S-Clarke Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 18 hours ago, skintsaint said: That season it didn't feel like we were getting near the top 4. Didn't we win 9 out of the last 10 games to boost right up the league? (hazy memory). We had a dreadful run of form through November and Dec if i remember rightly, there was a post on here after we lost to Burnley (I think?) with people worried we were going to get relegated - we were being dragged down the table. 2nd half we turned it on though and Mane and co found their mojo, and because Man Utd, Liverpool etc had 'poor' years we managed to Gatecrash that top 6 a little easier than usual. It was the year Leicester won the league as well, so very strange all in all. Link to post Share on other sites
HarvSFC Posted 18 November, 2020 Share Posted 18 November, 2020 (edited) Yeah, Leicester were the only team to acquire more points than us from January 2016 to May 2016. We won 12 of our last 18 games, three defeats and three draws. Edited 18 November, 2020 by HarvSFC Link to post Share on other sites
skintsaint Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 5 hours ago, S-Clarke said: It was the year Leicester won the league as well, so very strange all in all. Ah yes - Spurs finished 3rd in a two horse race for the title too 😄 Link to post Share on other sites
JRM Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 Still early days but this season feels like it has similarities to 2016, "big" clubs struggling to adapt to no crowds and congested fixture lists are going to drop more points than usual, makes each game hard to predict but if we can benefit from that and stay in the mix will make it exciting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tajjuk Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 (edited) Tactics Explained: Southampton ^ Worth a watch Edited 19 November, 2020 by tajjuk Link to post Share on other sites
trousers Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 1 hour ago, tajjuk said: Tactics Explained: Southampton ^ Worth a watch When St.Mary's re-opens again, I think this video needs to be turned into an explanatory leaflet and handed out to all our fans upon entering the stadium. Otherwise, 90% of home fans won't get why we're re-cycling the ball to our back 4 when in the opponents half, upon which the moaning and groaning will start. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Turkish Posted 19 November, 2020 Share Posted 19 November, 2020 19 minutes ago, trousers said: When St.Mary's re-opens again, I think this video needs to be turned into an explanatory leaflet and handed out to all our fans upon entering the stadium. Otherwise, 90% of home fans won't get why we're re-cycling the ball to our back 4 when in the opponents half, upon which the moaning and groaning will start. DONT MESS ABOUT WITH IT GET IT FOOOOOOORWAAAAAAAAARD!!!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Noodles34 Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 21 hours ago, trousers said: When St.Mary's re-opens again, I think this video needs to be turned into an explanatory leaflet and handed out to all our fans upon entering the stadium. Otherwise, 90% of home fans won't get why we're re-cycling the ball to our back 4 when in the opponents half, upon which the moaning and groaning will start. It was a great example of these tactics against Newcastle but as good as we were on the ball, we have seen our defence lose possession so many times before, there is ways going to an air of nervousness. I think that is different from moaning and groaning. The ore we play and more importantly win like this, the more patient and understanding fans will become. We are used to fucking up and losing, it’s going to take a long time to get over that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
skintsaint Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Noodles34 said: we have seen our defence lose possession so many times before, The graphics on that link show if we do get dispossessed our players are spread out and well out of position. I guess watching Saints for me will always leave me with no fingernails... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TWar Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 This really shows the importance of Vestergaard to how we play. A ball playing centerback is essential given that McCarthy has such poor distribution. Hoping Salisu comes good and takes Bednarek's role as he has a good left foot apparently. Link to post Share on other sites
Sarnia Cherie Posted 20 November, 2020 Share Posted 20 November, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 11:22, LeBizzier69 said: If he's from there then fine, if not - tell him to get bent. I'll never take stick from someone who doesn't originate from at least within 20 miles or so of the team they support, especially if it's one of that lot. I dont care how many great grandparents grew up there etc etc That should reduce their fan base by about 75%. 😄 Glory hunters at the end of the day, except there isn't much glory at the moment and long may that continue! Link to post Share on other sites
OldNick Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 I saw online that Ralph was one of the lowest paid managers in the league, 20k a week. I found this unlikely but if it is the case he will be easy to take from us. Surely this cant be correct with the average players earning more than him Link to post Share on other sites
