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3 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Will be interesting to see if he plays against The Swans tomorrow or has picked up yet another little knock on his calf.

Let's be objective, Grealish scares the wits out of opposition defenders and is surely worth far more than JWP, who obviously isn't rated that highly by Southgate and that must count for something in the minds of other clubs. He needs to convince that he is more than a one trick pony and not particularly good at that trick.

£35m is fair tops I'd say.

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13 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Will be interesting to see if he plays against The Swans tomorrow or has picked up yet another little knock on his calf.

Let's be objective, Grealish scares the wits out of opposition defenders and is surely worth far more than JWP, who obviously isn't rated that highly by Southgate and that must count for something in the minds of other clubs. He needs to convince that he is more than a one trick pony and not particularly good at that trick.

£35m is fair tops I'd say.

As I said above, Villa paid £33m for Buendia. JWP is worth considerably more than that. 

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10 minutes ago, waylander said:

As I said above, Villa paid £33m for Buendia. JWP is worth considerably more than taht. 

Completely agree it was £38m in total (with £5m add ons). If we get dont get around the £50m mark we will have been caught with our pants down.

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12 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Could just be a PR exercise by Villa. Trying to appease their fans before they sell Grealish.

If they don't end up signing Ward-Prowse... how is a 'PR exercise' of bidding £25m and failing appeasing their fans?

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4 hours ago, northam soul said:

So who is on the cards as a JWP replacement then.

Have been linked with a few:

- Mattias Svanberg
- Marco Kana
- Yangel Herrera
- Ruben Loftus-Cheek
- Thomas Delaney
- Tom Davies
- Ainsley Maitland-Niles
- Isaac Hayden
- Matt Grimes

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26 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

If they don't end up signing Ward-Prowse... how is a 'PR exercise' of bidding £25m and failing appeasing their fans?

If anything if they lose grealish the pressure will be on the villa board to now complete the JWP deal

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16 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

If anything if they lose grealish the pressure will be on the villa board to now complete the JWP deal

LOL, I don’t think signing Prowse will cheer them up when Grealish goes.
 

I bet their fans on villaweb are going on about he should stay as he’ll only be a sub at city and will be popular in parts of Birmingham forever 

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1 hour ago, wild-saint said:

Why would they bother putting a bid in unless they know for sure via his agent that he would consider joining them.

he is as good as gone once the freakish money is available to spend. 

That's a very apt autocorrect.

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BBC now reporting official bid from Man City of £100 mill and looking to tie up the deal before Grealish returns from holiday, this is looking like a done deal.

Saints need to hold out for a minimum of £50 mill and not a penny less for JWP. I would still be gutted to lose him, i think he's so underrated by so many of our fans.

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58 minutes ago, Turkish said:

LOL, I don’t think signing Prowse will cheer them up when Grealish goes.
 

I bet their fans on villaweb are going on about he should stay as he’ll only be a sub at city and will be popular in parts of Birmingham forever 

I’m not suggesting Prowse = Grealish, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Prowse is highly rated by Villa fans. He is generally highly rated in football circles. I don’t know if it’s typical of all clubs, but I feel Saints fans have a really negative view is some of our better players. Look at the slating Ings gets on his thread, one of the best strikers in the PL. 

Maybe it’s some kind of defensive/ protective psychological mechanism, knowing if we have anyone decent it’s inevitable they will leave?

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2 minutes ago, SO16_Saint said:

It comes down to whether he wants to be here or not.

if he wants a move we hold out for £50M

He isn’t going to go on strike for four years to force his way to an Aston Villa team selling their best player :lol:

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3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Will be interesting to see if he plays against The Swans tomorrow or has picked up yet another little knock on his calf.

Let's be objective, Grealish scares the wits out of opposition defenders and is surely worth far more than JWP, who obviously isn't rated that highly by Southgate and that must count for something in the minds of other clubs. He needs to convince that he is more than a one trick pony and not particularly good at that trick.

