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16 minutes ago, Saint J 77 said:

Is there even a little bit of hope that there might be some real interest from a genuine buyer? 

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/52745/does-ld-sports-pulling-out-suggest-takeover-imminent-at-st-marys

After reading the above I was hopeful the sponsor being pulled was the beginning of the end for all the Chinese involvement with the club. 

If we are still stuck with Gao beyond this season I fear it won't be long until the club has to start selling everything that isn't nailed down. 

Based on what exactly??  All we’ve ever heard are rumours, most (if not all) of which are completely baseless

Is Gao the greatest owner ever, no, but I don’t know what he’s done to deserve the level of mistrust he gets on here.  Some crap signings yes, but some great ones too

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3 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

Based on what exactly??  All we’ve ever heard are rumours, most (if not all) of which are completely baseless

Is Gao the greatest owner ever, no, but I don’t know what he’s done to deserve the level of mistrust he gets on here.  Some crap signings yes, but some great ones too

That s because people are racist and make assumptions on chinese.

 

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1 minute ago, Barsiem said:

Based on what exactly??  All we’ve ever heard are rumours, most (if not all) of which are completely baseless

Is Gao the greatest owner ever, no, but I don’t know what he’s done to deserve the level of mistrust he gets on here.  Some crap signings yes, but some great ones too

Goa doesn't make the signings, the success or failure of signings are nothing to do with him. When you look at the club now it's in a much better state than it was 3 years ago.  We have what appears to be a good management team, a very good first team manager and got our identity back as a club. Unfortunately though the management today are paying for the mistakes of yesterday, lumbered with a load of sh*te we cant give away and until the likes of Carillo, Lemina, Hoedt and co are got shot of we will still be hamstrung, that's not Goas fault. Would i prefer someone else as owner, absolutely and it all does appear a bit dodgy, but in truth he hasn't really done much different to how we've been run for years. 

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Goa doesn't make the signings, the success or failure of signings are nothing to do with him. When you look at the club now it's in a much better state than it was 3 years ago.  We have what appears to be a good management team, a very good first team manager and got our identity back as a club. Unfortunately though the management today are paying for the mistakes of yesterday, lumbered with a load of sh*te we cant give away and until the likes of Carillo, Lemina, Hoedt and co are got shot of we will still be hamstrung, that's not Goas fault. Would i prefer someone else as owner, absolutely and it all does appear a bit dodgy, but in truth he hasn't really done much different to how we've been run for years. 

That’s my view as well. If we get owners who want to invest to take us further then great, otherwise Gao is ok and a seems a lot better than some of the other owners out there

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Goa doesn't make the signings, the success or failure of signings are nothing to do with him. When you look at the club now it's in a much better state than it was 3 years ago.  We have what appears to be a good management team, a very good first team manager and got our identity back as a club. Unfortunately though the management today are paying for the mistakes of yesterday, lumbered with a load of sh*te we cant give away and until the likes of Carillo, Lemina, Hoedt and co are got shot of we will still be hamstrung, that's not Goas fault. Would i prefer someone else as owner, absolutely and it all does appear a bit dodgy, but in truth he hasn't really done much different to how we've been run for years. 

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Gao has wanted nothing to do with us since at least the end of last year. 

So presumably the business opportunities he thought would come his way if he owned the football club haven't matarialised then ?

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15 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

So presumably the business opportunities he thought would come his way if he owned the football club haven't matarialised then ?

Certainly buying players for £12m and selling them for £75m plus relegation not existing haven't materialised. 

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5 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

So presumably the business opportunities he thought would come his way if he owned the football club haven't matarialised then ?

I think it's more that the political situation in China has changed. I'm not sure anyone can say with certainty that Gao had much control over the asset anyway. The purchase was very clearly for political reasons more than anything else. 

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The “law” in China changed part way through the purchase . GAO was then unable to use money from China to complete the deal as Xi declared that too much money was leaving the country so GAO then had to borrow money from a source outside China to buy Saints. After that is has been all downhill for GAO.....

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And now the FA have withdrawn from the Chinese TV agreement the money appears to be drying up. However,the 'big' clubs will also suffer financially which ain't no bad thing considering the obscene amounts a couple of them are paying their players.