Harry_SFC Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 1 minute ago, OldNick said: I saw online that Ralph was one of the lowest paid managers in the league, 20k a week. I found this unlikely but if it is the case he will be easy to take from us. Surely this cant be correct with the average players earning more than him Can't imagine that's accurate. Maybe before the contract extension in April? I'm sure he would've had a hefty pay rise. Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Le God Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, OldNick said: I saw online that Ralph was one of the lowest paid managers in the league, 20k a week. I found this unlikely but if it is the case he will be easy to take from us. Surely this cant be correct with the average players earning more than him Hasenhuttl won't be on anything remotely like £20k per week. He'll be on far more than that. The Telegraph claimed Saints in 2016 offered Koemam over £80k per week to stay, Everton just offered more. Edited 22 November, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to post Share on other sites
OldNick Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 Just now, Harry_SFC said: Can't imagine that's accurate. Maybe before the contract extension in April? I'm sure he would've had a hefty pay rise. It was on a feed I cant recall which one, but it was about Pep's wages and how the other managers were in comparison. There again a similar thing was about clubs owners and said Gao was worth 3.6bn, so must be nonsense Link to post Share on other sites
Hayling Saint Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 www.sportekz.com/football/premier-league-managers-2020-salaries Link to post Share on other sites
trousers Posted 22 November, 2020 Share Posted 22 November, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hayling Saint said: https://www.sportekz.com/football/premier-league-managers-2020-salaries/ That article says Ralph is on c.£1m per annum (c.£20k per week) and this one says he's on c.£6m per annum (c.£115k per week)... https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-top-10s-news-the-premier-leagues-ten-highest-paid-managers-have-been-revealed-20200917 Press your buttons and gamble away... Edited 22 November, 2020 by trousers Link to post Share on other sites
wild-saint Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 18:59, trousers said: That article says Ralph is on c.£1m per annum (c.£20k per week) and this one says he's on c.£6m per annum (c.£115k per week)... https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-top-10s-news-the-premier-leagues-ten-highest-paid-managers-have-been-revealed-20200917 Press your buttons and gamble away... if he is only on £20k per week after signing a new contract in the summer I would love to know what he was on before. Link to post Share on other sites
Saint86 Posted 8 December, 2020 Share Posted 8 December, 2020 (edited) https://theathletic.com/2234408/2020/12/04/hasenhuttl-pochettino-koeman/?source=weeklyemail&redirected=1 Article in the Athletic discussing are3 best managers in the modern era. Also at least partially mentions the infamous momentum curve. Edited 8 December, 2020 by Saint86 Link to post Share on other sites
Turkish Posted 8 December, 2020 Share Posted 8 December, 2020 54 minutes ago, Saint86 said: https://theathletic.com/2234408/2020/12/04/hasenhuttl-pochettino-koeman/?source=weeklyemail&redirected=1 Article in the Athletic discussing are3 best managers in the modern era. Also at least partially mentions the infamous momentum curve. i wonder where we are now on said curve? Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie May Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 Favre has been sacked by Dortmund. Hands off Ralph, please. Link to post Share on other sites
East Kent Saint Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 (edited) On 26/11/2020 at 10:02, wild-saint said: if he is only on £20k per week after signing a new contract in the summer I would love to know what he was on before. I’d plump for Christopher Plummer. In the quiz that is ... Edited 13 December, 2020 by East Kent Saint Link to post Share on other sites
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 48 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Favre has been sacked by Dortmund. Hands off Ralph, please. Yep, would be a huge temptation. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Kucho Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 57 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Favre has been sacked by Dortmund. Hands off Ralph, please. My first thoughts too. First favorites are Marco Rose , Adolf Hutter (his real name) and the bloke from RB Salzburg. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Clarke Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said: My first thoughts too. First favorites are Marco Rose , Adolf Hutter (his real name) and the bloke from RB Salzburg. Surely Julian Nagelsmann should be high up on their list? Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Kucho Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Surely Julian Nagelsmann should be high up on their list? I doubt Nagelsmann would leave Leipzig. He’s doing a great job there and Red Bull have money to keep him satisfied. I think Nagelsmann will likely leave to Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Liverpool etc. Link to post Share on other sites
goodymatt Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 I see betting suspended on Poch with some bookies, would be a great fit! Link to post Share on other sites
