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Thing is Ole similar to us with Hughes got 10 games at Start but had pretty easy run of games so looked like a world beater (obviously not us under MH) when they went on excellent run, Thing is both clubs screwed up , Ole and Hughes should never have got there contracts, the time should of been used for identifying a suitable manager, the so called gegenpress or whatever hipsters call it is amazing....... if everybody and that includes keeper know there roles and triggers, if 1 or 2 can't be bothered it makes u more vulnerable similar to utd and why there getting picked apart,  Ole just didn't have the tactical nous and nor has Carrick, even the high press has its pitfalls , after 1.5 seasons fitness drops off Klopp had it at Dortmund in 2nd season with loads of injuries,  he also had same with Liverpool last year, Peps lucky as have essentially 2 excellent teams but we had it with Ralph, the 1st season we pressed superbly and the 1st Arsenal game was amazing watching  back at a far and seeing players trigger certain moments , it all worked,  we have since completely dropped off and only press in spells, Any new manager especially into a top team HAS to have an identity and that it has to work in epl, so many managers have been caught out with the pace and power of epl that they've ultimately lost there job , problem with Utd is they've no structure above manager its a shambles for a club that size, Citeh got all there structure in place 2 years b4 Pep came in, so he was able to walk in and crack on 

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3 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

Good point. Years ago nobody had heard of a manager 'losing the dressing room' and there were some very strong characters about in those days. So why does it seem to happen more and more in the modern game? Are the players earning too much money? Has social media inflated their egos? If you can believe paper talk, Poch is struggling to cope with big personalities like Neymar, Mbappe and Messi at PSG so if he goes to United will it just be more of the same rubbish on the pitch?  Oh, I do hope so. 😁

Wasn’t it Alan Ball who said that he realised that he was talking to a bunch of millionaires and that he was wasting his time trying to inspire them?

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1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Wasn’t it Alan Ball who said that he realised that he was talking to a bunch of millionaires and that he was wasting his time trying to inspire them?

I have huge respect for what Bally did for us but he's talking nonsense there. Do Guardiola or Klopp struggle to motivate their players? Those players work their arses off

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5 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

Good point. Years ago nobody had heard of a manager 'losing the dressing room' and there were some very strong characters about in those days. So why does it seem to happen more and more in the modern game? 

Money certainly, but more so freedom of movement due to the Bosman case, surely it all comes down to that. Instant power shift from the clubs to the players who are free to run down their contracts if they so wish.

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After revisiting Hughes' record here, I can again understand why he hasn't had a club since. Just the five wins in 27 matches, an 18.5% win percentage. Jeez, we gave that man a three year deal. Worse than Pellegrino's 25% win record from 35 matches.

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2 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Perhaps because Klopp and Gaurdiola are multi millionaires as well.

If Ball was unable to motivate his players then he either had a bad group or he wasn't saying the right things. I don't see that it has anything to do with their or his wealth.

As Mystic Forces said, players still like winning and they must have had some motivation to get to that level

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