hypochondriac Posted 25 December, 2021 Share Posted 25 December, 2021 32 minutes ago, Turkish said: One person posting on an Internet forum Nixon gets his info from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 December, 2021 Share Posted 25 December, 2021 The less the rumour detail, the more likely it is to be an exchange-listed company. There are serious penalties for leaking significant stuff. Or, for the skeptics, the less the rumour detail, the more likely it is to be bullshit. Me? I'm a glass half-full guy. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 5 hours ago, EBS1980 said: Alan Nixon is not a reliable source. He’s only marginally better than Alex Crooks - and he is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 (edited) Surely it's unlikely to be de grosa? He can't keep his mouth shut (and this has been kept very quiet), plus his chances (or inferred to be him at the time) were rubbished by the club previously. I'm holding out for a good takeover. We have also been linked with some surprising players in January, ones that would be well outside of our financial reach by inspection as it stands. Edited 26 December, 2021 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 37 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Surely it's unlikely to be de grosa? He can't keep his mouth shut (and this has been kept very quiet), plus his chances (or inferred to be him at the time) were rubbished by the club previously. I'm holding out for a good takeover. We have also been linked with some surprising players in January, ones that would be well outside of our financial reach by inspection as it stands. I just wish we weren’t being linked with 17 year olds “with potential”. Would be nice to have a couple of new players that could immediately make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 Bro I just wish in the EPL for once we had and owner with disposable cash (and can invest the 50m net free per year for FFP) and can play a better version of the L1 glory days when good players came in and made us awesome to watch. I really feel we are so close to a tipping point that if we could just improve the squad to the next level of quality we could super fun to watch. Personally I would buy 2 inside forwards, a proven striker and a direct running CM and a goalie as my first summer shopping assignment. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: Bro I just wish in the EPL for once we had and owner with disposable cash (and can invest the 50m net free per year for FFP) and can play a better version of the L1 glory days when good players came in and made us awesome to watch. I really feel we are so close to a tipping point that if we could just improve the squad to the next level of quality we could super fun to watch. Personally I would buy 2 inside forwards, a proven striker and a direct running CM and a goalie as my first summer shopping assignment. I agree. In particular a class goalkeeper would transform us tbh. Would solidify the defence and give us the confidence to attack and press with real abandon (as opposed to now where even when we attack it often feels like its with our punches pulled in case of the break). I think Ralph and semmens have done all they can reasonably be expected to with the resources and restrictions we have. I just want a takeover to come in, that will enhance the capabilities of those 2 in particular, and that will help us get a few key signings that really push us on. Edited 26 December, 2021 by Saint86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Saint86 said: Surely it's unlikely to be de grosa? The company he seemingly set up last year as his SFC takeover vehicle was dissolved last week... https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12935838/filing-history Edited 26 December, 2021 by trousers 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 3 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I just wish we weren’t being linked with 17 year olds “with potential”. Would be nice to have a couple of new players that could immediately make a difference. Did you think the same of 18 year old Livramento when he joined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 45 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Did you think the same of 18 year old Livramento when he joined? Probably not as Livramento clearly wasn't a 17 with potential but a step up from that. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Fan The Flames said: Probably not as Livramento clearly wasn't a 17 with potential but a step up from that. Easy to say in hindsight 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 I don’t suppose Jim Ratcliffe was at the game? Or maybe some geezers from Red Bull? Knowing our luck, Rupert Lowe was there with Mike Ashley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 5 hours ago, TWar said: Easy to say in hindsight 😉 Personally I thought it was an insane signing 😁 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 Rasmus Ankersen is leaving Brentford. He had a close working relationship with Saints during his time at Brentford. Also involved at Midtjylland. Coincidence? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 20 minutes ago, positivepete said: Rasmus Ankersen is leaving Brentford. He had a close working relationship with Saints during his time at Brentford. Also involved at Midtjylland. Coincidence? He’s DOF at Brentford though?