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On 30/06/2020 at 23:45, Lighthouse said:

It's just one of the Shane Long tropes which seem to get trotted out, without any bearing on the actual game. Like the one about him and Ings being a great pairing when really it's just Ings being a great player and Long happens to be on the pitch. 

Ings himself has stated that playing alongside Long is a pleasure as he takes defenders away and creates space for him...

Ralph on many occasions has used SL for this purpose and unlike you, seems to value his contribution ! For sure, the Watford match was not his best but in the wider scheme of things he still has a role to play and a lot to offer, hence his new contract !

 

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1 hour ago, eurosaint said:

Ings himself has stated that playing alongside Long is a pleasure as he takes defenders away and creates space for him...

Ralph on many occasions has used SL for this purpose and unlike you, seems to value his contribution ! For sure, the Watford match was not his best but in the wider scheme of things he still has a role to play and a lot to offer, hence his new contract !

Well said. Despite his apparent lack of goals, Long is still a good option for us

 

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1 hour ago, eurosaint said:

Ings himself has stated that playing alongside Long is a pleasure as he takes defenders away and creates space for him...

Ralph on many occasions has used SL for this purpose and unlike you, seems to value his contribution ! For sure, the Watford match was not his best but in the wider scheme of things he still has a role to play and a lot to offer, hence his new contract !

 

Plus the interview with PEH a while back where he said the two fastest players he played with were Sané and Long.

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1 hour ago, eurosaint said:

Ings himself has stated that playing alongside Long is a pleasure as he takes defenders away and creates space for him...

Ralph on many occasions has used SL for this purpose and unlike you, seems to value his contribution ! For sure, the Watford match was not his best but in the wider scheme of things he still has a role to play and a lot to offer, hence his new contract !

Absolutely. I struggle to understand how anyone who watches Long play, especially alongside Ings, cannot see how him being on the pitch helps the team. 

 

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On 29/06/2020 at 12:05, SaintBobby said:

We're big underdogs for this one, obviously, but i'm quite tempted by the 10/1 avialble on a Saints win. I put our chances of a win at higher than 9%, I think!

Really?! With our home form I’d probably not even give us a 0.9% chance!

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On 28/06/2020 at 19:32, Lighthouse said:

The away bankiest of away bankers, this one.

It’s getting away bankier by the minute.

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The way city are playing tonight I think it might be closer than I first thought ! 1 nil saints .

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14 hours ago, eurosaint said:

Ings himself has stated that playing alongside Long is a pleasure as he takes defenders away and creates space for him...

Ralph on many occasions has used SL for this purpose and unlike you, seems to value his contribution ! For sure, the Watford match was not his best but in the wider scheme of things he still has a role to play and a lot to offer, hence his new contract !

 

You expect him to talk sh*t about a team mate? Players say all sorts of unlikely things bigging up their colleagues. As for PEH,  I guess he must never have been on the field at the same time as Arjen Robben, who could run as fast or faster than long with the ball under control.

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Thought City would be looking past Liverpool today knowing we were on deck 😀

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They've clearly tired themselves out and will be nervous coming to our fortress.

0-0.

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4-0 v Liverpool. Looks like City intend to start next season on the front foot by humiliating their only rivals at the end of this one.

Let's not be stupid enough to assume that the Bindippers took their collective feet off the gas - "nothing to play for" crap - City looked good and we could be in for a torrid time on Sunday.

Ralph has been so focussed on getting to 40 points that some players might assume that the season's goals have been met.

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Hopefully now they've done the Dippers they'll be fully focussed on the FA Cup and the Champions League. 2-0 Saints (Long, Adams).

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2 hours ago, LaptopSaint said:

Hopefully now they've done the Dippers they'll be fully focussed on the FA Cup and the Champions League. 2-0 Saints (Long, Adams).

Anything is possible of course, though I'll be happy of we can keep a defeat down to a two goal margin.

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A game like this is absolutely a free hit and a heavy loss wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference to our season... however it’s Prime Time on Sunday on the Beeb. We’ve already been spanked once on live TV this season at home, let’s hope for a closer game against City. 3 tough games now, all 3 are in form.

 

Just have to hope City rotate their team a bit and lack cohesion. 3-1 loss though IMO.

 

 

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18 hours ago, LGTL said:

Really?! With our home form I’d probably not even give us a 0.9% chance!

If you're willing to offer me 50/1 or better, I'd  like to place a bet then please. Say £200?

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Posted (edited)

We have more to play for than they do...namely league position.  City are only playing for pride now.  

I think they turned on the gas against Liverpool to prove a point.  Hoping they will be a bit more relaxed against little old Saints.    

Edited by Manuel

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Fair to say we don't have much to lose on Sunday bar a spanking in front of a worldwide TV audience.

RH has a few games to figure out some youngsters though unsure if a home game vs a rampant Man City is a fit 

Would still give Che and Will some game time, they deserve it and seem ready - maybe give Ingsy a little run out from the bench and unleash him at Everton.  

 From the injury reports, looks like we're going to be light on seniors anyway. Front four of Redmond, Amstrong/Moussa, Adams and Long might make for an entertaining game 

COYS

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40 minutes ago, ButtikonSaint said:

Front four of Redmond, Amstrong/Moussa, Adams and Long might make for an entertaining game 

COYS

Our back 4 and gk will make for entertaining game 

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49 minutes ago, ButtikonSaint said:

 

 From the injury reports, looks like we're going to be light on seniors anyway. Front four of Redmond, Amstrong/Moussa, Adams and Long might make for an entertaining game 

COYS

Not looking to score any goals then ?

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1 hour ago, ButtikonSaint said:

Fair to say we don't have much to lose on Sunday bar a spanking in front of a worldwide TV audience.

