Che Adams

[manji]

Che scores again for Scotland. Commentators purring about his performance. Then he scores a magnificent goal.

[Give it to Ron]

Good scuffer then set up Stu but a brilliant block defender

Edited 15 November, 2021 by Give it to Ron

[manji]

Counter attack Che passes to Stuart Armstrong who nearly scores.

[manji]

Amazing defensive header by Che that set up the counter attack that Che scores in….

[The Cat]

He was magnificent from what I watched. Ran his socks off, held up play really well and scored a great goal.

Also pulled off a Le Tissier like piece of control under pressure from a huge punt which was sublime.

Edited 15 November, 2021 by The Cat

[TWar]

Che is terrific. With him and Armstrong we have a legitimately good strike partnership forming, just needs a little more time to gel. Broja off the bench for when they are blowing due to the intense press, he can score a hatful too. 

[Give it to Ron]

Good through ball from Armstrong loved the way Che took it across defender and smashed past Schmeichel like a good Championship striker should

[manji]

Just watched the replay of the goal. Through ball from Stuart.

 

[manji]

sorry bit excitable at the moment.

 

[Saint Keef]

Che is fast becoming a Scotland legend. I know there are people on here who think at best he is Championship level and only ever "scuffs" his goals, but for every goal he scores whether it be for us or Scotland, his value rises and that can only be good news for us. And he has the knack of hitting "Worldies" as well. Congrats Che!

Edited 15 November, 2021 by Saint Keef
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[TWar]

He had one touch in this game which was sensational. All game though his hold up play, strength, and aerial ability were causing Denmark problems.

[Dman]

5 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

Che is fast becoming a Scotland legend. I know there are people on here who think at best he is Championship level and only ever "scuffs" his goals, but for every goal he scores whether it be for us or Scotland, his value rises and that can only be good news for us. And he has the knack of hitting "Worldies" as well. Congrats Che! No

His value will always be capped because no premier league sides other than a handful that are facing a relegation battle, would buy him. 
 

Other than Norwich, Watford and maybe Burnley and Brighton, he doesn’t get into another premier league side, imo. 
 

Great goal tonight though. Seems to be playing with confidence which can only be a good thing for us. 

[Nordic Saint]

16 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

Che is fast becoming a Scotland legend. 

True. This is the first time for 90 years that Scotland have won 6 consecutive games and Che is spearheading the team.

[eurosaint]

Che was brill tonight in stark contrast to Vestergaard who had a mare !

The pundits slagged him off for his part in both Scotland’s goals 😃

[sydenhamssocks]

25 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

Che is fast becoming a Scotland legend.

Lot of love for him up here in Scotland. Has fitted well into Steve Clarke’s plans,Stuey with the through ball topped off a good night for Saints in Scotland 🔴⚪️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[Dellman]

Che is a workhorse first and a goalscorer second and at present he is doing both well.

[S-Clarke]

Cracking finish for that goal tonight, looks like he's settled to life at international level. Nice to see two Saints lads linking up as well.

Definitely a bit of a golden period for Scotland, they should make the most of it after many decades in no mans land!

[doc oli]

Vestergaard on that goal! Failed offside trap and then a trot back slower than Pepe Reina! 

[Saint Keef]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

His value will always be capped because no premier league sides other than a handful that are facing a relegation battle, would buy him. 
 

Other than Norwich, Watford and maybe Burnley and Brighton, he doesn’t get into another premier league side, imo. 
 

Great goal tonight though. Seems to be playing with confidence which can only be a good thing for us. 

I get what you're saying, but I reckon you could add Palace and Leeds in there. And actually, I wouldn't rule West Ham out, who only really have Antonio as an out and out striker and and as they progress through Europe they may well need more cover. Moyes likes hard workers! Haha....and of course, if Danny Ings doesn't work out at Villa maybe they would want a "swap" deal for Che (only joking before you all jump down my throat!) Danny + ££££ for Che would be hilarious. 

[OttawaSaint]

Anyone notice that Glasgow stopped posting on here the moment Che joined us?

Coincidence, I think not...

Seriously though, what a fantastic performance and Scotland now 2 games from a second finals tournament in a row after over 20 years without. 

Tonight was crucial because now Scotland avoid Italy, Portugal and Russia and be at home in the semis.

