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I still think we are way to reliant on Ings getting goals. Long and obafemi aren’t good enough and the jury is out on Adams.

Seen today that Origi is being chased by a number of the teams we’ll be competing with come the end of the season (villa, Newcastle, Fulham, Brighton).

doubt he’d be cheap (within our budget) but would love us to make a move for him. I think him and ings would give us a real threat up top. 
 

 

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37 minutes ago, SKD said:

I still think we are way to reliant on Ings getting goals. Long and obafemi aren’t good enough and the jury is out on Adams.

Seen today that Origi is being chased by a number of the teams we’ll be competing with come the end of the season (villa, Newcastle, Fulham, Brighton).

doubt he’d be cheap (within our budget) but would love us to make a move for him. I think him and ings would give us a real threat up top. 
 

 

Wouldn't be terrible but we're not going to sign another striker this window.

 

RLC was awful last night, not keen on him based on that showing but we know he has potential. I'm not sure he would do too well in a high-energy defensive/box-to-box role we would want him for though.

Still 3 weeks left of the window, plenty of time for at least a couple of "will he, won't he" transfer sagas!

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1 hour ago, woodsaint1 said:

Wondering if our reported interest in Koopmeiners is dependent on AZs Champs League progress. Lost 2-0 away to Dynamo Kiev. No champions league money could force their hand

Our reported interest was almost certainly rubbish, given we have heard nothing since. Can always hope though.

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Argh, can we just find someone under the age of 24 who is tall enough to head the ball, athletic enough to run with it into space when it opens up and adventurous enough to play a forward pass when it's on? Stick a pin in any French Ligue 1 club and you'll probably have at least one central midfielder fitting the bill.

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32 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said:

Argh, can we just find someone under the age of 24 who is tall enough to head the ball, athletic enough to run with it into space when it opens up and adventurous enough to play a forward pass when it's on? Stick a pin in any French Ligue 1 club and you'll probably have at least one central midfielder fitting the bill.

I think after Carillo and Boufal, I'd fear anything to come from that league unless they're heavily sought after.

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53 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

I think after Carillo and Boufal, I'd fear anything to come from that league unless they're heavily sought after.

Key would be to buy someone who was actually French (ideally having gone through Clairefontaine).

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2 hours ago, verlaine1979 said:

Argh, can we just find someone under the age of 24 who is tall enough to head the ball, athletic enough to run with it into space when it opens up and adventurous enough to play a forward pass when it's on? Stick a pin in any French Ligue 1 club and you'll probably have at least one central midfielder fitting the bill.

Nice are looking to sell Wylan Cyprien. He was linked with us a few years back, under Puel I think. He's a 'goal-scoring' defensive midfielder. Had a bad injury over a year ago but came back from that. Linked with Bordeaux amongst others and was linked with Newcastle and Arsenal in the Prem in more recent times. Could be a shout.

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4 hours ago, Cartman said:

Paris is in Morocco is it?

What Cartman is trying to say but in bytesize posts: "Boufal plays for Morocco due to his heritage but was born in France."

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2 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

Spurs seem to have lost the plot if Bale is the answer . £300k / week if Real pay half his "wages" , injury prone and over 30 plus a manager happy to blame the players when they lose .

Personally, I don’t see the harm in calling your players out.  They should be man enough to take criticism on the chin.  They’re happy to be publicly lauded.

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2 hours ago, East Kent Saint said:

Spurs seem to have lost the plot if Bale is the answer . £300k / week if Real pay half his "wages" , injury prone and over 30 plus a manager happy to blame the players when they lose .

It's an absolutely typical Mourinho signing. Big name player from a big club, over the hill, huge wages. However, this could potentially work out for them if he's managed correctly. Bale is a big game player and that's where Spurs have struggled over the last 3-4 years.

 

It will still be crazy money though for a player that will play 15 games a season.

London's golf courses will be glad to have him though!

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You have to wonder though whether his 'fitness issues' are in part to do with not really being wanted and whether they will clear up somewhere where he feels happy. As I understand it he's been fit to play most of last season but Zidane just froze him out. 

He seems to manage to be fit for Wales most of the time. 

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On 15/09/2020 at 10:41, SKD said:

I still think we are way to reliant on Ings getting goals. Long and obafemi aren’t good enough and the jury is out on Adams.

Seen today that Origi is being chased by a number of the teams we’ll be competing with come the end of the season (villa, Newcastle, Fulham, Brighton).

doubt he’d be cheap (within our budget) but would love us to make a move for him. I think him and ings would give us a real threat up top. 
 

 

Origi would be great, either deputising for Ings, or playing alongside him.

Alex Iwobi would be useful, deputising for Armstrong, although Walcott could play both RM and out and out ST, however he's over 30 now.

Other observations :

Villa paying a £20M deal for an Arsenal reserve keeper - wow.

Doumbia - read the reports of him, but also that he couldn't get a UK work permit. Still think Jefferson Lerma is the one we should go for.

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12 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

Origi would be great, either deputising for Ings, or playing alongside him.

Alex Iwobi would be useful, deputising for Armstrong, although Walcott could play both RM and out and out ST, however he's over 30 now.

Other observations :

Villa paying a £20M deal for an Arsenal reserve keeper - wow.

Doumbia - read the reports of him, but also that he couldn't get a UK work permit. Still think Jefferson Lerma is the one we should go for.

£20 million for Martinez is about right in my opinion. He looked quality at Arsenal last season. 

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47 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

Origi would be great, either deputising for Ings, or playing alongside him.

Alex Iwobi would be useful, deputising for Armstrong, although Walcott could play both RM and out and out ST, however he's over 30 now.

