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18 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

I've said all along that he needs to prove himself in the first 10 or so games of this season. This was not a good start

The 2nd international break comes in November after 11 games when we will have played teams of all abilities, I can see this being the point when the board should be considering a managerial change if things are going badly. Looking at the 11 games I can see us only getting 5 to 7 points by then with games 9 and 10 at home to Burnley and away at Watford being key, get 0 or 1 point against these and things could be looking tricky for Ralph.

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2 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Nothings changed.

Never uses subs as an advantage and it’s plain to see that we needed to freshen it up before they scored the second.

I personally would of taken Walcott off after 60 minutes and replaced with Tella.

Armstrong on for Armstrong as he run himself into the ground, Walker-Peters for Tino (knackered) and I would of sent Redmond to Tesco’s to get some strawberries.

Walcott should not have come out for the second half.

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47 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

Rather Frank Lampard personally as he is an attraction for players plus has a go with his substutions.

Lampard wouldn’t come here, he’s one of those managers who will want money to spend, especially given he needs to re-establish himself after getting the sack at Chelsea. 
Howe would be the obvious choice - he wouldn’t have to move away from Poole which seems to loom large, and he’s used to penny pinching. I’m not sure I would want him, he’s another stubborn bugger who has his favourites and no plan B.

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4 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Lampard wouldn’t come here, he’s one of those managers who will want money to spend, especially given he needs to re-establish himself after getting the sack at Chelsea. 
Howe would be the obvious choice - he wouldn’t have to move away from Poole which seems to loom large, and he’s used to penny pinching. I’m not sure I would want him, he’s another stubborn bugger who has his favourites and no plan B.

Agree with that, although Lampard did ok, he would want shed loads of money to try and get this lot competitive. Howe is the obvious choice as you rightly say. Am not totally convinced by him either, but at least he would bring in some fresh ideas.

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I think people need to realise that any manager would struggle with the limitations that this club have. 

He's doing plenty wrong but when the alternatives being thrown around are Howe, Lampard and god forbid Allardyce, maybe it's time to take a breather. 

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5 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Agree with that, although Lampard did ok, he would want shed loads of money to try and get this lot competitive. Howe is the obvious choice as you rightly say. Am not totally convinced by him either, but at least he would bring in some fresh ideas.

Just look at the way Tuchel instantly improved Chelsea when he took over from Lampard's shambles. It's a no from me

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4 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I think people need to realise that any manager would struggle with the limitations that this club have. 

He's doing plenty wrong but when the alternatives being thrown around are Howe, Lampard and god forbid Allardyce, maybe it's time to take a breather. 

I'm no real fan of Howe, but I'm pretty certain he wouldn't have been out thought tacitally by Benetiz.

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We played a good first half and threw it away with individual errors against a good side. The meltdown was predictable but still not worthy of suggesting things like bringing in Big Sam or Eddie Howe

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1 minute ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Just look at the way Tuchel instantly improved Chelsea when he took over from Lampard's shambles. It's a no from me

To be fair though, we are operating at a totally different level to Chelsea. Am not saying I would want Lampard here, but tactically he would be more aware than Ralph seems to be. 

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3 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Based on absolutely nothing.

You think? All it was effectively was a simple change in formation which Ralph failed to recognise. Or if he did was too stubborn to do anything about. If the fans can see it, why can't a professional manager see it? It happens all the time. JWP was clearly unfit, he should have been off before they got the second goal, or not have even started. Good managers react to situations. Walcott should have been off at the same time. The guy spent all summer bigging up Tella, but doesn't start him. We had the strongest bench we have had for sometime, and yet the subs were still not made until we were 2-1 down. 

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13 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I'm no real fan of Howe, but I'm pretty certain he wouldn't have been out thought tacitally by Benetiz.