Edited 16 November, 2021 by OttawaSaint

[Dellman]

47 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

I get what you're saying, but I reckon you could add Palace and Leeds in there. And actually, I wouldn't rule West Ham out, who only really have Antonio as an out and out striker and and as they progress through Europe they may well need more cover. Moyes likes hard workers! Haha....and of course, if Danny Ings doesn't work out at Villa maybe they would want a "swap" deal for Che (only joking before you all jump down my throat!) Danny + ££££ for Che would be hilarious. 

No thank you for Danny, we had his best years and they are over, we are on a new page now.

[CB Fry]

Didn't realise how complicated the play off stages are.

Still twelve teams in it for three slots.

Scotland at least guaranteed a home draw but still looks entirely within their power to choke it.

[Saint Keef]

4 hours ago, Dellman said:

No thank you for Danny, we had his best years and they are over, we are on a new page now.

Absolutely agree.....I was saying it would be hilarious if they offered that......I'm not saying we would accept......nor should we. Thanks, but no thanks!

[Dman]

8 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

I get what you're saying, but I reckon you could add Palace and Leeds in there. And actually, I wouldn't rule West Ham out, who only really have Antonio as an out and out striker and and as they progress through Europe they may well need more cover. Moyes likes hard workers! Haha....and of course, if Danny Ings doesn't work out at Villa maybe they would want a "swap" deal for Che (only joking before you all jump down my throat!) Danny + ££££ for Che would be hilarious. 

Personally, I think Eduoard and Antonio are streets ahead of him and bamford, as a striker is also better. 

That being said, he probably would interest a lot of clubs as a back up, but again, his value will always be capped and I don’t think we’d get a great deal more than we paid (wasn’t it in the region of 10m?) 

He seems like a decent enough bloke, so a decent lad to have around the squad, however for me we should be starting with Armstrong and Broja. Broja is a top, top player. 

[Saint Garrett]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

Personally, I think Eduoard and Antonio are streets ahead of him and bamford, as a striker is also better. 

That being said, he probably would interest a lot of clubs as a back up, but again, his value will always be capped and I don’t think we’d get a great deal more than we paid (wasn’t it in the region of 10m?) 

He seems like a decent enough bloke, so a decent lad to have around the squad, however for me we should be starting with Armstrong and Broja. Broja is a top, top player. 

But; he has an attitude problem, turns up late, and doesn't like hard work.  On top of that, he's on loan.  Although we have to look at whats best right now, we have to balance it with what is best for the club in the future.  I have no problem with that, and the competition can only be a good thing.

I disagree with you that Adams value is capped. It is as of his current quality, but he's already improved a lot since we bought him.  If he can become a better finisher (like last night, proper goalscorers finish) he could easily be an option for clubs further up the league.  The biggest frustration for me, is he snatches at chances, and has always just hit it hard rather than placing the ball in the corner.  But that finish last night was exactly that.

[TWar]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

Personally, I think Eduoard and Antonio are streets ahead of him and bamford, as a striker is also better. 

That being said, he probably would interest a lot of clubs as a back up, but again, his value will always be capped and I don’t think we’d get a great deal more than we paid (wasn’t it in the region of 10m?) 

He seems like a decent enough bloke, so a decent lad to have around the squad, however for me we should be starting with Armstrong and Broja. Broja is a top, top player. 

Che is better than Eduoard for me. He's stronger, dribbles better, is smarter and passes better. Edouard has better finishing but thats about it. To be honest I'd put Che on par with the likes of Watkins and Bamford. He's absolutely quality at what he does. He also is much better at getting a tune out of Ings than any Villa player atm.

Regarding our strikeforce. Che is a better player and better partner for Armstrong and will be starting up there for the foreseeable I should imagine.

[TWar]

9 hours ago, Dellman said:

No thank you for Danny, we had his best years and they are over, we are on a new page now.

Yeah we don't need an injury prone crocked striker. We have so much promise in our front line, we need to develop Adam Armstrong for that Ings role, with his raw pace and two footedness he's going to be a star.

[Charlie Wayman]

11 hours ago, Dman said:

His value will always be capped because no premier league sides other than a handful that are facing a relegation battle, would buy him. 
 

Other than Norwich, Watford and maybe Burnley and Brighton, he doesn’t get into another premier league side, imo. 
 

Great goal tonight though. Seems to be playing with confidence which can only be a good thing for us. 

Don't be too sure about that!

[CAH61]

I really think that this could be Che's breakthrough in the PL and he could have a JRod circa 2013/14 type season as regards to goals. He is clearly a confidence player and it must be sky high at this present time. He is certainly a top finisher when he is on it.

