ChrisPY Posted 2 March, 2021 Share Posted 2 March, 2021 On 27/02/2021 at 23:56, Matthew Le God said: Homophobia largely comes from religious intolerance... discuss Surely it’s evolutionary given the need for one biological man and one biological woman being needed to reproduce and keep the great ape reproducing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 2 March, 2021 Share Posted 2 March, 2021 45 minutes ago, ChrisPY said: Surely it’s evolutionary given the need for one biological man and one biological woman being needed to reproduce and keep the great ape reproducing? Homosexuality seems to be a Darwinian puzzle. You'd think it would die out due to the lack of reproduction but it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 March, 2021 Share Posted 2 March, 2021 5 minutes ago, Manuel said: Homosexuality seems to be a Darwinian puzzle. You'd think it would die out due to the lack of reproduction but it doesn't. Only if there is a gay gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 2 March, 2021 And it’s very fashionable at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 March, 2021 Share Posted 2 March, 2021 1 hour ago, ChrisPY said: Surely it’s evolutionary given the need for one biological man and one biological woman being needed to reproduce and keep the great ape reproducing? Mainly it comes from the tyrannical dictators of days gone by needing growing populations to work, tax and fight in their armies. Actually it’s amazing just how convenient most religions were to the rulers of their time. How many mistresses you may take, how many slaves, how you must treat them, which races are superior to which other ones etc. Oh and if you’re lucky enough to die fighting for the cause, you get blessed with eternal happiness in the afterlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2021 More great news. Hot on the heels of the success of the interracial couple emoji campaign Tinder allows users to choose up to 3 sexual preferences on their profiles! What better way to find a date than to keep your options open. There really hasn't ever been a better time for an asexual, gender fluid vegan to find a relationship with a demisexual muslim 👏👏👏 Tinder: Dating app now allows users to choose up to three sexual orientations | The Independent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 March, 2021 Share Posted 3 March, 2021 22 minutes ago, Turkish said: More great news. Hot on the heels of the success of the interracial couple emoji campaign Tinder allows users to choose up to 3 sexual preferences on their profiles! What better way to find a date than to keep your options open. There really hasn't ever been a better time for an asexual, gender fluid vegan to find a relationship with a demisexual muslim 👏👏👏 Tinder: Dating app now allows users to choose up to three sexual orientations | The Independent About bloody time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 March, 2021 Share Posted 4 March, 2021 On 20/02/2021 at 08:43, Weston Super Saint said: I feel I must throw myself upon the apology altar as it appears that I have also missed out the 'I' community. Hopefully these flags will make up for my temporary lapse. Reeboted Pride Trans Pride Intersex Pride Bisexual Pride Pansexual pride Nonbinary Pride Asexual Pride Genderfluid Pride Agender Pride Genderqueer Pride Lesbian Pride Original Pride Is that any more strange than groups of people around the world separating themselves off with lines on a map and coming up with a pretty flag to define themselves by, or people from certain towns wearing certain colours and kicking a pigs bladder around into nets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 A thought popped into my head seeing that Drag Race trending on Twitter and I genuinely don’t know where I stand on it - Are drag queens just doing blackface with gender? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 5 hours ago, Lighthouse said: A thought popped into my head seeing that Drag Race trending on Twitter and I genuinely don’t know where I stand on it - Are drag queens just doing blackface with gender? Interesting point. Could I black up if I said I identified as a black man? On 20/02/2021 at 08:27, Weston Super Saint said: You've missed out the Q's. There's enough hatred and prejudice in the world without you ostracising the entire Q community! What does the Q stand for? On 21/02/2021 at 09:44, Plastic said: I just read this article, not sure why. It’s about a trans dad getting pregnant and having a baby. Anyway, the overriding impression I get is of mental illness and self importance, not a strong coherent identity. I also don’t understand how pronouns can upset people so much, but then I am over 40 now, so I guess I must have hit a generational gap. Tbh I found the whole thing pretty hard to comprehend, like reading a modernist novel. Happy Sunday! https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/20/as-a-trans-dad-my-mental-health-deteriorated-after-my-child-was-born-14108300/ Pretty sure the stats show that depression, self harm and suicide rates actually increase after transitioning. 