RH has a few games to figure out some youngsters though unsure if a home game vs a rampant Man City is a fit 

Would still give Che and Will some game time, they deserve it and seem ready - maybe give Ingsy a little run out from the bench and unleash him at Everton.  

 From the injury reports, looks like we're going to be light on seniors anyway. Front four of Redmond, Amstrong/Moussa, Adams and Long might make for an entertaining game 

COYS

I wish I could understand this mentality.  We have 6 games to play in 3 weeks and Ings is in the form of his life and in the running for the Golden Boot.  He's had a week's rest since our last game and he looks the fittest player on the pitch.  Do you seriously think he'll want to make do with a little run out from the bench?

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Posted (edited)

Looks like

McCarthy

KWP Stephens Bednarek Bertrand

Romeu/Smallbone JWP

Armstrong Redmond

Ings Long/Obafemi

Gunn, Danso, Vokins, Smallbone/Romeu, Adams, Long/Obafemi, Djenepo plus random two from Academy.

 

Edited by Shroppie
Decided on balance to include a keeper.

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4 minutes ago, Pip said:

I wish I could understand this mentality.  We have 6 games to play in 3 weeks and Ings is in the form of his life and in the running for the Golden Boot.  He's had a week's rest since our last game and he looks the fittest player on the pitch.  Do you seriously think he'll want to make do with a little run out from the bench?

Agreed, madness to not play Ings if he’s available. 

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Hopefully Adams will be paired with Ings up front ...Romeu and JWP  to continue as the two central mid positions .......KWP will be key in this game ithink.

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Ralph did brilliantly at his press conference, absolutely outstanding. No wonder hacks are queuing up to hear what he has to say and to ask questions.

Good natured, never bristles  and never ducks awkward or clumsy questions.

We are very lucky to have him. Moments to savour.

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16 minutes ago, saintquin said:

We're going to get hammered aren't we! 

Not necessarily. Why do you say that?

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33 minutes ago, saintquin said:

We're going to get hammered aren't we! 

No! This is the first time, and probably the only time, that Saints will play a Premier League match on my birthday. And it's televised! So I am fully expecting to see a spectacle to match the most memorable of games in our history. Something like the 6-3 victory we handed out to their neighbours all those years ago (which I was fortunate enough to be at the Dell to watch). A hatrick for Ings and one apiece for JWP, Armstrong and Adams. 

 

You heard it here first! 

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We will almost certainly lose, but I don't care, for the first time in a while, ever since the dark, dark days of Pellegrino, I feel optimistic again.

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Use this game as a training exercise ready to thrash Bournemouth. But you never know City could have an off day and send out a weak team

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6 hours ago, saintquin said:

We're going to get hammered aren't we! 

Beaten probably, hammered less likely. This is a pre-season friendly. We should be relaxed with nothing to lose, and City have bigger fish to fry coming up.

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I dreamt last night that we were 3 nil down at halftime. Woke up before the second half started... luckily.

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We will lose and in the process set a record for most home defeats in a season. 

But if we somehow manage to achieve a miracle and win at home that will make us mathematically safe? 

Will be nice to avoid conceding too many. 

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3 minutes ago, JRM said:

We will lose and in the process set a record for most home defeats in a season. 

But if we somehow manage to achieve a miracle and win at home that will make us mathematically safe? 

Will be nice to avoid conceding too many. 

Why be bothered about being mathematically safe?

We were safe in Feb.

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2 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

I dreamt last night that we were 3 nil down at halftime. Woke up before the second half started... luckily.

Could happen!

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3 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

I dreamt last night that we were 3 nil down at halftime. Woke up before the second half started... luckily.

Snap but the opposite ha ha ha wtf

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I'm normally the most optimistic Saints fan before games, but after the Liverpool game I really can't see anything other than a defeat here, and lots of City goals. If we can keep the City goal tally below 2 then I'll be a happy man. Obviously I'd love to be proved wrong! Danny will need good service to get shots against them but City are so strong in the midfield, Redmond and Armstrong (or whoever plays wide) will need to be really on it today to get anything forward. My prediction is a 3-1 loss with an Ings goal. Please prove me wrong Saints!!

UTS

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Theyre apparently putting put a completely new back 4. Id say we can get at them with the right tactics....its just keeping them out. Without KDB, Sterling and Aguero....and playing stones in a back 4....surely this game has at least come at the right time for us. We will need to pretend its an away game and play like men posessed though! 

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I think people are forgetting that they would have been a lot more motivated for the Liverpool game. We'll still most likely lose, but don't forget we gave them a tough time at their place shortly after we were destroyed by Leicester when City were still actually in the title race, so no reason to write us off from the word go. 

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Expect us to have a good game but if we're in contention with 15 minutes to go, they have the sort of bench to bring on a couple of world beaters that our tired legs won't be able to handle.  

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Hoping we can get something out of this despite them being formidable. I would take a 1-1 draw with Ingysy scoring again :)

COYR

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McCarthy, Walker-Peters, Stephens, Bednarek, Bertrand, Ward-prowse, Armstrong, Romeu, Redmond, Long and Ings starting in a 4-4-2 line up. According to LiveScore 

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McCarthy

KWP Stephens Bednarek Bertrand

JWP Romeu

Armstrong Redmond

Ings Adams

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

McCarthy, Walker-Peters, Stephens, Bednarek, Bertrand, Ward-prowse, Armstrong, Romeu, Redmond, Long and Ings starting in a 4-4-2 line up. According to LiveScore 

Adams for Long, otherwise this is correct.

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8 English. 1 Scottish, 1 Spanish, 1 Polish.

When was the last time we had that ratio?

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