[Dman]

1 hour ago, TWar said:

Che is better than Eduoard for me. He's stronger, dribbles better, is smarter and passes better. Edouard has better finishing but thats about it. To be honest I'd put Che on par with the likes of Watkins and Bamford. He's absolutely quality at what he does. He also is much better at getting a tune out of Ings than any Villa player atm.

Regarding our strikeforce. Che is a better player and better partner for Armstrong and will be starting up there for the foreseeable I should imagine.

There’s a reason he chose to play for Scotland, pal. 

Both of those are much better finishers than Che. Che is fortunate in that we play with 2 strikers, so he can get away without scoring. He doesn’t get in as a sole striker for any team and he simply doesn’t score enough goals. 

Id put him in the same bracket as an Ashley Barnes. 

Che clearly isn’t a better player than Borja. That’s absolutely laughable and you’re talking absolutely biased (as usual) nonsense. 

You have an issue with Borja because he’s not our player. You even claimed he had less potential than Armstrong and Adams, which again, is clearly complete and utter nonsense. 

[Saint Garrett]

I think it depends on how you define “better player”. Personally I think Adams is the better all round player, but Broja is a better finisher for sure. Adams gets more out of the players around him too.

Adams has shown himself to be a pretty streaky striker, so hopefully he can go into the next few months and grab a few. If he can get 12-15 this season, I think that’s a decent return given his positive impact on the rest of the team. 

[st alex]

7 minutes ago, Dman said:

There’s a reason he chose to play for Scotland, pal. 

Both of those are much better finishers than Che. Che is fortunate in that we play with 2 strikers, so he can get away without scoring. He doesn’t get in as a sole striker for any team and he simply doesn’t score enough goals. 

Id put him in the same bracket as an Ashley Barnes. 

Che clearly isn’t a better player than Borja. That’s absolutely laughable and you’re talking absolutely biased (as usual) nonsense. 

You have an issue with Borja because he’s not our player. You even claimed he had less potential than Armstrong and Adams, which again, is clearly complete and utter nonsense. 

Thought the point was if he carries on scoring his value will go up? In other words, if he improves he'll be a better player.

And his value would go up regardless of who other teams have up front. Especially if he starts out scoring other team's strikers then in all likeliness they'd want him (whether they'd get bid for him or get him is a separate matter).

[TWar]

34 minutes ago, Dman said:

There’s a reason he chose to play for Scotland, pal. 

Both of those are much better finishers than Che. Che is fortunate in that we play with 2 strikers, so he can get away without scoring. He doesn’t get in as a sole striker for any team and he simply doesn’t score enough goals. 

Id put him in the same bracket as an Ashley Barnes. 

Che clearly isn’t a better player than Borja. That’s absolutely laughable and you’re talking absolutely biased (as usual) nonsense. 

You have an issue with Borja because he’s not our player. You even claimed he had less potential than Armstrong and Adams, which again, is clearly complete and utter nonsense. 

He plays for Scotland as he is eligible to do so and realises he won't get past Kane, DCL, Rashford and in the future Abraham. That doesn't make him worse than Bamford or Watkins who themselves don't make the squad beyond a couple of token cameos for friendlies.

They finish better than Che, but they don't create nearly as much or has as much ability to link and stretch play. There is more to a strikers role than putting the ball in the net, especially in a pair.

If you'd put him in the same bracket as Barnes I'd put you in the same bracket as a nutter, or a troll. Barnes doesn't even start for a relegation threatened Burnley. Maybe in the same bracket as Wood would be fairer but even then is a fair undersell. 

Che is easily better than Broja, he creates an absolute tonne more. Broja is a decent finisher but there isn't any other aspect of his game where he comes close to Adams.

He does have less potential than Adams and Armstrong, he's a good finisher but that's about it. He has a bit of overhype from a couple of good games and scoring a couple of goals but he hasn't at all proven to be better long term than Armstrong or Adams yet. You keep saying he's amazing as if it is fact. 

Edited 16 November, 2021 by TWar

[saintwbu]

Watkins is no better a finisher than Adams, he just gets a hell of a lot more chances. It’s why Watkins got shifted out wide as soon as Ings arrived, because Ings is a far superior striker to him. Wonder if Che’s eventual move one day would be up to Celtic, he seems to be becoming very popular in Scotland. Really pleased for him.

[ErwinK1961]

41 minutes ago, Dman said:

There’s a reason he chose to play for Scotland, pal. 