Ralph wasn’t tactically outthought. Once again first half was good then it was down to the same players making the same mistakes and losing the game. Yes Ralph should had made changes, Walcott was pretty awful so Armstrong or Tella on, that’s on him. As is picking the players who keep making mistakes. after w conceded a pathetic goal we got back on top then conceded two more to throw the game away, they won by not doing anything more than basic stuff as we can’t defend,
But let’s not make out it was some tactical masterclass from Benitez which bamboozled the manager, we lost the games because of the same players doing what they’ve done for years along with a lack of leadership on the pitch, something else he’s had plenty of time to address but hasn’t.

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There’s a lot of managers out thought tactically by Rafa, there’s no shame in that. However, bring tactically out thought by every single fucking manager, pretty much every single fucking game , a different matter. People deride Fat Sam for his 4-4-fucking 2, but this bloke is just as inflexible, just as stuck in his ways as any of the old school managers. FFS nothing  changed after the pathetic end to last season. 

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Ralph wasn’t tactically outthought. Once again first half was good then it was down to the same players making the same mistakes and losing the game. Yes Ralph should had made changes, Walcott was pretty awful so Armstrong or Tella on, that’s on him. As is picking the players who keep making mistakes. But let’s not make out it was some tactical masterclass from Benitez which bamboozled the manager, we lost the games because of the same players doing what they’ve done for years along with a lack of leadership on the pitch, something else he’s had plenty of time to address but hasn’t.

Maybe out thought wasn't the correct term, but it was a switch from Benetiz that Ralph failed to deal with, yet again. I just don't understand if we as fans can spot the changes, why isn't Ralph able to spot them and react to them? If he doesn't spot them, what are the other guys on the bench doing for 90 minutes??

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This calendar year away from home we have played 14 and lost 13. The only game in which defeat was avoided was against one of the worst teams in PL history. The facts speak for themselves. Ralph's time is up.

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The stats aren't promising for Ralph. Its the lack of passion, determination and strength his team has that worries me. I've always felt our teams under him to be weak, both physically and (particularly) mentally.

 

This isn't a quick fix, it takes a culture shift led by a new manager.

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I’m not yet Ralph Out, but I 100% believe this season is make or break for him. All excuses are gone now. 

Deadwood players are gone so the wage bill is healthier.

We got decent money for Ings and Vestergaard so can sign players he wants, in addition to those he has recruited already. 

He has had enough time to establish is system and ideas and train / develop the squad. 

He has plenty of experience in the EPL, so knows what’s needed.

What other excuses are there?

Squad depth? He doesn’t use them.

Squad quality? He chose them and trains them.

Back room staff? He chose them or has decided to keep them, and has added names. 
 

If he and his back room staff can’t make his system work with his players, it’s his fault and he should go. If he can, he gets the credit. 

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1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Lampard wouldn’t come here, he’s one of those managers who will want money to spend, especially given he needs to re-establish himself after getting the sack at Chelsea. 
Howe would be the obvious choice - he wouldn’t have to move away from Poole which seems to loom large, and he’s used to penny pinching. I’m not sure I would want him, he’s another stubborn bugger who has his favourites and no plan B.

Lampard has a pad in Poole (well, Studland to be precise….)

 

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1 minute ago, Pat from Poole said:

Lampard has a pad in Poole (well, Studland to be precise….)

 

So has Tony Pullis, and I wouldn’t want him either. Does it matter where they live? If a manager only wants a job because it’s local, I’m not sure he’s what we want 

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13 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

So has Tony Pullis, and I wouldn’t want him either. Does it matter where they live? If a manager only wants a job because it’s local, I’m not sure he’s what we want 

Probably doesn’t matter. Pretty nomadic industry, football.

Lampard didn’t move much in his playing career, so not having to uproot family might be a bigger deal for him than somebody like Pochettino, who was quite happy for his family to live in a different country while he managed in England.

I don’t think Lampard would want to work for us though.

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Got to give him a few more games at least, if we sacked our managers every time we lost at Goodson we would have a pretty rapid turnaround. We actually played better than I thought we would today by the sound of it.

