Sheaf Saint Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 Christ, that is a depressing read. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 He needs to drop his asking price by at least £50m. At least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 I blame 1 man. Dalian Wanda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 3 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: I blame 1 man. Dalian Wanda. I blame Marco Polo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 I blame it on the boogie! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 The Falklands war must share some of the blame surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 4 hours ago, JustinSFC said: He needs to drop his asking price by at least £50m. At least. If he does that he is quite literally putting his neck in a noose, according to the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 47 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I blame it on the boogie! One of your better ones, well played MLG ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, waylander said: If he does that he is quite literally putting his neck in a noose, according to the article. In which case their authorities might be even harsher - from a duffing up to something rather nastier - if exposed to the risk of relegation, which is very high next year. £150m better than £0 under interrogation by the PRC police. Also, have their authorities considered that a significant part of the reason clubs are making huge losses is a virus probably originating in Wuhan province? Typical politicians. Les and Ross didn’t help either at club level but the pandemic has had a huge impact across Europe. Edited 25 May, 2021 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 I blame it on Redmond...or Stephens .... or whoever is today's whipping boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 22 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: I blame it on Redmond...or Stephens .... or whoever is today's whipping boy. Don't forget that this weeks whipping boy is tomorrows indispensable player..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 49 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: I blame it on Redmond...or Stephens .... or whoever is today's whipping boy. Errr its djenepo today 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, Streaky said: Errr its djenepo today I thought it was Diallo. Ridiculous that these players who are still under 23 aren't already mega-consistent megastars! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 1 hour ago, TWar said: Ridiculous that these players who are still under 23 aren't already mega-consistent megastars! I call this the inverse straw-man argument; when people try to argue against the polar opposite, as if it's a binary choice between those two options. Not only is Djenepo not consistent, he is inert and stationary at the other end of the scale, no closer to being a PL quality player than the day he arrived. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 23 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Apart from promotion to the top flight, 4 top 8 finishes, 2 European campaigns and a cup final, what did she ever do for us? You mean the people her father brought in to run the club? All she did was keep them in place for a few years before ripping everything apart and bringing in the clown car. Our success was thanks to Markus, Cortese and Mitchell, our decline thanks to her and her incompetent minions. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 (edited) How did Marcus interview Koeman, from his grave or via séance? Edited 26 May, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cartman said: You mean the people her father brought in to run the club? All she did was keep them in place for a few years before ripping everything apart and bringing in the clown car. Our success was thanks to Markus, Cortese and Mitchell, our decline thanks to her and her incompetent minions. The three you mention left/died before our best season. A season where famously we had to completely rebuild the side. Those three did good stuff but Koeman, VvD, Mane, Tadic ect. were Les Reed moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TWar said: The three you mention left/died before our best season. A season where famously we had to completely rebuild the side. Those three did good stuff but Koeman, VvD, Mane, Tadic ect. were Les Reed moves. Bit fanciful to give Reed credit for Mane and Tadic. They were 100% Koeman signings. No black box bullshit there. Edited 26 May, 2021 by Wade Garrett Sausage finger typing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 Just now, Wade Garrett said: Not fanciful to give Reed credit for Mane and Tadic. They were 100% Koeman signings. No black box bullshit there. Koeman was a Reed signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 15 hours ago, TWar said: I thought it was Diallo. Ridiculous that these players who are still under 23 aren't already mega-consistent megastars! I know right and don't get me started on Tella, some games he's not as good as in others. Really makes me mad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 3 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Bit fanciful to give Reed credit for Mane and Tadic. They were 100% Koeman signings. No black box bullshit there. Not sure I'd even give Koeman credit for those. I'd say they were already identified by Paul Mitchell. And let's be honest, he was the blackbox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 5 minutes