Both of those are much better finishers than Che. Che is fortunate in that we play with 2 strikers, so he can get away without scoring. He doesn’t get in as a sole striker for any team and he simply doesn’t score enough goals. 

Id put him in the same bracket as an Ashley Barnes. 

Che clearly isn’t a better player than Borja. That’s absolutely laughable and you’re talking absolutely biased (as usual) nonsense. 

You have an issue with Borja because he’s not our player. You even claimed he had less potential than Armstrong and Adams, which again, is clearly complete and utter nonsense. 

Irony not lost on you.

[TWar]

2 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Watkins is no better a finisher than Adams, he just gets a hell of a lot more chances. It’s why Watkins got shifted out wide as soon as Ings arrived, because Ings is a far superior striker to him. Wonder if Che’s eventual move one day would be up to Celtic, he seems to be becoming very popular in Scotland. Really pleased for him.

Maybe if he's near the end of his career. Che is already too good for Celtic imo. He starts for us and we are well established to be higher in the pecking order than them when it comes to player signings, it's why we dumped our struggling bench choices (Elyounoussi/Forster) to start for them, and they sell their best (VvD/Wanyama/Forster) to play for us.

[TWar]

4 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Watkins is no better a finisher than Adams, he just gets a hell of a lot more chances. It’s why Watkins got shifted out wide as soon as Ings arrived, because Ings is a far superior striker to him. Wonder if Che’s eventual move one day would be up to Celtic, he seems to be becoming very popular in Scotland. Really pleased for him.

I think Watkins is vastly overrated. I honestly believe near enough anyone in the league would get a bunch of goals playing up top in a team with Jack Grealish.

[Totton Saint]

16 hours ago, manji said:

Che scores again for Scotland. Commentators purring about his performance. Then he scores a magnificent goal.

The move leading up to Che's goal was scintillating, crowned by a super shot from Che who had to be very quick to run onto SA's pass before the defender got to it. The whole team excelled themselves. You could say the manager made an inspired substitution with SA coming on. I now live inScotland and the game had added meaning for me.

[Totton Saint]

The excited commentators especially at the final whistle all added to the sense of joy and wonderment surounding the whole game. Come on Che, score against Norwich!

[Nordic Saint]

14 minutes ago, Totton Saint said:

The move leading up to Che's goal was scintillating, crowned by a super shot from Che who had to be very quick to run onto SA's pass before the defender got to it. The whole team excelled themselves. You could say the manager made an inspired substitution with SA coming on. I now live inScotland and the game had added meaning for me.

I've just been speaking to a Danish fan who was at Hampden. He was very impressed by Che Adams and also said it was the best atmosphere he'd ever experienced at a game.

[manji]

23 hours ago, Totton Saint said:

The move leading up to Che's goal was scintillating, crowned by a super shot from Che who had to be very quick to run onto SA's pass before the defender got to it. The whole team excelled themselves. You could say the manager made an inspired substitution with SA coming on. I now live inScotland and the game had added meaning for me.

the defender was Vestergaard. 

Edited 17 November, 2021 by manji

[The Left Back]

Just watched the highlights.

Adams looked to have a brilliant game and is clearly in good form.  His hold up play, coolness and work rate were brilliant, but what I really liked was his finish for the goal.  We've said he's not as good at Broja or Ings at finishing but that was their quality and against a fine goalkeeper.

Have to say thought that Vesty's 'defending' for that move was criminal.  After playing Adams onside he needed to bust a gut to make up for the error.  Instead he engages in a slow jog toward the ball, and then puts up his arm when there goal goes in.  It's truly bewildering for an international footballer to offer so little - made me think he must have had a few Krona on 2-0.

Anyway back to Adams, he'll be buzzing for the Norwich match (as will both Armstrongs) and I can see him scoring there too.

[TWar]

21 minutes ago, The Left Back said:

Just watched the highlights.

Adams looked to have a brilliant game and is clearly in good form.  His hold up play, coolness and work rate were brilliant, but what I really liked was his finish for the goal.  We've said he's not as good at Broja or Ings at finishing but that was their quality and against a fine goalkeeper.

Have to say thought that Vesty's 'defending' for that move was criminal.  After playing Adams onside he needed to bust a gut to make up for the error.  Instead he engages in a slow jog toward the ball, and then puts up his arm when there goal goes in.  It's truly bewildering for an international footballer to offer so little - made me think he must have had a few Krona on 2-0.

Anyway back to Adams, he'll be buzzing for the Norwich match (as will both Armstrongs) and I can see him scoring there too.