5 hours ago, Lighthouse said: A thought popped into my head seeing that Drag Race trending on Twitter and I genuinely don’t know where I stand on it - Are drag queens just doing blackface with gender? Didn't mean to quote this again and can't delete it on mobile 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 5 hours ago, Lighthouse said: A thought popped into my head seeing that Drag Race trending on Twitter and I genuinely don’t know where I stand on it - Are drag queens just doing blackface with gender? Genderface, you have a point. Gender appropriation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 Q = queer or questioning. There are a growing number of people transitioning back, they found that transitioning didn't solve their problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 Maybe they (the undecideds) will call themselve something like this: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11481686/prince-name-change-symbol-why For posters who can't be bothered checking links it is an unpronouncable symbol that gender-bender Prince used for a while. Prince was a great musician who could actually play instruments, write songs and perform but he was always effeminate. That's also why Michael Jackson could never have been a kiddy-fiddller after he took the knife to his face to look like Diana Ross. I reckon, judging by that effeminate voice, he may have been a eunuch. His lawyer should have told him to strip in front of the jury; case closed. I'm half joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: Q = queer or questioning. There are a growing number of people transitioning back, they found that transitioning didn't solve their problems. Its a bit like plastic surgery. Some people have a clear and settled physical issue which can be fixed by surgery. For others its more a psychological issue where when they look in the mirror they are never happy, no matter how many times their nose is sculpted or their face lifted. Edited 5 March, 2021 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2021 11 hours ago, Lighthouse said: A thought popped into my head seeing that Drag Race trending on Twitter and I genuinely don’t know where I stand on it - Are drag queens just doing blackface with gender? Very good point, women have had years of oppression and inequality, why should men be allowed to dress up as them? It's not even like they're embracing the natural female form, it's generally vulgarity covered in make up and vile clothing. Where do we stand on trannies? Surely men dressing as women to make themselves feel better is disgraceful, dressing as a woman to satisfy male urges is degrading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 5 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: Q = queer or questioning. There are a growing number of people transitioning back, they found that transitioning didn't solve their problems. I would have thought that people who are unhappy with their bodies would be better off treated from a psychological perspective than a surgical one. "Gender dysphoria" is all rather un-evidenced if you ask me. Dress how you want but I'd like to see more evidence that people are born in the wrong body before I'm happy with the NHS chopping bits off simply because the patient asks for it. Of course if people want to pay for surgery themselves, that's their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 6 minutes ago, Manuel said: I would have thought that people who are unhappy with their bodies would be better off treated from a psychological perspective than a surgical one. "Gender dysphoria" is all rather un-evidenced if you ask me. Dress how you want but I'd like to see more evidence that people are born in the wrong body before I'm happy with the NHS chopping bits off simply because the patient asks for it. Of course if people want to pay for surgery themselves, that's their business. A friend of our's child is going through something and it was quite frightening how you suddenly get pulled through a system that is very pro it. Added to that they are on forums that warp your mind (a bit like this one) and then a friendship group that reinforces it further. My friends had to really fight to slow things down, they were seen as rejecting their daughter and imposing their views. When all the wanted was for it all to slow down and their daughter to really be sure. They went ballistic at the school when the school began to call her by her new chosen name with out consultation and again were treated as the outsider in the whole situation. Thankfully they got their daughter into the CAMHs service and that has helped, but the reality is that something is going on with her, she is very unhappy and has been for a long time, but as you say there has to be an examination of what that problem is first before you get whipped along a route that could be devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 (edited) I do feel for people who have these issues. I wonder if they'd be better treated with compassion and understanding than attempting a surgical "fix". The NHS seems to bow down to public pressure very easily. edit - It doesn't help that it's very difficult to express views like these publicly without getting shouted down. I'd really like to see more open debate. Edited 5 March, 2021 by Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 5 hours ago, Manuel said: I do feel for people who have these issues. I wonder if they'd be better treated with compassion and understanding than attempting a surgical "fix". The NHS seems to bow down to public pressure very easily. edit - It doesn't help that it's very difficult to express views like these publicly without getting shouted down. I'd really like to see more open debate. I do wonder if there's an element of being so terrified of offending people that we (as a society) just go with what seems agreeable and not necessarily the best solution for those involved. I'm not sure the phrase 'LGBT' is necessarily accurate; I think the 'T' is a separate issue, which should be treated