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I think the big question is do we have any bottle to turn this around. No one's shown any all season....

 

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no we do not. and we will not have the best catering when we go down either. When it rains....

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I still don’t blame Ralph. The players are simply not good enough.

It’s also his job to motivate the players. How many players on that pitch look bothered?

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Are we the worst team in Premier league history? Quite possibly. Is it worth watching the second half? I think we all know how it ends

 

If we don't win, officially yes. No team in the history of top flight football (all 130 years plus) has failed to win any of their opening 7 fixtures. Another record about to be broken.

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There are only a handful of players that look like they care most games (not judging on talent as that is how poor we are). Ings, JWP, maybe Redmond, maybe romeu. No opinion on Obafemi who is just out of his depth. Rest go through games drifting with the occasional good performance

 

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I still don’t blame Ralph. The players are simply not good enough.

 

Likewise. He's made some fairly questionable decisions this year, but this team is bottom 6 *whoever* the manager is, and will eventually have a bottom 3 season. Almost every position on the pitch is lacking in some capacity...there aren't many strong points on an individual level - most of these players would probably get by in a Prem squad if there were 3/4 quality players to base them around, but there simply aren't anymore.

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Agree. I hope we can keep him when we go down.

 

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There is no scenario on earth that has Hasenhutl managing us in the Championship. Pie in the sky.

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He’s not toast. We can’t afford to sack him. Obvs

 

 

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Put him on gardening leave. I will do the job for free and get the same results. 2 wins from what 20 now? I could do that!

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Sherwood and Curbishly ripping us a new one on DAZN.

 

“At home vs bottom team and they just lump hopeful balls forward? Not good enough!”.

 

“Need to be brave, grab game by scruff of the neck”.

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If he can't motivate these players how is he going to motivate the players that don't jump ship in the championship?

 

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He's got a track record of getting hard working professionals to play way above their station.

 

There's maybe 2 or 3 players in this squad I would describe as hard working professionals.

 

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I can’t get overly emotional about them tbh. If they aren’t good enough, they aren’t good enough. Watford are poor but still a PL side, this Saints side have dodged a bullet the last two years and would be in the bottom three of the Champ as well. When you are effectively a lower league side, you have to put in a cup final level of effort to compete or cause a huge upset like they nearly did last week every week and they can’t do that.

 

How many consistently PL standard players has SFC got? Ings is the only one really, Boufal, Romeu and Redmond on their days. PEH solid Championship, JWP do a job at that level mid table for say Bristol City. Berty lost his appetite for the game as has Cedric. Vesty Champ/L1, Stephens L1, Long Champ, Obafemi National League, seriously, Gary Johnson has better loan players at Torquay from Bristol City. He is no better than Tyreke Johnson on loan at Woking.

 

I’d like to at least see some hard work second half and try and cause a shock against higher level opposition. At least work for the shirt swapping at the end which seems to be the highlight.

 

The club just needs to do what it’s going to do if Gao doesn’t sell up and see if we still have a club left at the end of it. What happens inbetween is irrelevant really.

 

I know we’re **** and going down but that’s a load of ********.

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Given that the Saints defence is so shaky, slow and prone to errors why on earth do they receive so many passes back from the midfield?

 

Djenepo seems to have a look around him and has decided that he'll have to try and do the job on his own. At least have a go at them.

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The players just don't look that bothered really, sauntering off at half-time.

 

Why would they be?

 

They’ll get a nice wad of cash and go home in their Ferraris to **** their hot wives. They’ll get a new club, they don’t care about SFC like we do.

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Sherwood and Curbishly ripping us a new one on DAZN.

 

“At home vs bottom team and they just lump hopeful balls forward? Not good enough!”.

 

“Need to be brave, grab game by scruff of the neck”.

 

They’re totally right.

 

Absolute bottlejobs. Horrible team, full of vacuous virtue signalling empty platitudes but no substance.

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Let's be honest, any team in this league starting with Stephens and Bednarek as CB's is likely to struggle. That is just such a wincingly weak pairing, so so weak.

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I don't see how you can not blame Ralph, at least to some extent. If you blamed Puel, Pelligino, and Hughes, then why would Ralph get a pass.

Frankly I'm starting to see the smarts is Puel anyway. He played a style that they thought we could win with (given our players), even if it was crap. Better than forcing a style we have not hope of doing.

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It makes no difference how long there is to go in the season. This has been the same since the season started, absolutely dire.

There is nothing that can happen to change things around now. If the players aren't showing fight, passion and an understanding of where they are by now then there is nothing that can make these players and this team avoid relegation.

They will still get paid.

Those people saying we shouldn't judge until we've played everyone once, not to panic until February or March, when exactly will it sink in that this team is shockingly bad and are incapable of turning things around.

I thought Ralph may be able to do something but now, no.

It doesn't make a difference if we win this match, the evidence is there before everyone to see.

It's as bad as it can get.

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I don't care if we get picked off on the break by piling forward - what annoys me most is the spineless tossers can't even be positive on the ball and give the strikers some service. We just go sideways and backwards the whole time. The big problem is that Deulofeu has not started playing yet, once we do, we are in big trouble. 0-3 at the end.

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The players just don't look that bothered really, sauntering off at half-time.

 

 

They just aren’t good enough to compete at this level and they know it. Ings is the only one really who is. I think they might just about survive in the Champ if they worked hard with a cup final mentality but they are realistically top six League One on stupid wages because of that old fool. I agree the work rate isn’t good enough though, and if they try and play open football even against Norwich it’ll be heavy defeat. I don’t like playing direct but it’s the only way with this team. They can’t pass water.

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The players just don't look that bothered really, sauntering off at half-time.

 

 

They just aren’t good enough to compete at this level and they know it. If they came up against our L1 and Champ promotion sides it would be Leicester all over again. Ings is the only one really who is. I think they might just about survive in the Champ if they worked hard with a cup final mentality but they are realistically top six League One on stupid wages because of that old fool. I agree the work rate isn’t good enough though, and if they try and play open football even against Norwich it’ll be heavy defeat. I don’t like playing direct but it’s the only way with this team. They can’t pass water.

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He's got a track record of getting hard working professionals to play way above their station.

 

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Burley got Ipswich into 5th or something in their 1st season in the PL. Maybe we should get him in?

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No changes at HT? WTF?

 

 

It’s the last thing Watford think we’ll do. Like Blackadder.

 

Nelson is stationed in Alaska, just in case Bony tricks him by coming via the North Pole...

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I would bring Shane Long on for Obafemi. That’s how bad he is. But Long will at least provide a bit of running

 

 

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He's got a track record of getting hard working professionals to play way above their station.

 

There's maybe 2 or 3 players in this squad I would describe as hard working professionals.

 

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Yup & he hasn't improved them either

 

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That from Ward Prowse was utterly abysmal. Just get him off

 

 

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I've stopped watching it here at work because a) my Sky Go stream is crap, b) Saints are crap and c) watching Saints is winding me up which is making me irritable when dealing with my customers.

 

Maybe that's the catalyst we need to win this and go on an unbeaten winning run. :p

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Is Mourinho the only manager in the PL that changes things around as soon as he realises things aren't working out rather than waiting for the clock to reach an arbitrary time before changing things?

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So so slow and ponderous. Where’s the passion, the relentlessness?

 

We’re just one big red and white plodding giveaway machine. This is up there with one of the worst matches I’ve ever had the misfortune of watching.

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When was the last time we actually won at home last season? Getting sick and tired of hearing commentators go on about our supporters when we have given them good atmospheres and it made zero difference.

 

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