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So Squad is?

1. McCarthy/Forster
2. Livramento/KWP/Valery
3. Perraud (KWP)/Small
4. JWP/Diallo (Smallbone)
5. Bednerak/Stephens
6. Salisu/Lynaco
7. Armstrong(S)/Redmond/Elonyoussi
8. Adams/Walcott/Long
9. Armstong(A)/Broja/Obefemi
10. Romeu
11. Tella/Djnepo

25 plus the injured Smallbone

I suggest the squad is stronger than last year especially if the new players can make the grade.

Another defensive midfielder would assist and hopefully our 'keepers will be less exposed if the spine of the team improves.

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1 hour ago, Killers Knee said:

Best window in a very long time, not perfect but very close.  I’m now very optimistic for this season.  Bring on the big six.

All good until anyone has a shot on goal. Our goal. 

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1 hour ago, spyinthesky said:

So Squad is?

1. McCarthy/Forster
2. Livramento/KWP/Valery
3. Perraud (KWP)/Small
4. JWP/Diallo (Smallbone)
5. Bednerak/Stephens
6. Salisu/Lynaco
7. Armstrong(S)/Redmond/Elonyoussi
8. Adams/Walcott/Long
9. Armstong(A)/Broja/Obefemi
10. Romeu
11. Tella/Djnepo

25 plus the injured Smallbone

I suggest the squad is stronger than last year especially if the new players can make the grade.

Another defensive midfielder would assist and hopefully our 'keepers will be less exposed if the spine of the team improves.

I think undoubtedly the squad is stronger. Is the first team though? That remains to be seen. All depends on this CB imo. 

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15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think undoubtedly the squad is stronger. Is the first team though? That remains to be seen. All depends on this CB imo. 

Yep, but still a man short in midfield for me. 

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27 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think undoubtedly the squad is stronger. Is the first team though? That remains to be seen. All depends on this CB imo. 

Maybe, maybe not, but it definitely has more options and depth, and it was that that caused more problems last year than the quality of the first team. The fit and in form first team got to the top of the league. The injuries and the lack of depth caused the terrible run and lack of holding onto leads, more depth should mean injuries to the first eleven impact performance less and the more options of the bench should help us hold onto leads or change more games. 

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15 minutes ago, egg said:

Yep, but still a man short in midfield for me. 

Sounds like the club and Ralph agree. 

Reading his comments he still says we are short in the '6' and we are looking.

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2 hours ago, Teddeer said:

You'd think those in charge of the purse strings would learn a few harsh lessons and stop handing out huge contracts to players who clearly offer us very little value. Money is clearly tight so why are we paying Theo, who has been past his best for years, £75,000 a week.

Not that I would have bought him but he did cost us nothing. 

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52 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think undoubtedly the squad is stronger. Is the first team though? That remains to be seen. All depends on this CB imo. 

On preliminary evidence we are stronger at left back, whether that’s perraud or kwp over Bertrand.

CB I was always of the view are cb were much of a muchness, so not really weaker there if anything salisu seems to be progressing. Hopefully Lyanco will be good

striker slightly weaker but Armstrong has been promising

so overall i’d suggest not weaker, potential to be slightly stronger.

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8 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

On preliminary evidence we are stronger at left back, whether that’s perraud or kwp over Bertrand.

CB I was always of the view are cb were much of a muchness, so not really weaker there if anything salisu seems to be progressing. Hopefully Lyanco will be good

striker slightly weaker but Armstrong has been promising

so overall i’d suggest not weaker, potential to be slightly stronger.

I don't think you can cite kwp playing at lb against Newport as evidence that we are stronger there. Much much too premature to say we are stronger at CB, no real change in midfield and slightly weaker in attack as you said. So overall no evidence thus far that we are stronger than last year imo. 

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WE are stronger in both full back positions-and have cover as well. I doubt we are weaker in attack, Danny was not always available and when he was not top form. AA will bring energy we lacked and Roja has fresh fire power, in fact the cover is so good there will be competition for every place, last season we had to play people out of position to get a team on the pitch. Of course we are stronger, the season promises well.

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Don’t shoot the messenger but I heard Ronaldo was offered to all teams in the EPL and we turned down the offer.

I can only guess it was for financial reasons or perhaps we didn’t need a striker.

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7 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Don’t shoot the messenger but I heard Ronaldo was offered to all teams in the EPL and we turned down the offer.

I can only guess it was for financial reasons or perhaps we didn’t need a striker.

According to Sky, Man City are interested. He is only demanding £500k/week.

