Feyenoorder

I'd say I was insulted by the offer made by another team if the transfer didn't work out' date=' too.. [/quote']

 

They are insulted by the offer because it's an insulting offer. Even Feyenoord-fans themselves are offended.

The loan-offer Southampton made was a lower amount of money then what Feyenoord is currently receiving for their loaned out 3rd goalkeeper.

This is one of our biggest youth products with a dutch team cap and almost 100 official matches under his belt at the age of 20. It's pretty laughable.

 

Didn't his agent come crawling to Koeman like worm, begging him to bring this bro to England?

 

No.

 

A low offer is business.

 

As said in this same thread somewhere above, if Wenger pulled the same stunt with Schneiderlin, would you still approve?

 

Interesting, and commendable, that Agents in Holland are decent, honest and truthful upstanding citizens.

 

Over here in England they usually talk complete rubbish for their own biased objectives.

 

I appreciate the sarcasm, but Feyenoord's director comfirmed the offers in an interview. He called out Southampton on wasting his time.

 

Also, despite beliefs to the contrary we did not have lots and lots of money to spend in January if we are going to show a FFP profit for this season and I believe there are good reasons to do so if we think we might qualify for Europe.

 

This makes sense. Look, I understand the semi-sarcastic responses on what happened here.

I'm just stating my annoyances and I hope next time your director can come up with something more respectful.

Doubt any offence was meant it's just the way things are in modern football we make offers for players as low as we think we can get away with while demanding top dollar for our own players every club is the same if they are honest. Do Feyenoord always pay the asking price for players they buy? Do they not start with a low offer when looking to buy a player?

When the player himself is insulted after being publicly unsettled, you've probably done something wrong. Understand that the player himself had to take the risk to step up mid-season and speak out to the fans that he would want to leave the team, only to be let down by Southampton.

More details about the transfer-offer now released by Vilhena's agent, who claims he and Vilhena are insulted by Southampton's offer as they felt he was only used as a cheap bargain option.

The first offer made by Les Reed was to sign Vilhena on a free loan for 6 months, with an option to possibly buy him in the future.

The second offer was £600.000x3 panned out over 3 years, meaning Feyenoord would have received £1.800.000 by the end of 2016. An added bonus of £300.000 if Southampton will reach the Champions League (!)

Now, I don't know exactly what Les Reed was thinking, but I think all he did was insulted both parties and in no way will Vilhena go to Southampton in the summer.

I'm sure that most Southampton fans won't really mind as they don't know Vilhena, but I think regardless of the player this is really bad manners from your director.

According to a reliable Dutch journalist with a lot of inside information on Feyenoord, Vilhena + agent have given up hope for anything to happen.

Southampton bid £2.2 million, Feyenoord expects a minimal of £5 million.

Unsettling a player, then showing up at the last day of the transfermarket and expecting to pick up a highly rated youngster for that low amount is a bit disappointing, really.

Update:

The reported 8 million euro fee again comes from Voetbal International, which is currently not a reliable source.

Like mr. Bailey says, it will happen, but it has still not been agreed.

Update:

Feyenoord currently working on Bas Dost as their replacement striker.

Pelle will move, but again, the Feyenoord TD van Geel is an insanely tough negotiator.

Well see who gives in first on the transfer fee, but the move is still 100% happening.

Update: There seems to be an issue in negotiations.

Feyenoord seem set on the very minimum of £8 million, where Southampton claim to not want to spend any cent more then €8 million, due to Pelle's age (almost 29) and the fact he has no sell-on value.

They seem to use Pelle to force a move, as he did not show up for a secondary Feyenoord event yesterday. (Could of course be completely by his own accord)

He does still show up in training. Feyenoord's TD is known for being a very harsh negotiator, so I'm confused why Southampton seems to be playing hardball. He will not be going for any less then the £8 mill.

The most overlooked factor however, are clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City that have started poaching our 14/15 year old supertalents, offering their parents jobs and the kids salaries of up to 40k p/w in salary.

Mostly because of that, it has become pretty much impossible for us to ever compete at the highest level again.

Just quoting myself because I wanted to add something to this, and I cant find the edit button.

You guys know that young Stefan de Vrij and Bruno Martins Indi that are currently bossing the Dutch team in the quarter finals?

