badgerx16 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 See what happens when you bring Bale on. Link to post Share on other sites
Shroppie Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Shame it means we drop a place. Link to post Share on other sites
davefizzy14 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 1 minute ago, Shroppie said: Shame it means we drop a place. Yes thats annoying, was hoping Tottenham would beat them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Teddeer Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Jose must learn from this - don't bring on Bale when you are leading three nil. Link to post Share on other sites
The Cat Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Hahahaha. 3-0 up early on, game over. Oops. Link to post Share on other sites
qwertyell Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Absolute bottle job from Spurs. That's why they'll never win anything. No leaders. Still, good news about that "midfield general" they signed to shore up things... Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_D Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Ouch. VvD needs surgery on his ACL, likely out for the season. Link to post Share on other sites
trousers Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 8 minutes ago, Shroppie said: Shame it means we drop a place. 6 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Yes thats annoying, was hoping Tottenham would beat them. < MLG Mode > Better to be 11th and 1 point behind Spurs than 10th and 3 points behind them < \ MLG Mode> Link to post Share on other sites
davefizzy14 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Just now, trousers said: < MLG Mode > Better to be 11th and 1 point behind Spurs than 10th and 3 points behind them < \ MLG Mode> True your right there Trousers. Link to post Share on other sites
tajjuk Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Ouch. VvD needs surgery on his ACL, likely out for the season. Was going to happen, they have been incredibly lucky with injuries to key players over the last two seasons. The likes of VVD, Robertson, TAA, Mane and Salah have barely missed a game, whilst City have had long periods without players like Laporte, De Bruyne and Aguero. Going to test their squad depth, especially as I have never really been that convinced of Gomez. Shocking tackle by Pickford though, how that wasn't a red I don't know regardless of the injury suffered it was reckless and always likely to cause an injury. If Liverpool don't win the title they are probably going to be talking about that Everton game for ages, winner ruled out for an imaginary offside and their best player injured for the season. ------------------------- Also got to be the season that Kane leaves Spurs if they don't win anything, he does everything for them and the rest still let him down. Edited October 18 by tajjuk Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_D Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 6 minutes ago, tajjuk said: Was going to happen, they have been incredibly lucky with injuries to key players over the last two seasons. The likes of VVD, Robertson, TAA, Mane and Salah have barely missed a game, whilst City have had long periods without players like Laporte, De Bruyne and Aguero. Going to test their squad depth, especially as I have never really been that convinced of Gomez. Shocking tackle by Pickford though, how that wasn't a red I don't know regardless of the injury suffered it was reckless and always likely to cause an injury. If Liverpool don't win the title they are probably going to be talking about that Everton game for ages, winner ruled out for an imaginary offside and their best player injured for the season. Out for the season is probably the best case scenario for Liverpool. Obviously he’ll have the best treatment available, but even so, it’s possibly career threatening. Link to post Share on other sites
egg Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 4 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Out for the season is probably the best case scenario for Liverpool. Obviously he’ll have the best treatment available, but even so, it’s possibly career threatening. Bit dramatic, ACL injuries are rarely career threatening. McQueen's is the exception to the norm. Link to post Share on other sites
HarvSFC Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 The last time Van Dijk had a long lay off he was out meeting other teams’ managers in Blackpool. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Toadhall Saint Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 11 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: The last time Van Dijk had a long lay off he was out meeting other teams’ managers in Blackpool. Yep 🤬 he’ll probably have a meeting in Spain somewhere lined up post op. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Clarke Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 21 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Out for the season is probably the best case scenario for Liverpool. Obviously he’ll have the best treatment available, but even so, it’s possibly career threatening. Probably more career limiting, rather than threatening I'd say. He'll certainly never be at the level he was back in 2018/2019. But he'll still play at the top level for a few more years I'd say. Will be interesting to see if Liverpool go big in January to replace, I think they'll have to. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 37 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: The last time Van Dijk had a long lay off he was out meeting other teams’ managers in Blackpool. And it took him way too long to return. Piss take. Link to post Share on other sites
East Kent Saint Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 I’ll be surprised if VVD ever reaches his best form after this injury. Can’t think of any other players that have but maybe I can’t think past JRod ! Shearer was never as good after his Achilles went ... Link to post Share on other sites