Yeah Vestergaard has been dreadful since leaving us. It's incredible that for all the signings we made our biggest upgrade was just a sale which allowed a benched player to step up. Salisu is so much better than Vest it's amazing.

[miserableoldgit]

17 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

Che is fast becoming a Scotland legend. I know there are people on here who think at best he is Championship level and only ever "scuffs" his goals, but for every goal he scores whether it be for us or Scotland, his value rises and that can only be good news for us. And he has the knack of hitting "Worldies" as well. Congrats Che!

Anyone who genuinely thinks this needs to give their heads a wobble. Someone needs to do a video of his Saints goals.

[Sheaf Saint]

59 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

Anyone who genuinely thinks this needs to give their heads a wobble. Someone needs to do a video of his Saints goals.

Pretty sure nobody does. It's just a running joke based on some absurd comments someone on here made before we signed him.

Edited 16 November, 2021 by Sheaf Saint

[TWar]

13 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Pretty sure nobody does. It's just a running joke based on some absurd comments someone on here made before we signed him.

Pretty sure SKDMan does, then again he also thinks Pompey are better run than us and that Ralph is a worse manager than the guy who was in charge of San Marino....

[The Left Back]

46 minutes ago, TWar said:

Pretty sure SKDMan does, then again he also thinks Pompey are better run than us and that Ralph is a worse manager than the guy who was in charge of San Marino....

...and that we only got promoted from league 1 cos we had 3/4 top premier league players in the team

[Minsk]

On 15/11/2021 at 21:58, Dman said:

His value will always be capped because no premier league sides other than a handful that are facing a relegation battle, would buy him. 
 

Other than Norwich, Watford and maybe Burnley and Brighton, he doesn’t get into another premier league side, imo. 
 

How unlike you to jump on a positive thread about a Saints player and start running said player down. 🙄 Almost as if you have some sort of agenda about Saints supporters being positive about Saints players, or anything Saints for that matter! What does anything from the quote above have to with how Che performed for Scotland last night? Why did you feel the need to start with those sentences (before then admitting he scored a good goal)? Maybe you were craving attention? Or, dare I say it, 'Trolling'?

On 16/11/2021 at 07:45, Dman said:

Personally, I think Eduoard and Antonio are streets ahead of him and bamford, as a striker is also better. 

That being said, he probably would interest a lot of clubs as a back up, but again, his value will always be capped and I don’t think we’d get a great deal more than we paid (wasn’t it in the region of 10m?) 

He seems like a decent enough bloke, so a decent lad to have around the squad, however for me we should be starting with Armstrong and Broja. Broja is a top, top player. 

Is Antonio 'streets ahead of Che'? He is certainly outscoring him so far this season. But let's look at some facts. Antonio is certainly a lot more experienced, and 6 years older, than Che. When West Ham signed him (when he was the age Che is now) he scored 8 Premier League goals in his first season. In his second he scored 9; in his third he scored 3; in his fourth he scored 6; in his fifth he scored 10. Last season, his sixth, he also scored 10. Thus far this season he has 6. As we know, after a very barren start, Che scored just the 4 Premier League goals in his first season in the top flight - but they were all in a 6 match spell. In his second season he scored 9, just as Antonio did in his. I would put my house on him scoring more than 3 goals this season! So, looking at in context, Antonio is in better form right now but I certainly wouldn't say 'streets ahead'. There's a reason Antonio opted to play for Jamaica, pal!

As for Eduoard, what is that based on? His brace against a tired, 10 man, Spurs defence missing all 4 of their CBs? Or his goals for Celtic when they were running rampant up there?

As for Broja - in another thread you claim that we shouldn't look at how good individual players are but how they integrate into a team. (This based upon Diallo having a decent match against a Leeds side missing their main midfielder). Yet here, you are saying the saying the opposite. That Broja should be picked ahead of Che because (you believe) he is the better finisher; whilst ignoring the argument about what each brings to the team as a whole. Can't have it both ways. Which is it? Better player or better contribution to the team? For what it's worth, I'm just happy we have the options. Going by form and fitness on Saturday we should start with Che and Adam. If he is fit, bring Broja off the bench for the last 20 or so. It's a squad game. Let them fight for their place in the starting 11. If playing well they stay in.