Other observations :

Villa paying a £20M deal for an Arsenal reserve keeper - wow.

Doumbia - read the reports of him, but also that he couldn't get a UK work permit. Still think Jefferson Lerma is the one we should go for.

Iwobi cost Everton something like £35m last year, we'd have to fork out close to that to get him. And I think they overspent massivley.

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I've never worked out if Walcott has ever actually been a good footballer. Burst on the scene, lightening quick in his youth, some good finishes......but equally you watch him run with the ball and pass it like he's never kicked a ball in his life....

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13 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

I’d be happier if we were connected to a decent DM.

I'd be happier if we signed one, rather than read what some wannabee-journo has posted on social media, that has less chance than me getting off with Lily James.

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44 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Iwobi cost Everton something like £35m last year, we'd have to fork out close to that to get him. And I think they overspent massivley.

 

20 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I've never worked out if Walcott has ever actually been a good footballer. Burst on the scene, lightening quick in his youth, some good finishes......but equally you watch him run with the ball and pass it like he's never kicked a ball in his life....

Iwobi - yeah, you're right. I thought it was £17M, but google confirms your figure. Suggested that Everton will be discarding a few players and Iwobi is named. Offer £15M and see it we catch a fish?

Walcott - is so fast he's a sprinter, and that inhibits his ball-playing skills. To play to his strengths, you have to pass it ten yards ahead of him and make him run onto it. There's still a player in there, but I don't think Arsenal or Everton have played to his strength.

 

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32 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

I’d be happier if we were connected to a decent DM.

It’s a strange one because whilst McKennie was too pricey, it at least showed we’d seemingly targeted a high quality centre-mid... But the trail has run cold since.

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15 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

It’s a strange one because whilst McKennie was too pricey, it at least showed we’d seemingly targeted a high quality centre-mid... But the trail has run cold since.

Just hoping that we have something up our sleeve esp with RH’s recent comments.

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1 hour ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I've never worked out if Walcott has ever actually been a good footballer. Burst on the scene, lightening quick in his youth, some good finishes......but equally you watch him run with the ball and pass it like he's never kicked a ball in his life....

My feeling with walcott was he needed to play down the middle. Opened up both sides for him meaning more options.  I htink Wenger planned for him to be the next Henry so started him wide with a view to brining him omore centrl as he progressed. Big mistake i think and huge waste of a talent.  One more year at saints couldve done him so much good in that regard perhaps as people saw him in more 1v1 situation rather than as a winger. Who knows though i suppose  

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46 minutes ago, Saint Troy said:

My feeling with walcott was he needed to play down the middle. Opened up both sides for him meaning more options.  I htink Wenger planned for him to be the next Henry so started him wide with a view to brining him omore centrl as he progressed. Big mistake i think and huge waste of a talent.  One more year at saints couldve done him so much good in that regard perhaps as people saw him in more 1v1 situation rather than as a winger. Who knows though i suppose  

He was growing in to quite a player during the 12/13 season, then had a badish injury and it seemed to stop him dead in his tracks.  Been a sort of "Ok" player ever since.

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1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Just hoping that we have something up our sleeve esp with RH’s recent comments.

Semmens also on TSP was pretty adamant that we would still do something. He suggested our plan was to get Salisu and KWP done early and then see how the market developed later on. The thinking seemed to be that Covid will impact other leagues more than the PL and that prices will be reduced near to the end of the window as clubs face the financial realities.

Ralph certainly seemed frustrated about it all when asked in the pre Palace presser, but he seemed generally annoyed as had just found out Armstrong was injured.

Lets just hope that he gets what he wants - we haven't really given him a lot in the market so far, and generally he is working with the same squad we had when he arrived. 

Hope we get two more (centre mid and versatile attacking mid) but think it will just be the first. Then, lets hope its not another Danso, who was clearly way down the list of CBs we wanted.

Would say a few mid table sides have recruited very well so far: Everton, Palace, Newcastle, Villa so its important to keep improving.

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3 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

£20 million for Martinez is about right in my opinion. He looked quality at Arsenal last season. 

About right? He played about nine games. Before that he was a journeyman forever loaned out for unimpressive spells at championship clubs. 

With a year on his contract, he'd have left for sub £2m. 

His value has wildly inflated on the basis of not much more than a cameo. 

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10 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

About right? He played about nine games. Before that he was a journeyman forever loaned out for unimpressive spells at championship clubs. 

With a year on his contract, he'd have left for sub £2m. 

His value has wildly inflated on the basis of not much more than a cameo. 

If we were selling him yes...think it's overpriced in reality, but in today's market it's probably fair enough. Good keeper too.

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The problem with being an eternal optimist is i see all these players our competitors are buying of who i know nothing about and think they must be mustard and we are falling behind.

Transfer window has never been the same since #ziyechwatch ended.

Not a sniff of a midfielder in the dutch or german press or forums, when will it be our turn to have a foreign name with a large number against it in the paper again.

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I thought they were linked with Brewster for 25mil from Liverpool (at least he has played in the championship) as the scousers seem to be upset about it but Arsenal are having a laugh 10mil for a under 23 who has never played first team football with 1 yr left.

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59 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

The problem with being an eternal optimist is i see all these players our competitors are buying of who i know nothing about and think they must be mustard and we are falling behind.

Transfer window has never been the same since #ziyechwatch ended.

Not a sniff of a midfielder in the dutch or german press or forums, when will it be our turn to have a foreign name with a large number against it in the paper again.

It does seem a long time ago since we had an exciting signing. Salisu looks like a decent signibg to be fair but I'm not going to get excited about a defender. 

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