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2 hours ago, East Kent Saint said:

The “law” in China changed part way through the purchase . GAO was then unable to use money from China to complete the deal as Xi declared that too much money was leaving the country so GAO then had to borrow money from a source outside China to buy Saints. After that is has been all downhill for GAO.....

why didn't he pull put?

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6 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I think it's more that the political situation in China has changed. I'm not sure anyone can say with certainty that Gao had much control over the asset anyway. The purchase was very clearly for political reasons more than anything else. 

You mean the Chinese government don’t want to spend £200m on a football club so they can spend £20b turning the land around it into the European Las Vegas anymore? Who’s have thought it..... 

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10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Think we will be hearing more about this before too long... 

Permission to ask my stock question sir!

If you were to take a punt, how many days/weeks would you say "before too long" is...? I won't hold you to it, honest guv!

Cheers! :)

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

Permission to ask my stock question sir!

If you were to take a punt, how many days/weeks would you say "before too long" is...? I won't hold you to it, honest guv!

Cheers! :)

As with all of these things they are notoriously fluid but I wouldn't be surprised to hear something mid/late October.

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18 minutes ago, benjii said:

My sources tell me that there are some crafty interests in town. 
 

They may be looking to put the cheese on top of the burger soon.

How come everyone has sources? I haven't got any sources....but I would like to get hold of some. Can anyone tell me the best place to get some??

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Just now, miserableoldgit said:

How come everyone has sources? I haven't got any sources....but I would like to get hold of some. Can anyone tell me the best place to get some??

Tesco’s do some wicked ones!

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22 minutes ago, benjii said:

My sources tell me that there are some crafty interests in town. 
 

They may be looking to put the cheese on top of the burger soon.

Robert Kraft rumoured to be interested in buying a team a few years ago. Doesn’t he own the Patriots as well?

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55 minutes ago, Mikey88 said:

Robert Kraft rumoured to be interested in buying a team a few years ago. Doesn’t he own the Patriots as well?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41592525
(interview in 2017)

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Robert Kraft is "still intrigued" by the prospect of buying a Premier League club, but says he is put off by the absence of a salary cap.

The 76-year-old American billionaire, whose family also owns NFL team the New England Patriots and Major League Soccer club New England Revolution, was linked with buying Liverpool in 2005.

"I like to win at whatever I do," he told BBC Sport.

"But without a salary cap I'm concerned that we might be at a disadvantage."

The NFL salary cap - the set amount of money that each of the league's 32 teams is allowed to spend on player salaries - is $167m for 2017.

Former Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry met with Kraft in the United States in 2005, before the Reds were eventually sold to American tycoons George Gillett and Tom Hicks in 2007.

Since 2010 the club has been owned by Fenway Sports Group, which also owns Major League Baseball side Boston Red Sox.

Kraft added: "We helped found MLS in America. Our league here is starting to really develop, and with our soccer team we've gone to the championship game five times in 21 years.

"I'm just concerned in the Premier League that we might not, with all the different ways of operating, we're not as familiar with all of them.

"Let's say people from all over the world come in and buy teams and maybe they have different reasons for doing it and managing it. And you have to compete with that and I'm not sure. But I'm still intrigued."

The good news is that he's got very distinctive earlobes, so should be easy to spot if he ever pops in to West Quay for a bite to eat on one of his reconnaissance trips...

Robert Kraft, New England Patriots owner, charged in human  trafficking/prostitution investigation

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4 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Would the possible new owners somehow be involved with current transfers or have a say?

They probably would of liked Weston McKennie as he would of got the Americans excited.

Any other ones on that side of the water?

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14 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

They probably would of liked Weston McKennie as he would of got the Americans excited.

Any other ones on that side of the water?

Jackson Yueill maybe? 23 year old holding midfielder that has an eye for a forward pass...

 

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On 07/09/2020 at 19:32, hypochondriac said:

As with all of these things they are notoriously fluid but I wouldn't be surprised to hear something mid/late October.

Blink once for Dell, twice for Kraft and thrice for some chancer we’ve never heard of.

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