WALK DMC Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 33 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: I’ll be surprised if VVD ever reaches his best form after this injury. Can’t think of any other players that have but maybe I can’t think past JRod ! Shearer was never as good after his Achilles went ... How about Danny Ings ? 😀 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 38 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: I’ll be surprised if VVD ever reaches his best form after this injury. Can’t think of any other players that have but maybe I can’t think past JRod ! Shearer was never as good after his Achilles went ... Van Nistelrooy sticks out in my mind, when he did his ACL in training at PSV. Pushed his move to United back a year I think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wurzel Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, Teddeer said: Jose must learn from this - don't bring on Bale when you are leading three nil. Didn't it take something like 24 appearances for them first time round before he got his first win? You'd think 3-0 up with 20 minutes left it was a pretty safe re-debut 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
Dellman Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Probably more career limiting, rather than threatening I'd say. He'll certainly never be at the level he was back in 2018/2019. But he'll still play at the top level for a few more years I'd say. Will be interesting to see if Liverpool go big in January to replace, I think they'll have to. they can have one of Bednarek, Stephens or Vest at £45m Link to post Share on other sites
badgerx16 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Still no 0-0 so far this season in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites
OttawaSaint Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Bah, lost 2 clean sheets in stoppage time for FPL today (Justin and Guaita). Link to post Share on other sites
SaintBobby Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 This season is nuts. I’m starting to think we might get a wildcard winner of the league. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
saintwbu Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Anyone still think crowds don’t make a difference? When people say 32,000 people groaning can affect the team, I think the current results suggest they may have a point.. Link to post Share on other sites
GDog07 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Cannot believe Aston Villa were a few mins from being relegated last season and now they’re cruising, 100%, 4/4 unbeaten. Madness. Everton fans’ll be getting restless thinking it ain’t their year after all with Villa about to motor past them 🤣🙄 Link to post Share on other sites
CB Fry Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 30 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Anyone still think crowds don’t make a difference? When people say 32,000 people groaning can affect the team, I think the current results suggest they may have a point.. Not sure anyone ever said that crowds didn't make a difference in the first place. Everyone knows that football without crowds is a different proposition. This season is generating randomised results because its not much more than a series of training day kickabouts. All we need to do is stay on the right side of things and keep getting those points in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites
John Boy Saint Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Just as aside I saw Southampton FC Women progressed with ease in the WFA Cup qualifying round breezing past Helston albeit 3 divisions below them 11-0, they are a pretty ruthless team that don't seem to know how to take their foot off the gas - just a shame the league was cancelled on them last season as they are currently playing well above the standard of the league they are in. Also it seems La Liga is a bit weird too, Real Madrid had an upset at home over the weekend with newly promoted Cadiz scoring in the 16th minute and hold out for the win. The La Liga top 4 looks different right now Real are top, Getafe (beat Barcelona) Cadiz, Granada - Barcelona down in 9th Link to post Share on other sites
East Kent Saint Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Ings had an ACL then further knee surgery which led him to miss 85 games for Liverpool ! It's taken several years for him to return to form but what a loan/buy success although we wern't all convinced when he arrived !!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 16 hours ago, saintwbu said: Anyone still think crowds don’t make a difference? When people say 32,000 people groaning can affect the team, I think the current results suggest they may have a point.. No, the psychology of playing in front of their own fans is what affected our team. I’ve seen plenty of games where the crowd was nothing but supportive or at worst indifferent to the team on the pitch and the still managed to bottle it. Crowds clearly make a difference, I think the lack of them is encouraging attacking players to take more risks, be more creative and not play it safe so much. This is turn is leading to more goals scored. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 From the highlights: Sheff Utd vs Fulham looked surprisingly good. Link to post Share on other sites
whelk Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Wonder how many £14.95s have been handed over for WBA V Burnley 530pm on a Monday evening? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