Because Chelsea and Manchester City stole our best defensive talents, Karim Rekik, Nathan Ake and Jeffrey Bruma at the age of 16, Bruno Martins Indi and Stefan de Vrij were forced into the line up, originally considered second rate talents. Had City and Chelsea never showed up, de Vrij and Indi would never have played, and we would probably not be in this position at the world cup. So I guess I should thank them, while Bruma and Rekik and Ake had their first 4 important football years thrown away. I guess the money was worth it.

Feyen'er, I don't think anyone here has forgotten where we were a few years ago. However I do think you might be right about people's opinion of your league. I suspect that some might see it akin to the Scottish league. personally was well aware of your stadium capacity and average attendance. As for the two reasons you give for Pelle coming, you did leave out money. Money makes the world go round (unfortunately)! While you have European football, we have Sky TV money.

Ha, you are right, money is also a factor.

However, Pellé rejected 75k p/w from an Arabic club and continued at Feyenoord, so it's not the most important one for sure.

All fair comment. How are your clubs finances? my understanding was Feyenoord have had it tough financially the last few years so perhaps we err... stole one of your players because your club needs the money?

We have indeed been plagued by debt for the past 10 years due to heavy mismanagement, but on the way back with a 2nd, 3rd and 2nd place in the league for the last 3 years.

However, after very recently selling off Bruno Martins Indo to FC Porto for €8.5 million, we are now officially debt free and able to spend some decent transfer money and no need to sell players.

Of course, as mentioned above, we can never beat the Premier League TV money, which is has gotten so ridiculous now that a newly promoted Championship team recieves more TV money then Feyenoords entire financial balance.

We've certainly got a few f*ckwits on here that'll say anything to provoke a response but generally I'd say most respect the Dutch League but, and it's not all great, the obscene money sloshing around in the English Premier League 'should' make it a stronger league.

 

Having said that, the downside is English stadiums are sterile places these days (that must come as a shock to many foreign imports - cushioned by the wages of course!) and with average ticket prices between €45-€70, pricing out many genuine supporters.It's not exactly done our national side much good either.

 

And I would think most will respect the size and stature of Feyenord as a club, even with money available, £10m is a big outlay on a 29 year old.

 

For an unbiased opinion, how do you rate Tadic?

Oh, I defenitely agree that the PL is the greater league, by a long shot.

We used to be able to compete, but the difference in TV-money has indeed made it impossible.

The most overlooked factor however, are clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City that have started poaching our 14/15 year old supertalents, offering their parents jobs and the kids salaries of up to 40k p/w in salary.

Mostly because of that, it has become pretty much impossible for us to ever compete at the highest level again.

Tadic is a quality player who has it in him to become one of the best. His best quality aside from his great technique is his consistency.

I'm not a Twente fan, so I'm happy he's leaving. The guy was by far their most important and reliable player.

However, I also expected Ruiz to become big for Fulham, and that has backfired.

Thank you for the insight pal!

 

Do you think Pelle is likely to bang the goals in over here?

 

Apologies if it looks like we are disrespecting your league. Just look at the way the national team has played and you can see that the players must be up to standard! There has been a history of Dutch strikers being very hit and miss in the premier league mind and I would suggest that is where some of our doubts about imports from the Dutch league come from.

No worries!

I can completely understand why some fans are a bit reserved on Pelle because of the failures of Altidore. (I expected him to fail, he's a rather limited player)

However, Pelle and Altidore are however completely different players, the only thing they share is physique.

The difference is that Pelle makes other players play better due to his excellent link up play, intelligence and aerial threat.

He also boasts an incredible technique for his size and is a very confident finisher wiith both head and feet.

I don't think you can find a better striker anywhere for the price of £8 million.

£6-7m? Seems reasonable on recent form - not lived up to expectation earlier in career but, like Rickie, maybe coming to his best later in life. 29 in a couple of weeks.

Hi, Feyenoord supporter reporting in.

The €8 million euro transferfee is incorrect, it's actually around £8 million + a large amount of bonuses. (so pounds, and still on the low side)

The VI site should never be taken as fact, however Pellé is still heading for your club.

I would like to remind some (not all) of your supporters that Feyenoord is still a big historic club with a 50.000 capacity stadium that plays European football.

You should you be very happy you just stole one of their most important players of the last decade.

The two reasons he is moving to your club is because he really wants to play in the Premier League and because of Koeman.

I do really rate your club's great history but I could appreciate just a little bit more respect for the Dutch League and it's players.

Some of you seem to forget you were playing in the Championship only two years ago.