 

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14 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Got to give him a few more games at least, if we sacked our managers every time we lost at Goodson we would have a pretty rapid turnaround. We actually played better than I thought we would today by the sound of it.

 

Isn’t that half the problem though? We do play some decent stuff but we are so pathetically weak defensively that it’s all a bit pointless. If we were just shit it would probably be a bit easier to swallow but we’re not, first half today we were good. Then another error got them back in the game, handed them the momentum and it was the same old story. Same story same mistakes over and over again. 

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15 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Isn’t that half the problem though? We do play some decent stuff but we are so pathetically weak defensively that it’s all a bit pointless. If we were just shit it would probably be a bit easier to swallow but we’re not, first half today we were good. Then another error got them back in the game, handed them the momentum and it was the same old story. Same story same mistakes over and over again. 

Exhibit number 5,675,865 of this exact same thing happening under Ralph, would love to see points per game 1st half vs 2nd half under Ralph. 

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56 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Got to give him a few more games at least, if we sacked our managers every time we lost at Goodson we would have a pretty rapid turnaround. We actually played better than I thought we would today by the sound of it.

 

That’s what irks me the most. I think the team is easily good enough to be in that 10th-14th pocket but Ralph sabotages nearly every game with either bizarre selections (McCarthy, Theo etc) or stands like a deer in the headlights when we are getting overrun. 

When will he get it into his thick skull that even the most well drilled team still needs a tweak here or there during the game.

 

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I’m a little flabbergasted how we are having exactly the same conversations on here as we have been for months and still some people think RH will turn it around. He won’t and if we are to survive then a change will be needed. For me this will happen before the international break in November - if it doesn’t we’ll be cut adrift.

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12 hours ago, TWar said:

We played a good first half and threw it away with individual errors against a good side. The meltdown was predictable but still not worthy of suggesting things like bringing in Big Sam or Eddie Howe

You’ll defend him until the cow come home. Playing well for a half just isn’t good enough. Something clearly isn’t working. Defensively he’s clueless. 
 

He may and probably will go on to be a decent manager for someone else, but with our squad, he’s not the right man. 
 

The club are balls deep into Ralph, they won’t want to pull the trigger, but sooner rather than later they’ll have to. I’m giving him 9 more games, if that. 

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Time must be running out for him. It's a miracle he survived last season. He doesn't help himself with the bizarre selections from yesterday. I want him to do well but this year has been dire, and it's difficult to see him turning things around, which is partly due to the resources available. A lot of it hinges on who we sign at CB, 

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1 hour ago, bangkoksaint said:

I’m a little flabbergasted how we are having exactly the same conversations on here as we have been for months and still some people think RH will turn it around. He won’t and if we are to survive then a change will be needed. For me this will happen before the international break in November - if it doesn’t we’ll be cut adrift.

Yep. My position is the same as last season. He's a one trick pony. He sets teams up well. The opposition adapt to it. He has no idea what to do next. We lose. 

Giving him chance after chance isn't going to change anything. 

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Just now, egg said:

Yep. My position is the same as last season. He's a one trick pony. He sets teams up well. The opposition adapt to it. He has no idea what to do next. We lose. 

Giving him chance after chance isn't going to change anything. 

Agreed. He should have been sacked last season. 13 out of 14 losses on the road this year. He is tactically naive to put it nicely. I was laughing before the season started reading some of the optimistic comments on here from some of the happy clappers. Not sure there is any reason for optimism - Ralph has certainly not changed or improved or learnt any lessons from the dreadful performances he served us up last year. 

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11 hours ago, MAY-Z said:

Exhibit number 5,675,865 of this exact same thing happening under Ralph, would love to see points per game 1st half vs 2nd half under Ralph. 

Not quite "points per half", but take a look at my post on the previous page.

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Starting Walcott was a clear sign he has lost the plot.... He's been piss poor for ages and nowhere near a premier League player yet he started.  Ralph must have had input in the signing of him too letting sentimentality take over, can see him sticking with him too as in Ralph's mafia club once your in your in! 

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