£35m is fair tops I'd say.

Christ, you do post some utter bollocks and this really stood out as top of the charts and on here that is some achievement 

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4 hours ago, Sweet dee said:

Villa had to start somewhere, every club does, and we do start to get twitchy for a sale around the 25 million mark, he'll probably end up going for 35-40, can't see us holding out for anymore than that, hope I'm wrong, I'd like to keep him 💁

 

4 hours ago, Sweet dee said:

Villa had to start somewhere, every club does, and we do start to get twitchy for a sale around the 25 million mark, he'll probably end up going for 35-40, can't see us holding out for anymore than that, hope I'm wrong, I'd like to keep him 💁

Once was enough mate 

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5 hours ago, revolution saint said:

I don't think JWP is worth 50M but then I don't think Ben White is worth that and I don't think Grealish is worth 100M either so given his length of contract, age, nationality, injury record (or lack of one) and the number of points he'll contribute via set pieces then it's probably fair to at least ask for something around the 50M mark.

Well.. every time I wander into my village and look in the estate agents' windows I mutter the same about the prices, but somebody is paying them. I'm going to leave a decent whack myself when I pop my clogs (care home fees permitting) and that's for an ex-council terrace!  But £25m is a dodgy estate agent trying to con a confused old pensioner..

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1 hour ago, Mr Saints said:

He was the one we’d never sell, and if we do we may aswell relegate ourselves. 

We sold VVD and Mane.  We can certainly sell Prowsey.     His general game is very replaceable; his dead ball game not so easy to replace.   The Club would surely consider 40 million pounds.

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1 minute ago, austsaint said:

We sold VVD and Mane.  We can certainly sell Prowsey.     His general game is very replaceable; his dead ball game not so easy to replace.   The Club would surely consider 40 million pounds.

JWP is worth more than that to Saints, we certainly wouldn’t be able to replace what he gives us for that.

With four years left on his contract it’s unlikely his market value will match what his value is to Saints, unless Villa end up blowing a large portion of the Grealish money on him.

After that the only way we lose him is if the player kicks up a fuss to force his way out. As long as it’s only Villa interested we’re unlikely to lose him that way either.

As things stand I think he’ll stay here this season.

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As ever, it will be down to the player. If JWP wants to move to Villa then it will happen because they have the cash to significantly up their first bid (which never gets accepted).

The only reason they make a second bid is if they have been encouraged that JWP would welcome the move. 

It will come down to how strong a desire that is.

The timing of his injury is an unfortunate coincidence I'm sure...

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20 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said:

JWP is worth more than that to Saints, we certainly wouldn’t be able to replace what he gives us for that.

With four years left on his contract it’s unlikely his market value will match what his value is to Saints, unless Villa end up blowing a large portion of the Grealish money on him.

After that the only way we lose him is if the player kicks up a fuss to force his way out. As long as it’s only Villa interested we’re unlikely to lose him that way either.

As things stand I think he’ll stay here this season.

Yes, as you say, the length of contract is a crucial factor.     It would certainly be hard to replace his dead ball game.  Bertrand was a good foil for corners and free kicks; who do we have in the current squad outside of JWP?   It's a big issue when we have minimal creativity in the team and are facing the loss of Ings.    Still think Saints would be tempted by 40 million.   Can't see JWP kicking up a fuss....he probably stays.

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If the chairman comes out and says we can't compete with the likes of Everton and Villa, but instead Burnley and Palace, why would any player want to stay with us? 

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31 minutes ago, angelman said:

If the chairman comes out and says we can't compete with the likes of Everton and Villa, but instead Burnley and Palace, why would any player want to stay with us? 

Because all 5 are midtable clubs who will never achieve anything?

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57 minutes ago, angelman said:

If the chairman comes out and says we can't compete with the likes of Everton and Villa, but instead Burnley and Palace, why would any player want to stay with us? 

What about if the chairman comes out and says that from now on the manager will only select players born within an SO postcode and also the club will now be known as lacrosse club for pensioners. Why would any player want to stay with us?