differently. I can't see why a form of body dysmorphic disorder should be lumped in with being gay or lesbian, seems like rather a lazy association to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 5 March, 2021 Share Posted 5 March, 2021 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: I do wonder if there's an element of being so terrified of offending people that we (as a society) just go with what seems agreeable and not necessarily the best solution for those involved. I'm not sure the phrase 'LGBT' is necessarily accurate; I think the 'T' is a separate issue, which should be treated differently. I can't see why a form of body dysmorphic disorder should be lumped in with being gay or lesbian, seems like rather a lazy association to make. Yep, LGB are sexual orientations. The T is completely different. As for Q, I have no idea what that is meant to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 March, 2021 Share Posted 6 March, 2021 Still forgetting the 'I' chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 9 March, 2021 Not really sure what Harry and Meghan were thinking announcing their babies gender on the Oprah interview. How dare they decide for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 12 March, 2021 (edited) My child has written a poem for you all about his struggle being a boy in a woke world why was I born a boy daddy? Am I Not free to chose? i want to wear jeans, get muddy in fields, through viz magazines peruse why was I born a boy daddy? all my friends are fluid and free One day in trousers, the next in tiara, For them life seems so easy why was I born a boy daddy? I’ve got quite a crush on vashty She likes me too, or so I thought, until she turned up Today as a he Why was I born a boy daddy? I thought at this age I’m meant to thrive But every day all I have to do is apologize for being male, straight and alive Edited 12 March, 2021 by Turkish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 March, 2021 Share Posted 13 March, 2021 So, this is ok apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2021 1 hour ago, Crab Lungs said: So, this is ok apparently. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 it’s wonderful to see the indoctrination of our children as such a young age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2021 Share Posted 13 March, 2021 12 hours ago, Turkish said: My child has written a poem for you all about his struggle being a boy in a woke world why was I born a boy daddy? Am I Not free to chose? i want to wear jeans, get muddy in fields, through viz magazines peruse why was I born a boy daddy? all my friends are fluid and free One day in trousers, the next in tiara, For them life seems so easy why was I born a boy daddy? I’ve got quite a crush on vashty She likes me too, or so I thought, until she turned up Today as a he Why was I born a boy daddy? I thought at this age I’m meant to thrive But every day all I have to do is apologize for being male, straight and alive What the fuck is that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, aintforever said: What the fuck is that! Why are you laughing at the emotions and struggle of young children? Edited 13 March, 2021 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2021 Share Posted 13 March, 2021 19 minutes ago, Turkish said: Why are you laughing at the emotions and struggle of young children? I was laughing at your tragic obsession with woke. You do know that woke just means to be alert to injustice in society, especially racism yeah? It is essentially a good thing, nothing to make your poor boy apologise for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2021 3 minutes ago, aintforever said: I was laughing at your tragic obsession with woke. You do know that woke just means to be alert to injustice in society, especially racism yeah? It is essentially a good thing, nothing to make your poor boy apologise for. That’s good then because I point and laugh at your tragic stupidity, daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2021 Share Posted 13 March, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: That’s good then because I point and laugh at your tragic stupidity, daily. Of course you do! ”But every day all I have to do is apologize for being male, straight and alive “ You actually posted that. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2021 1 minute ago, aintforever said: Of course you do! ”But every day all I have to do is apologize for being male, straight and alive “ You actually posted that. Brilliant. yet again you prove my point. Thick as fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2021 Share Posted 13 March, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: yet again you prove my point. Thick as fuck Fucking hilarious, you should think about a career in stand up. Any more poems for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aintforever said: Fucking hilarious, you should think about a career in stand up. Any more poems for us? There once was a pansexual called aintforver his posts on saints web show he’s not very clever He likes to appear woke never gets the joke Everyone laughs at him forever Edited 13 March, 2021 by Turkish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2021 Share Posted 13 March, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: There once was a pansexual called aintforver his posts on saints web show he’s not very clever He likes to appear woke never gets the joke Everyone laughs at him forever Brilliant, Not as good as: ”But every day all I have to do is apologize for being male, straight