John Boy Saint Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 13 minutes ago, whelk said: Wonder how many £14.95s have been handed over for WBA V Burnley 530pm on a Monday evening? Be interesting to know the results for the whole weekends PPV - tonights 5:30 game I can imagine would be pretty low, bit like our game v Burnley probably was at 8pm on a Saturday night, only die hards would be watching it especially up against the main channel Saturday night family big guns. interestingly Newcastle fans boycotted their PPV game and apparently raised over £20k donating the £14.95 to a local food bank charity, the most they have collected from matchday collections outside the ground is £5,800, amazingly they had donations from outside the UK too. Seeing the result bet quite a few were glad they didn't watch it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54597058 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Le God Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 15 hours ago, John Boy Saint said: interestingly Newcastle fans boycotted their PPV game and apparently raised over £20k donating the £14.95 to a local food bank charity, the most they have collected from matchday collections outside the ground is £5,800, amazingly they had donations from outside the UK too. Seeing the result bet quite a few were glad they didn't watch it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54597058 Not in large numbers they didn't. £20k is only 1,300 fans paying £15. It is a nice gesture, but wasn't anywhere near a significant part of their fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites
saintwbu Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Not in large numbers they didn't. £20k is only 1,300 fans paying £15. It is a nice gesture, but wasn't anywhere near a significant part of their fanbase. That’s just who donated - it doesn’t mean only 1,300 boycotted the PPV Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Garrett Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Not in large numbers they didn't. £20k is only 1,300 fans paying £15. It is a nice gesture, but wasn't anywhere near a significant part of their fanbase. Does it matter? Still a significant amount of money raised to the charity...fair play to the 1,300. Link to post Share on other sites
SaveloyMush Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 On 19/10/2020 at 14:18, Lighthouse said: No, the psychology of playing in front of their own fans is what affected our team. I’ve seen plenty of games where the crowd was nothing but supportive or at worst indifferent to the team on the pitch and the still managed to bottle it. Crowds clearly make a difference, I think the lack of them is encouraging attacking players to take more risks, be more creative and not play it safe so much. This is turn is leading to more goals scored. I tend to agree, but why is this not being replicated in other major leagues (accepting that the natural order of La Liga has been somewhat disrupted thus far)? Link to post Share on other sites
Shroppie Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 That's Villa's bubble burst, then. Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Hopefully that’s Villa’s bubble burst, before we play them next weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 1 minute ago, Shroppie said: That's Villa's bubble burst, then. Great minds think alike. Sadly my mind is shit so, I don’t know, maybe get a CT scan? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
whelk Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Some decent games today although Fulham V Palce not great at 3pm. Then noticed El Classico at 3. Link to post Share on other sites
Verbal Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 14 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Great minds think alike. Sadly my mind is shit so, I don’t know, maybe get a CT scan? I think you'll find the expression is: Feeble minds seldom differ. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Cat Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, whelk said: Some decent games today although Fulham V Palce not great at 3pm. Then noticed El Classico at 3. Don't worry about that, Sholing vs Torquay is the big 3pm game today. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_D Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 See Crystal Palace have 5 games in a row on PPV, including today. Absolutely shafting fans of the teams that don’t get shown on TV almost every week. Link to post Share on other sites
SaintBobby Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Am I missing something on this PPV thing. Aren't they matches which otherwise probably wouldnt be shown? If so, you're no worse off. You can choose to pay £15 to watch it if you want, but you wouldn't have been able to watch it as part of your normal Sky?BT package anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Saint_clark Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 14 minutes ago, SaintBobby said: Am I missing something on this PPV thing. Aren't they matches which otherwise probably wouldnt be shown? If so, you're no worse off. You can choose to pay £15 to watch it if you want, but you wouldn't have been able to watch it as part of your normal Sky?BT package anyway. Yep exactly right. The PPV is there as a replacement for fans who would otherwise have attended the game. Link to post Share on other sites
FairWeather Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 VVV Venlo losing 0-12 at home to Ajax (only in 82nd minute too) Ha! We've been eclipsed. Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 8 minutes ago, FairWeather said: VVV Venlo losing 0-12 at home to Ajax (only in 82nd minute too) Ha! We've been eclipsed. Southampton lost by 9 to Leic... YEAH WELL VVV LOST 13-0 TO AJAX!!!111!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy_D Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 36 minutes ago, SaintBobby said: Am I missing something on this PPV thing. Aren't they matches which otherwise probably wouldnt be shown? If so, you're no worse off. You can choose to pay £15 to watch it if you want, but you wouldn't have been able to watch it as part of your normal Sky?BT package anyway. The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product. Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment. Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected. Link to post Share on other sites
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