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23 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

What about if the chairman comes out and says that from now on the manager will only select players born within an SO postcode and also the club will now be known as lacrosse club for pensioners. Why would any player want to stay with us?

Still being a twat I see. Being supercilious isn't a great look, but it obviously gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, so crack on. 

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I don't think we sell Jwp for less than 60m and I also don't think he's leave us for a Villa team about to lose their only decent player .

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25 minutes ago, angelman said:

Still being a twat I see. Being supercilious isn't a great look, but it obviously gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, so crack on. 

Give me a shout when the chairman comes out and says we can't compete with Burnley and Palace. Let me know when that happens.

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20 minutes ago, angelman said:

Quite possibly but at least 2 think otherwise

One of those thought they were going to take over the world with their dugouts and warchests. If the fact that they ended up spending a big part of that warchest on a nonce doesn't slap them back to reality then nothing will. As for the other lot, their best player who has been at the club since he was 5, whose whole family supports them, had a grandfather who played for them and without whom their form was relegation standard is about to jump ship. They have been going on about ambition and how rich their owners are but not even their lifelong supporting star player believes it.

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1 hour ago, simo said:

I don't think we sell Jwp for less than 60m and I also don't think he's leave us for a Villa team about to lose their only decent player .

Depends what they offer in wages.

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1 hour ago, simo said:

I don't think we sell Jwp for less than 60m and I also don't think he's leave us for a Villa team about to lose their only decent player .

He is interested in the move. I know this for sure.

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1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

Villa are going to massively flop next year, with or without Grealish. 

They will without, maybe not relegation as Buendia should compensate for some of the lack of creativity but not sure about goals, they certainly looked decidedly average without him for that long period near the end of the season.

Kind of understandable why they are looking at someone like JWP, because he will add goals and assists from a different source with his set piece ability, so you'd likely have Buendia basically playing instead of Grealish, and then JWP playing in midfield, then between the two you'd reckon they would be creating enough chances to compensate. 

Can't see him going though to be honest, not sure we can really replace him and can't see them offering the £50 million plus it would take for us to even consider selling. 

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3 minutes ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

Villa must have had encouragement to make a bid from somewhere whether it be player or agents

He’d probably double his wage there. 

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54 minutes ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

Villa must have had encouragement to make a bid from somewhere whether it be player or agents

Interesting that Grealish / JWP share the same agent…

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52 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

He’d probably double his wage there. 

Absolutely. And he'll play every week. I doubt JWP would take the wages and be a rotated player which is why I think somewhere like Villa would tick a lot of boxes for him. 

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37 minutes ago, Shroppie said:

Out of interest, how do you know?

See my post earlier in the thread (think it was last month) It's come from a source who is close to his family.

As I previously said, I do not think he would force a move. If he did go though he would increase his wages and improve his chances of an England call up for the World Cup, as well join an ambitious club looking to qualify for Europe this season. 

A fair few reasons to go, IMO. 

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8 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

See my post earlier in the thread (think it was last month) It's come from a source who is close to his family. Sorry but cannot expand further.

As I previously said, I do not think he would force a move. If he did go though he would increase his wages and improve his chances of an England call up for the World Cup, as well join an ambitious club looking to qualify for Europe this season. 

A fair few reasons to go, IMO. 

Couldn't fault him for wanting to join a club showing ambition (such as Villa) rather than staying at our rudderless ship.

But I'll regard him a c^nt if he goes to Tottenham.

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39 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

See my post earlier in the thread (think it was last month) It's come from a source who is close to his family.

As I previously said, I do not think he would force a move. If he did go though he would increase his wages and improve his chances of an England call up for the World Cup, as well join an ambitious club looking to qualify for Europe this season. 

A fair few reasons to go, IMO. 

... plus his Academy mate Matt Targett is there.

Also don't forget he scored two free kicks against Villa last season so they know what they can get from him.

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