and alive “ tho Edited 13 March, 2021 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2021 14 minutes ago, aintforever said: Brilliant, Not as good as: ”But every day all I have to do is apologize for being male, straight and alive “ tho You are definitely one of my favorite posters, I could script how you would respond on this thread, even down to where your silly little laughing emojis would appear, it’s so cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 15 March, 2021 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/956263/mr-men-little-miss-books-sexist-university-lincoln-study 👏 about 👏 time 👏 too 👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 16 March, 2021 Share Posted 16 March, 2021 "Egmont, the publisher of Mr Men and Little Miss books, declined to comment." Speaks volumes. A pretty pointless study. The books are from the 70's and 80's written by a man who was born in 1935. Surely the point of studying history is because it is different from today. Things were different last century than they are this century. What a revelation! I do worry about universities sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 March, 2021 Share Posted 16 March, 2021 3 hours ago, Manuel said: "Egmont, the publisher of Mr Men and Little Miss books, declined to comment." Speaks volumes. A pretty pointless study. The books are from the 70's and 80's written by a man who was born in 1935. Surely the point of studying history is because it is different from today. Things were different last century than they are this century. What a revelation! I do worry about universities sometimes. Universities are fucked. Especially in USA. Just crusading against history. Although students do tend to grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2021 Perry doesn't seem to be a very good mascot. A male bull, who is white wearing white clothing. How does this reflect our diverse, inclusive country? Racism, sexism and lack of diversity alive and well. How depressing. Birmingham Commonwealth Games mascot announced as Perry the Bull - Birmingham Live (birminghammail.co.uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 March, 2021 Share Posted 22 March, 2021 It's multi-coloured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: It's multi-coloured. But male with white tusks, white nose and white feet. Disgraceful Edited 22 March, 2021 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 March, 2021 Share Posted 22 March, 2021 If you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 22 March, 2021 Share Posted 22 March, 2021 (edited) It's also got 2 arms and 2 legs which is offensive to people of limited ability and the bipedally challenged. Although I am pleased to note that it's feet appear to be inclusive. Edited 22 March, 2021 by Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2021 Author Share Posted 25 March, 2021 (edited) Eddie izzard being referred to As her on GMB this morning. How brave of them 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Edited 25 March, 2021 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 March, 2021 Share Posted 25 March, 2021 On 22/03/2021 at 11:45, Turkish said: Perry doesn't seem to be a very good mascot. A male bull, who is white wearing white clothing. How does this reflect our diverse, inclusive country? Racism, sexism and lack of diversity alive and well. How depressing. Birmingham Commonwealth Games mascot announced as Perry the Bull - Birmingham Live (birminghammail.co.uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 Disgraceful. Who would paint over such a beautiful mural? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-56555337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 March, 2021 Share Posted 29 March, 2021 7 hours ago, Plastic said: Disgraceful. Who would paint over such a beautiful mural? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-56555337 an underpass near me seems to get redecorated every week. Looking at the photos on that link it seems to be right in the middle of an 'urban' area so would be prime graffiti real estate. The new artwork on that underpass isn't anything against trans so bit of a non story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 29 March, 2021 Share Posted 29 March, 2021 Later this summer I shall have to make a speech at our annual Village Event. Such a speech would usually begin with ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ - but given current social trends such an opening line would never do. Your suggestions, please, for an alternative start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 March, 2021 Share Posted 29 March, 2021 2 hours ago, Kingsland Codger said: Later this summer I shall have to make a speech at our annual Village Event. Such a speech would usually begin with ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ - but given current social trends such an opening line would never do. Your suggestions, please, for an alternative start. "Persons of all gender identities, and none, welcome......" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 March, 2021 Share Posted 29 March, 2021 3 hours ago, Kingsland Codger said: Later this summer I shall have to make a speech at our annual Village Event. Such a speech would usually begin with ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ - but given current social trends such an opening line would never do. Your suggestions, please, for an alternative start. Ladies, Gentlemen and those that just don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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