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7 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Don’t shoot the messenger but I heard Ronaldo was offered to all teams in the EPL and we turned down the offer.

I can only guess it was for financial reasons or perhaps we didn’t need a striker.

Ha! That said, imagine if we weren't wasting £200k + PW on Forster, Theo and Long...could have thrown that money at something pretty decent on a loan or free. 

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I wouldn't underestimate how important Walcot is in the dressing room. Youngsters need guidance and he'll be providing that. He also has the capacity to have a good game still.

As Egg says Forster and Long don't offer the same value. Just need to put up with it until next year.

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8 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I wouldn't underestimate how important Walcot is in the dressing room. Youngsters need guidance and he'll be providing that. He also has the capacity to have a good game still.

As Egg says Forster and Long don't offer the same value. Just need to put up with it until next year.

Out of curiosity, where does this come from? What can he offer in the changing room that someone like Kelvin Davis, for example, can't give? Personally I don't get the argument for paying £7m + over 2 years for someone to be a motivator and bit part player when motivation should be a job for the coaching staff. 

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17 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I wouldn't underestimate how important Walcot is in the dressing room. Youngsters need guidance and he'll be providing that. He also has the capacity to have a good game still.

As Egg says Forster and Long don't offer the same value. Just need to put up with it until next year.

How do you know that Walcott is significantly better than Long in motivating/encouraging/supporting the young players? Why wouldn't/doesn't Long do that as well?

Either way it's a pretty nebulous reason to give a player 2 years on seventy odd grand a week.

 

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2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

How do you know that Walcott is significantly better than Long in motivating/encouraging/supporting the young players? Why wouldn't/doesn't Long do that as well?

Either way it's a pretty nebulous reason to give a player 2 years on seventy odd grand a week.

 

I originally typed the same question, but altered it to Kelvin as he's already here. Theo surely was never signed as Mr Motivator. 

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41 minutes ago, egg said:

Ha! That said, imagine if we weren't wasting £200k + PW on Forster, Theo and Long...could have thrown that money at something pretty decent on a loan or free. 

Scary isn’t it £10m a year on players who will contribute hardly anything this season. 

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48 minutes ago, beavis17 said:

Won the best player (Golden Ball Award) in the Under 20 World Cup in 2019 so probably on the scouting lists of most clubs but suspect that's where Crocker knows about him.  Seems a decent player but probably more of a 10.  Anyway, other notable winners of the golden ball award have been Maradona, Messi, Aguero, Pogba, Adama Traore and erm.....Dominic Solanke.  Mostly good company then.

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He was touted as a bit of a wonder kid, I think he came through their academy.

Valencia have turned into a bit of a crazy club though. Firing managers every year, huge player turnovers and they've now announced enormous losses in the 400m euro mark I think. Apparently this lad is frustrated because he doesn't get to play enough. Only 20, stacks of potential.

And a huge, huge marketing opportunity.

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A Korean international 20 year old who has been highly rated and has top flight experience in La Ligs, ON A FREE, seems a no-brainer to me, come on Saints do it, sell the stepping stone young players etc. etc. line. 

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3 minutes ago, tajjuk said:

A Korean international 20 year old who has been highly rated and has top flight experience in La Ligs, ON A FREE, seems a no-brainer to me, come on Saints do it, sell the stepping stone young players etc. etc. line. 

He has an extremely highly PA on FM 

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4 hours ago, egg said:

Out of curiosity, where does this come from? What can he offer in the changing room that someone like Kelvin Davis, for example, can't give? Personally I don't get the argument for paying £7m + over 2 years for someone to be a motivator and bit part player when motivation should be a job for the coaching staff. 

Well obviously don't know for sure, so just an opinion.

I base it on the fact that Walcot is an experienced international, has played at the highest level. He comes across as a good pro. That is important when you have an inexperienced squad. I'd prefer a Jimmy Case type but the club simply cannot attract those players at the moment.

KD good for morale maybe, but he struggled to maintain form consistent enough for the Premier league.

Worth 7 million I'm not sure. I guess time will tell.

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4 hours ago, CB Fry said:

How do you know that Walcott is significantly better than Long in motivating/encouraging/supporting the young players? Why wouldn't/doesn't Long do that as well?

Either way it's a pretty nebulous reason to give a player 2 years on seventy odd grand a week.

 

Just an opinion. Not meant to be controversial.

Walcot is an experienced international and Prem player. He doesn't come across as a Billy big bollocks and hopefully can guide the youngsters we have packed our side with.

Long has the same attributes but is a busted flush on the pitch now.

However Theo has to offer something on the pitch as well.