danjosaint Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 Which may make utd make a move early 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SKD Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 Their assistant has been appointed until the end of the season, so won’t be going for him any time soon. id love Ralph to have 1 more season with us. The development in the 2 years since he took over has been remarkable and everything just seemingly starting to click. i wouldn’t blame Ralph for walking in the summer tho if the ownership remains the same, probably at our very limit without any investment and the thought of losing our best player (if he doesn’t sign a contract). Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Le God Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SKD said: I wouldn’t blame Ralph for walking in the summer tho if the ownership remains the same, probably at our very limit without any investment and the thought of losing our best player (if he doesn’t sign a contract). 3rd in the PL isn't a bad limit. 😉 Edited 13 December, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to post Share on other sites
washsaint Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 1 hour ago, SKD said: Their assistant has been appointed until the end of the season, so won’t be going for him any time soon. id love Ralph to have 1 more season with us. The development in the 2 years since he took over has been remarkable and everything just seemingly starting to click. i wouldn’t blame Ralph for walking in the summer tho if the ownership remains the same, probably at our very limit without any investment and the thought of losing our best player (if he doesn’t sign a contract). You're a ray of sunshine aren't you? Looking at Ralph today, and listening to him recently, you can see he absolutely LOVES it here and has complete control of the footballing side of things across the club. He seems to prefer working with rough diamonds and small squads and have a feeling he will be with us for some time. Saints and Ralph are made for each other: and I actually don't have an issue with Gao's ownership. He doesn;t seem to interfere and we are back to being a verty well run club with a feelgood factor around it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 2 hours ago, SKD said: Their assistant has been appointed until the end of the season, so won’t be going for him any time soon. id love Ralph to have 1 more season with us. The development in the 2 years since he took over has been remarkable and everything just seemingly starting to click. i wouldn’t blame Ralph for walking in the summer tho if the ownership remains the same, probably at our very limit without any investment and the thought of losing our best player (if he doesn’t sign a contract). I think Ralph will be staying a little longer, he loves the challenge of improving players so I personally don’t think the ownership has anything to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites
egg Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 7 hours ago, goodymatt said: I see betting suspended on Poch with some bookies, would be a great fit! Poch won't go there. Him to Real Madrid next is the safest bet in town. Link to post Share on other sites
SKD Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 16 hours ago, washsaint said: You're a ray of sunshine aren't you? Looking at Ralph today, and listening to him recently, you can see he absolutely LOVES it here and has complete control of the footballing side of things across the club. He seems to prefer working with rough diamonds and small squads and have a feeling he will be with us for some time. Saints and Ralph are made for each other: and I actually don't have an issue with Gao's ownership. He doesn;t seem to interfere and we are back to being a verty well run club with a feelgood factor around it. I’ve no doubt he’s enjoying his time here, like I’ve no doubt he enjoyed his time at RB. The reality is, 3 years is a long time for a manager in this day and age. He made it perfectly obvious that we’re a stepping stone for him and I think we’re still that. Ralph isn’t daft, I don’t think he’d jump at any opportunity and rather only the right opportunity. For example, I don’t think he’d go to arsenal as they’re just a shambles. regarding ownership, It’s not soo much Gao that’s the issue, it’s more the lack of investment. Like it or not, top 10 over 38 games is our very limit on our budget with our squad. Link to post Share on other sites
wild-saint Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 2 minutes ago, SKD said: I’ve no doubt he’s enjoying his time here, like I’ve no doubt he enjoyed his time at RB. The reality is, 3 years is a long time for a manager in this day and age. He made it perfectly obvious that we’re a stepping stone for him and I think we’re still that. Ralph isn’t daft, I don’t think he’d jump at any opportunity and rather only the right opportunity. For example, I don’t think he’d go to arsenal as they’re just a shambles. regarding ownership, It’s not soo much Gao that’s the issue, it’s more the lack of investment. Like it or not, top 10 over 38 games is our very limit on our budget with our squad. It really isnt though is it? we finished 11th last season after an absolute sicker of a start. id be gobsmacked if we didn't finish higher than 10t this season. Koeman showed over two season what is possible despite losing a raft of players when he started. How high we finish is the question and no doubt will be how we cope with injuries / get away with very few. Link to post Share on other sites