Edited 17 November, 2021 by Minsk
amending spelling mistake

[Toadhall Saint]

3 minutes ago, Minsk said:

How unlike you to jump on a positive thread about a Saints player and start running said player down. 🙄 Almost as if you have some sort of agenda about Saints supporters being positive about Saints players, or anything Saints for that matter! What does anything from the quote above have to with how Che performed for Scotland last night? Why did you feel the need to start with those sentences (before then admitting he scored a good goal)? Maybe you were carving attention? Or, dare I say it, 'Trolling'?

Is Antonio 'streets ahead of Che'? He is certainly outscoring him so far this season. But let's look at some facts. Antonio is certainly a lot more experienced, and 6 years older, than Che. When West Ham signed him (when he was the age Che is now) he scored 8 Premier League goals in his first season. In his second he scored 9; in his third he scored 3; in his fourth he scored 6; in his fifth he scored 10. Last season, his sixth, he also scored 10. Thus far this season he has 6. As we know, after a very barren start, Che scored just the 4 Premier League goals in his first season in the top flight - but they were all in a 6 match spell. In his second season he scored 9, just as Antonio did in his. I would put my house on him scoring more than 3 goals this season! So, looking at in context, Antonio is in better form right now but I certainly wouldn't say 'streets ahead'. There's a reason Antonio opted to play for Jamaica, pal!

As for Eduoard, what is that based on? His brace against a tired, 10 man, Spurs defence missing all 4 of their CBs? Or his goals for Celtic when they were running rampant up there?

As for Broja - in another thread you claim that we shouldn't look at how good individual players are but how they integrate into a team. (This based upon Diallo having a decent match against a Leeds side missing their main midfielder). Yet here, you are saying the saying the opposite. That Broja should be picked ahead of Che because (you believe) he is the better finisher; whilst ignoring the argument about what each brings to the team as a whole. Can't have it both ways. Which is it? Better player or better contribution to the team? For what it's worth, I'm just happy we have the options. Going by form and fitness on Saturday we should start with Che and Adam. If he is fit, bring Broja off the bench for the last 20 or so. It's a squad game. Let them fight for their place in the starting 11. If playing well they stay in.

Wasting your time - the mods dealt with him before - same will happen soon. I don’t mind a difference of opinion but the constant bashing of the team/players he is supposed to support is somewhat tiring to say the least.

[TWar]

5 minutes ago, Minsk said:

How unlike you to jump on a positive thread about a Saints player and start running said player down. 🙄 Almost as if you have some sort of agenda about Saints supporters being positive about Saints players, or anything Saints for that matter! What does anything from the quote above have to with how Che performed for Scotland last night? Why did you feel the need to start with those sentences (before then admitting he scored a good goal)? Maybe you were carving attention? Or, dare I say it, 'Trolling'?

Is Antonio 'streets ahead of Che'? He is certainly outscoring him so far this season. But let's look at some facts. Antonio is certainly a lot more experienced, and 6 years older, than Che. When West Ham signed him (when he was the age Che is now) he scored 8 Premier League goals in his first season. In his second he scored 9; in his third he scored 3; in his fourth he scored 6; in his fifth he scored 10. Last season, his sixth, he also scored 10. Thus far this season he has 6. As we know, after a very barren start, Che scored just the 4 Premier League goals in his first season in the top flight - but they were all in a 6 match spell. In his second season he scored 9, just as Antonio did in his. I would put my house on him scoring more than 3 goals this season! So, looking at in context, Antonio is in better form right now but I certainly wouldn't say 'streets ahead'. There's a reason Antonio opted to play for Jamaica, pal!

As for Eduoard, what is that based on? His brace against a tired, 10 man, Spurs defence missing all 4 of their CBs? Or his goals for Celtic when they were running rampant up there?

As for Broja - in another thread you claim that we shouldn't look at how good individual players are but how they integrate into a team. (This based upon Diallo having a decent match against a Leeds side missing their main midfielder). Yet here, you are saying the saying the opposite. That Broja should be picked ahead of Che because (you believe) he is the better finisher; whilst ignoring the argument about what each brings to the team as a whole. Can't have it both ways. Which is it? Better player or better contribution to the team? For what it's worth, I'm just happy we have the options. Going by form and fitness on Saturday we should start with Che and Adam. If he is fit, bring Broja off the bench for the last 20 or so. It's a squad game. Let them fight for their place in the starting 11. If playing well they stay in.

Completely agree with all of this, some great points. Especially the bit about Broja as a great option off the bench. Having Armstrong and Adams as our first choice and Redmond and Broja to back them up is probably the best forward line we've had in overall quality since Mane/Tadic/Pelle