ago, JustinSFC said: Not sure I'd even give Koeman credit for those. I'd say they were already identified by Paul Mitchell. And let's be honest, he was the blackbox. More that he was unemployed, was affordable, a bigish name and most likely applied for the role. Not sure this was a hidden gem, well scouted, appointment like Poch ‘apparently’ was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 May, 2021 Share Posted 28 May, 2021 (edited) On 25/05/2021 at 14:43, Dusic said: For the kind of money required, why would anyone buy Saints? Why would anybody buy a football club? Edited 28 May, 2021 by sadoldgit Sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 On 28/05/2021 at 22:34, sadoldgit said: Why would anybody buy a football club? I would if I had the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) On 26/05/2021 at 12:12, Wade Garrett said: Bit fanciful to give Reed credit for Mane and Tadic. They were 100% Koeman signings. No black box bullshit there. I find it quite funny how good signings are attributed to one man and bad another Reality was that we likely sign players based on a managers need, scouting consensus and a comittee agreement Paul Mitchell seemed to be the man that found a great many of our gems, and Ross Wilson a great many of our overpaid duff Ive got no love for Reed really but I’d be very surprised if it was just him going out of his way scouting and negotiating as one entity Our issues are/were a culmination of Gao rocking up and providing no direction, bad chief scout/manager appointments and this weird power vacuum that both Krueger (what was the point in him) and Reed seemed to be vying for and neither accepted ultimate responsibility Edited 31 May, 2021 by Smirking_Saint 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said: I find it quite funny how good signings are attributed to one man and bad another Reality was that we likely sign players based on a managers need, scouting consensus and a comittee agreement Paul Mitchell seemed to be the man that found a great many of our gems, and Ross Wilson a great many of our overpaid duff Ive got no love for Reed really but I’d be very surprised if it was just him going out of his way scouting and negotiating as one entity Our issues are/were a culmination of Gao rocking up and providing no direction, bad chief scout/manager appointments and this weird power vacuum that both Krueger (what was the point in him) and Reed seemed to be vying for and neither accepted ultimate responsibility Tadic was signed by Koeman as he knew him from Dutch football. Mane was signed by Koeman because he played out of his skin against a Koeman side. Koeman identified both these players not the black box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Tadic was signed by Koeman as he knew him from Dutch football. Mane was signed by Koeman because he played out of his skin against a Koeman side. Koeman identified both these players not the black box. Both can be true at the same time and people from the club (including Koeman) admitted as much. It does not have to be one reason why the club signed them. Edited 31 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said: Ive got no love for Reed really but I’d be very surprised if it was just him going out of his way scouting and negotiating as one entity People tie themselves in knots trying to blame Reed for all the shite. Nobody really knows the whole story. The only thing I do know is that there was one decision that stands out above all the others. One moment when a wrong decision could of turned everything to shit. The club was at a crossroads and a decision was made that not only stopped a disaster, but actually made things better. That decision was appointing Ronald Koeman. Whoever made that decision deserves a special mention. I doubt it was Mitchell , Cortese or Poch. The 3 that seem to attract the most praise on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: People tie themselves in knots trying to blame Reed for all the shite. Nobody really knows the whole story. The only thing I do know is that there was one decision that stands out above all the others. One moment when a wrong decision could of turned everything to shit. The club was at a crossroads and a decision was made that not only stopped a disaster, but actually made things better. That decision was appointing Ronald Koeman. Whoever made that decision deserves a special mention. I doubt it was Mitchell , Cortese or Poch. The 3 that seem to attract the most praise on here. In other news can we stick to takeover topic please. and FFS please rename the thread as DaGrosa no longer isin the running 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Tadic was signed by Koeman as he knew him from Dutch football. Mane was signed by Koeman because he played out of his skin against a Koeman side. Koeman identified both these players not the black box. What a load of old shit. Koeman said Mane was on our list when we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 Christ this thread is someway off the topic of a take over.............chill boys, post your point otherwise use the correct topics this is just click bait atm.......! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 3 hours ago, CB Fry said: What a load of old shit. Koeman said Mane was on our list when we signed him. Rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 5 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: People tie themselves in knots trying to blame Reed for all the shite. Nobody really knows the whole story. The only thing I do know is that there was one decision that stands out above all the others. One moment when a wrong decision could of turned everything to shit. The club was at a crossroads and a decision was made that not only stopped a disaster, but actually made things better. That decision was appointing Ronald Koeman. Whoever made that decision deserves a special mention. I doubt it was Mitchell , Cortese or Poch. The 3 that seem to attract the most praise on here. I’ve always found it amusing that Reed gets blamed for all the bad signings and manager appointments, other people get credit for all the good ones. It’s laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 3 hours ago, CB Fry said: What a load of old shit. Koeman said Mane was on our list when we signed him. 13 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Rude. @CB Fry is correct, Koeman did confirm that Mane was his choice, but also that the club were monitoring him as well independent of Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 Mane was one of the top scorers in Europe (albeit in a weaker league). It didn't take a genius to see that he had big potential, whether that was Koeman or the black box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, CB Fry said: What a load of old shit. Koeman said Mane was on our list when we signed him. Especially considering the main soundbites coming out of the club was how we'd been monitoring him for years too. Also given the amount of money Koeman spaffed at Everton where pretty much every one of his signings were fucking awful, I don't believe for one second he'd be capable of finding a Mane or a Tadic. Edited 31 May, 2021 by JustinSFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 18 minutes ago, JustinSFC said: Especially considering the main soundbites coming out of the club was how we'd been monitoring him for years too. Also given the amount of money Koeman spaffed at Everton where pretty much every one of his signings were fucking awful, I don't believe for one second he'd be capable of finding a Mane or a Tadic. Almost certainly would have known about both as played against them the season before. I suspect it would have been a case of us having a list of players of which they were included and he picked them out. I doubt Pelle was on the ‘black box’ not our traditional type of signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 7 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Tadic was signed by Koeman as he knew him from Dutch football. Mane was signed by Koeman because he played out of his skin against a Koeman side. Koeman identified both these players not the black box. Why would anyone sign a player after one good performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 28 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Why would anyone sign a player after one good performance? It’s not too hard. It was when Mane first came to his attention. He obviously kept his eye on him from them. Fuck me, I’ve just paid another fiver to be able to post on this shit. Too many sad troll wankers on here. Shame, most threads are now being ruined by a few sad fuckers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 TAKEOVER THREAD!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 Day 2 rename the bloody takeover thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 12 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Why would anyone sign a player after one good performance? Was Koeman wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 Wow you lot still at it then ............get a room. Wade and Sad old git. Shut up going on ,in the wrong place make your own thread how to score points of each other... maybe...? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 15 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Why would anyone sign a player after one good performance? Same reason ferguson bought Ronaldo after utd v Lisbon game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 1 hour ago, danjosaint said: Same reason ferguson bought Ronaldo after utd v Lisbon game That isn't strictly true - they had an agreement with him for the following season but after that game Real Madrid etc were sniffing around so they brought it all forward and flew him and his family to Manchester the next day to sign the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 I actually came on here to see if there was any news on the takeover and got dragged into a chat *not* about takeovers.. Apologies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 Nearly a month since the fans forum where Semmens said news of a new 'investment structure' was to be announced "soon". Whilst that doesn't necessarily translate to a takeover, it was clear acknowledgement for the first time from those running the club day-to-day that we are actively seeking new investors. There haven't been any links/stories in the media for a while, but it's hard to know whether no news is good news as hopefully any serious investor would not be going to the press every 5 minutes like DaGrosa was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 Day 3 please rename the takeover thread! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 (edited) Just want to be the first to post in the wonderfully named potential takeovers Thanks Lighthouse Edited 1 June, 2021 by Convict Colony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 I made a rookie error and was incredibly naive and believed we would hear something pretty soon after the season finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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