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 3 minutes ago, SKD said: I’ve no doubt he’s enjoying his time here, like I’ve no doubt he enjoyed his time at RB. The reality is, 3 years is a long time for a manager in this day and age. He made it perfectly obvious that we’re a stepping stone for him and I think we’re still that. Ralph isn’t daft, I don’t think he’d jump at any opportunity and rather only the right opportunity. For example, I don’t think he’d go to arsenal as they’re just a shambles. regarding ownership, It’s not soo much Gao that’s the issue, it’s more the lack of investment. Like it or not, top 10 over 38 games is our very limit on our budget with our squad. Where has he made it perfectly obvious? I’ve not seen that quote so just asking. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_D Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 I just wish Markus Liebherr was still around to see us playing like this, and doing this well in the league. After he'd set us on the path towards it, would have been fantastic to see his reaction to us going top for a while! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Le God Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 3 hours ago, SKD said: Like it or not, top 10 over 38 games is our very limit on our budget with our squad. That is nonsense. Over the last 38 league games Saints have picked up circa 64 points. That is a large sample and would be enough for higher than 10th. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
saint77 Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 5 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Where has he made it perfectly obvious? I’ve not seen that quote so just asking. Don’t you know SKD knows everything or he thinks he knows everything 1 Link to post Share on other sites
trousers Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 (edited) I suspect most Saints fans have reassessd and adjusted our expectations as to what position we might finish in, following the impressive first 3rd of the season. Which (perhaps) begs the question: "What's the highest finishing position that you'll now be slightly disappointed with?" For me, 8th is where disappointment will start to kick in, as that'll mean just missing out on European qualification. Given I thought we'd finish top 10 anyway, that's admittedly a very fine line between being happy and disappointed! So, where would an element of disappointment start to kick in for you, given how much we've improved and where we are now? (Just to be clear, I'm not asking where you think we'll finish, rather what's the highest position that you'll now be disappointed with) Edited 14 December, 2020 by trousers Link to post Share on other sites
SKD Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 7 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Where has he made it perfectly obvious? I’ve not seen that quote so just asking. His very first interview. I can’t remember word for word and it wasn’t a simple as ‘they are a stepping stone’, but that’s what was insinuated. I get the impression Ralph Is an honest and loyal bloke, but the thought that he’s loves it here so much that he wouldn’t walk for a bigger club and better option is laughable really. Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 Fitness is the key for me. Keep everyone injury free and I think we could be top 6. Drop two or three key players and it may be a different story. Link to post Share on other sites
trousers Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 2 minutes ago, SKD said: His very first interview. I can’t remember word for word and it wasn’t a simple as ‘they are a stepping stone’, but that’s what was insinuated. Link to post Share on other sites
Manuel Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 He's clearly very ambitious. Very ambitious people tend not to settle for anything other than the top. So we should be fine! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Østerrike Posted 15 December, 2020 Share Posted 15 December, 2020 RAAAALPHHHH 🥰 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Munster Posted 15 December, 2020 Share Posted 15 December, 2020 2 hours ago, Østerrike said: RAAAALPHHHH 🥰 Can't argue with that. Link to post Share on other sites
trousers Posted 20 December, 2020 Share Posted 20 December, 2020 (edited) It's the Daily Express so difficult to know what'll happen first... Ralph leaving for Man Utd or the 17 feet of snow that they'll have forecast for the UK this winter... Edited 20 December, 2020 by trousers Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Posted 20 December, 2020 Share Posted 20 December, 2020 I'd have though Pochetino would be higher up their list. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenilworthy Posted 20 December, 2020 Share Posted 20 December, 2020 4 minutes ago, Badger said: I'd have though Pochetino would be higher up their list. Surely United's next manager will be someone who has actually won something? Link to post Share on other sites
RedWillie Posted 20 December, 2020 Share Posted 20 December, 2020 Well all the talk about OGS .... currently 2 nil up after 5 mins, 4th place and if they win game in hand go second.😮 Relax, Ralph can stay put 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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