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4 hours ago, egg said:

Out of curiosity, where does this come from? What can he offer in the changing room that someone like Kelvin Davis, for example, can't give? Personally I don't get the argument for paying £7m + over 2 years for someone to be a motivator and bit part player when motivation should be a job for the coaching staff. 

I wouldn't have given him such a salary either, but a players value/worth can really be worked out by transfer fee paid plus salary over length of contract. Theo came on a free. Would you feel better about it if we paid a £3.5m transfer fee for him and gave him half as much in wages? 

I also agree that he isn't exactly the player he once was, but I do still feel it is useful to have him in our squad. He scored 3 and got 3 assists in the league last season, and I am pretty sure got an assist or two in the cups. Loads of people would be creaming themselves if we had signed Loftus-Cheek (which would likely cost £17-20m and around 80/90kpw in wages) yet he only managed 1 goal and zero assists last season..... 

Not comparing Theo to him but - look at how much PSG are paying Messi, and a raft of other free transfers they have brought in this summer, do you think they would be paying him/them such salaries if they had to have forked out a suitable transfer fee as well?

Sometimes I think some people just want to find something to moan/complain about. 

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23 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

I think you watch different games to the rest of us. Sure we'd prefer him in the 'number 10 role', but he has done a good job filling in in the 'number 6' role.

Could you supply the WLD record of games he has started as a number 6?  I'm sure it must be 'good'.

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5 hours ago, Turkish said:

Scary isn’t it £10m a year on players who will contribute hardly anything this season. 

If you went through all the clubs squads, I wonder how many players would be regarded as `non contributors' and what the total cost/wasted monies spent would be. 

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I think Walcott was a fairly low risk comfort blanket signing. He did ok for us last year, he clearly is respected and works hard in training so can help the younger players a bit and seems from the videos and stuff to be well respected by his teammates. 

We didn't know how the window would go, we probably had targets but pretty much all of them Armstrong, Lyanco, Tino, Small, etc. have had other clubs as strong suitors and we didn't know what would happen with Ings and Vestergaard. But we clearly knew we needed bodies and more squad depth, so being able to get him to sign back in June or whatever was a safe move.

Yeh sure with hindsight and how the window has gone, with potentially more opportunities opening up for a late deal by the looks of things, his signing looks a little unneeded, but back in May/June I think it makes sense. 

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5 hours ago, Turkish said:

Scary isn’t it £10m a year on players who will contribute hardly anything this season. 

And yet people still bang on about how well we are ran as a club.

So well ran, we have to downgrade on every position we sell and can’t afford to add quality to a vital area for us (GK). 

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1 hour ago, InvictaSaint said:

What are your stats?

I remember doing it 8 times in an afternoon but I got a real bad headache. On the other hand I thought Gaston Ramirez might come good in time and I got that one wrong.

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1 minute ago, Mystic Force said:

I remember doing it 8 times in an afternoon but I got a real bad headache. On the other hand I though Gaston Ramirez might come right in time and I got that one wrong.

Stamina 20, Dribbling 20

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11 minutes ago, tajjuk said:

I think Walcott was a fairly low risk comfort blanket signing. He did ok for us last year, he clearly is respected and works hard in training so can help the younger players a bit and seems from the videos and stuff to be well respected by his teammates. 

We didn't know how the window would go, we probably had targets but pretty much all of them Armstrong, Lyanco, Tino, Small, etc. have had other clubs as strong suitors and we didn't know what would happen with Ings and Vestergaard. But we clearly knew we needed bodies and more squad depth, so being able to get him to sign back in June or whatever was a safe move.

Yeh sure with hindsight and how the window has gone, with potentially more opportunities opening up for a late deal by the looks of things, his signing looks a little unneeded, but back in May/June I think it makes sense. 

Anyone unhappy with Walcott's signing needs to explain who they would have signed instead for the same money, or who they would have sold/not signed to fund a better replacement, or if they would have just gone without and relied on Redmond/Ely etc to step up 

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1 minute ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Anyone unhappy with Walcott's signing needs to explain who they would have signed instead for the same money, or who they would have sold/not signed to fund a better replacement, or if they would have just gone without and relied on Redmond/Ely etc to step up 

Ryan Christie would have been a better use of the money. Lower wages, 6 years younger and a low transfer fee as his contract expires soon.

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4 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Anyone unhappy with Walcott's signing needs to explain who they would have signed instead for the same money, or who they would have sold/not signed to fund a better replacement, or if they would have just gone without and relied on Redmond/Ely etc to step up 

Romero (the GK)

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