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 He has announced he is leaving. https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2021/december/a-goodbye-social-media-message-from-rasmus-ankersen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 8 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Did you think the same of 18 year old Livramento when he joined? It’s more the pissing away of money on the likes of Boufal, Hoedt etc. People moan about the VVD money but that was pissed up the wall long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 26 December, 2021 Share Posted 26 December, 2021 11 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: It’s more the pissing away of money on the likes of Boufal, Hoedt etc. People moan about the VVD money but that was pissed up the wall long ago. Boufal is having a very good season at Angers in Ligue 1. He will be moving to a champions league club next summer the way he has impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 December, 2021 Share Posted 27 December, 2021 On 26/12/2021 at 21:10, stevy777_x said: Boufal is having a very good season at Angers in Ligue 1. He will be moving to a champions league club next summer the way he has impressed. Djenepo would look good in Ligue 1 too 38 year old Jose Fonte won the league ffs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 December, 2021 Share Posted 27 December, 2021 So... We're still getting taken over inside 4 days right? It's been linked to and hypo confirmed it was imminent (again).. Yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 Not going to happen. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 Nice to have a snippet of a rumour to contemplate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, Suhari said: Nice to have a snippet of a rumour to contemplate though. It actually was! A very specific rumour, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 The couple of people I’ve spoken to who make out they know something about the takeover think it’ll be done by March but won’t say why then or who is involved, so could well be BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 16 hours ago, Saint86 said: So... We're still getting taken over inside 4 days right? It's been linked to and hypo confirmed it was imminent (again).. Yeah? I'm told the potential new owners are at the game. We will see! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 Just now, hypochondriac said: I'm told the potential new owners are at the game. We will see! Michael McIntyre is there... Make of that what you will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: I'm told the potential new owners are at the game. We will see! Michael McIntyre? His boy could do a better job for us than some of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 46 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'm told the potential new owners are at the game. We will see! We'll? Who was on earlobe-watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Michael McIntyre? His boy could do a better job for us than some of our players. Really?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: I'm told the potential new owners are at the game. We will see! Is David pleat attached to any takeover groups? Or was he just there for the spurs connection. Was sat up behind a certain comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Saint86 said: Is David pleat attached to any takeover groups? Or was he just there for the spurs connection. Was sat up behind a certain comedian. Dunno. Was told there was a connection with Texas. Hope what I'm told isn't complete bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Dunno. Was told there was a connection with Texas. Hope what I'm told isn't complete bollocks! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Dunno. Was told there was a connection with Texas. Hope what I'm told isn't complete bollocks! Alec Scheiner the CEO of Redball (the Billy Beane/Richard Scudamore group who are looking to buy a PL club) used to be at the Dallas Cowboys. https://redballac.com/ Edited 28 December, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Alec Scheiner the CEO of Redball (the Billy Beane/Richard Scudamore group) used to be at the Dallas Cowboys. https://redballac.com/ Nah it’s Bobby Ewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Alec Scheiner the CEO of Redball (the Billy Beane/Richard Scudamore group who are looking to buy a PL club) used to be at the Dallas Cowboys. https://redballac.com/ Any idea if there's an nfl connection? Edited 28 December, 2021 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Any idea if there's an nfl connection? I'm not sure what you mean, as the Dallas Cowboys are a NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I'm not sure what you mean, as the Dallas Cowboys are a NFL team. I was told that potential owners had a connection with nfl and I didn't know if that fitted anyone with Redball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I was told that potential owners had a connection with nfl and I didn't know if that fitted anyone with Redball. Top 15 richest owners in the NFL 1. David Tepper, Panthers: $14.5 billion (142nd-richest person in the world)2. Jerry Jones, Cowboys: $8.9 billion3. Stan Kroenke, Rams: $8.2 billion4. Shahid Khan, Jaguars: $8 billion 5. Stephen Ross, Dolphins: $7 billion 6. Robert Kraft, Patriots: $6.9 billion7. Arthur Blank, Falcons: $6.2 billion 8. Terry Pegula, Bills: $5.4 billion9. Stephen Bisciotti, Ravens: $4.9 billion 10. Janice McNair, Texans: $4.1 billion11. Denise York, 49ers: $3.5 billion12. Gayle Benson, Saints: $3.4 billionT-13. Jimmy Haslam, Browns: $3 billionT-13. Jim Irsay, Colts: $3 billionT-13. Jeffrey Lurie, Eagles: $3 billion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Alec Scheiner the CEO of Redball (the Billy Beane/Richard Scudamore group who are looking to buy a PL club) used to be at the Dallas Cowboys. https://redballac.com/ What is the attraction of Redball , and the Beane/Scudamore link ? Have seen a few posters hoping it is them but I don't know why this is deemed preferable to say Red Bull, or Ratcliffe/Ineos for example who at least have some track record in European football. This is not directed at MLG specifically, but his is one of a few posts which appear keen on Beane/Scudamore (which I agree sounds prefereable to our current ownership). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I'm told the potential new owners are at the game. We will see! Any of our existing owners/ representatives present ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Badger said: What is the attraction of Redball , and the Beane/Scudamore link ? Have seen a few posters hoping it is them but I don't know why this is deemed preferable to say Red Bull, or Ratcliffe/Ineos for example who at least have some track record in European football. This is not directed at MLG specifically, but his is one of a few posts which appear keen on Beane/Scudamore (which I agree sounds prefereable to our current ownership). I didn't say they are preferable to the other options you gave, it is hard to determine which of those three would be best. But... Redball don't appear to be chancers, the CVs of their board are very impressive and they have raised a huge amount of money from investors for a potential PL deal. Edited 28 December, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: I didn't say they are preferable to the other options you gave. They don't appear to be chancers, the CVs of their board is very impressive and they have raised a huge amount of money from investors for a PL deal. Fair enough, some reasonable points you've given, although I suspect only time would confirm if they were "chancers" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Badger said: Fair enough, some reasonable points you've given, although I suspect only time would confirm if they were "chancers" or not. RedBall raised $575m in its initial public offering (IPO) last summer to buy a Premier League team and sought to raise another $950m through Redbird Capital Partners and other private outside investment in its second run to try and raise as much almost $1bn. "Chancers" don't raise that level of finance! Investors are clearly taking them seriously. Edited 28 December, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: RedBall raised $575m in its initial public offering (IPO) last summer to buy a Premier League team and sought to raise another $950m through Redbird Capital Partners and other private outside investment in its second run to try and raise as much almost $1bn. "Chancers" don't raise that level of finance! Thanks. You've sold their credentials to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: RedBall raised $575m in its initial public offering (IPO) last summer to buy a Premier League team and sought to raise another $950m through Redbird Capital Partners and other private outside investment in its second run to try and raise as much almost $1bn. "Chancers" don't raise that level of finance! Investors are clearly taking them seriously. And I believe there is a timeframe in which they need to have made an acquisition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Badger said: Thanks. You've sold their credentials to me ! Don't get too excited... they probably have no interest in Saints! 😁 They were looking at Liverpool, so quite a step down to then go for Southampton. Edited 28 December, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 4 minutes ago, Suhari said: And I believe there is a timeframe in which they need to have made an acquisition? Yes, due to the nature of the way they have raised the money, they have 24 months after the initial IPO to find a home for their investors cash. Should that clock run out then the money is handed back. I think it may be down to under a year left now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Yes, due to the nature of the way they have raised the money, they have 24 months after the initial IPO to find a home for their investors cash. Should that clock run out then the money is handed back. I think it may be down to under a year left now. It's two years from 18th August 2020 when the IPO was completed/they started trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: It's two years from 18th August 2020 when the IPO was completed/they started trading. That should focus them on sealing a deal for a Premier League club soon then! Or the money they raised goes back to investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 11 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: RedBall raised $575m in its initial public offering (IPO) last summer to buy a Premier League team and sought to raise another $950m through Redbird Capital Partners and other private outside investment in its second run to try and raise as much almost $1bn. "Chancers" don't raise that level of finance! Investors are clearly taking them seriously. There are many companies that raise this kind of money, and a fair number are either venture capitalists or have them as investors. Venture capitalists are focused on two things - a significant (and ideally quick) return, and an (investment) exit strategy. That pretty much makes them “chancers” in my book. Granted, though, RedBall seem to have a longer term focus and a broader strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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