under Hasenhuttl: https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/tactical-analysis-ralph-hasenhuttls-southampton-2/

Interesting that people are taking note of us not just playing well, but the differences and innovation between us and other teams.

 

 

 

I am not as sure as the author that Southampton will drop out of the race for the top 4. While it is likely that other teams can work out ways of dealing with our tactics on paper and in training they will only have one or two chances of putting their theories into practice.

As we have just witnessed, Newcastle admitted that they knew beforehand what they were up against but when the time came they had no idea in practice of how to deal with us on the pitch.

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3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

I am not as sure as the author that Southampton will drop out of the race for the top 4. While it is likely that other teams can work out ways of dealing with our tactics on paper and in training they will only have one or two chances of putting their theories into practice.

As we have just witnessed, Newcastle admitted that they knew beforehand what they were up against but when the time came they had no idea in practice of how to deal with us on the pitch.

agree with this actually. I thin it will coem down to fitness of players and whether the players tire as the season progresses. A little bit of luck with injuries and we could have a decent season. 

I think the next 3 games will tell us lots more about our prospects.

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9 points would be "dreamworld" but not impossible. 7 points (2 wins and a draw) would be pretty damn good. Even 6 (two wins and a loss) would be good. 5 points (2 draws and a win - keeping the unbeaten record) wouldn't be disastrous. Any less than that based on current form would be disappointing.

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On 16/11/2020 at 13:16, wild-saint said:

ze agree with this actually. I thin it will coem down to fitness of players and whether the players tire as the season progresses. A little bit of luck with injuries and we could have a decent season. 

I think the next 3 games will tell us lots more about our prospects.

I agree. The thinness of the squad does concern me a little although hopefully a youngster or two could step up if necessary. However our lack of European football and early exit from the League Cup means that with a bit of luck with injuries this small squad size may not be an issue. A 17 day rest between Newcastle and Wolves must also be a help in this regard.

The main reason why we cannot compete for a top 4 place is ....  because we never do. Only in my most fanciful moments do I believe that we can compete for a top 4 place but who knows? We could be in for a fantastic season.   

 

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32 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

The main reason why we cannot compete for a top 4 place is ....  because we never do. Only in my most fanciful moments do I believe that we can compete for a top 4 place but who knows? We could be in for a fantastic season.   

We did as recently as 4 years ago! In 2016 Saints were only 3 points away from 4th at the end of the season.

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5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

We did as recently as 4 years ago! In 2016 Saints were only 3 points away from 4th at the end of the season.

That season it didn't feel like we were getting near the top 4. Didn't we win 9 out of the last 10 games to boost right up the league? (hazy memory).

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11 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

It is still competing for a place if you end the season only 3 points away from it.

You know what he means, we were never once in contention that season to finish in the top four, our form from November to January cost us anything really special, bar the win over Arsenal. 

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11 hours ago, skintsaint said:

That season it didn't feel like we were getting near the top 4. Didn't we win 9 out of the last 10 games to boost right up the league? (hazy memory).

We finished 3 points off the champions league places, our second half of the season form was brilliant, winning i think it was 12 out of 19 including 7 of our last 9. With 5 games to go we were 10 points behind Man City who did finishing 4th, we won our last 4 and drew one, they won one  they lost one (against us) and drew 3 which meant that although we finished 3 points below them, plus a much worse goal difference so would actually have needed 4 more points behind them we were never in with a chance at any point that season, if MLG wants to pretend that's competing for the top 4 then that's up to him, any normal person will know that wasn't the case. 

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

We finished 3 points off the champions league places, our second half of the season form was brilliant, winning i think it was 12 out of 19 including 7 of our last 9. With 5 games to go we were 10 points behind Man City who did finishing 4th, we won our last 4 and drew one, they won one  they lost one (against us) and drew 3 which meant that although we finished 3 points below them, plus a much worse goal difference so would actually have needed 4 more points behind them we were never in with a chance at any point that season, if MLG wants to pretend that's competing for the top 4 then that's up to him, any normal person will know that wasn't the case. 

In 83-84 were barley in contention for a UEFA cup place until we lost that Semi-final , but we went on a great run and finished 2nd. Doesn't matter how you get there, it is where you end up that matters most.

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3 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Pretty sure we were 4th at Christmas so we were certainly in contention for a while.

I think that’s the 2014/15 season you are thinking about

If I remember correctly we weren’t doing so well nearer Christmas in 2015/16 and there was even talks of Koeman getting sacked! Until we then went on that amazing run to the end.

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6 minutes ago, nta786 said:

I think that’s the 2014/15 season you are thinking about

If I remember correctly we weren’t doing so well nearer Christmas in 2015/16 and there was even talks of Koeman getting sacked! Until we then went on that amazing run to the end.

Yes I think you're right, getting my Koeman seasons mixed up.

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1 hour ago, redkeith said:

In 83-84 were barley in contention for a UEFA cup place until we lost that Semi-final , but we went on a great run and finished 2nd. Doesn't matter how you get there, it is where you end up that matters most.

If people want to pretend competing = being in with virtually zero chance then crack on. 

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4 hours ago, Appy said:

You know what he means, we were never once in contention that season to finish in the top four, our form from November to January cost us anything really special, bar the win over Arsenal. 

 

21 minutes ago, Turkish said:

If people want to pretend competing = being in with virtually zero chance then crack on. 

Using that 'logic' being 3 points above the relegation zone at the end of the season is not being in a relegation battle.

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22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Using that 'logic' being 3 points above the relegation zone at the end of the season is not being in a relegation battle.

Correct.  Club could be safe on 40 points after 25 odd games and lose the rest.  Wouldn't say they were in a relegation battle. 

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38 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Using that 'logic' being 3 points above the relegation zone at the end of the season is not being in a relegation battle.

Correct if you’ve been midtable all season lose or your last 10 and games still finish 3, effectively 4 points due to goal difference above the relegation zone you weren’t really ever in a relegation battle. 

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