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Morgan's teddy has just knocked Haley's comet out of orbit. Can't see him playing for Saints again. Watching Arsenal yesterday there's a holding midfielder role to fill and that look like a more natural home for him ( cash + players preferably).

Dealing with Spurs ( ....Levy)is painful and is best avoided.

If RK wants him to stay then I'm sure he'll be offered a new contract. He's obviously decided that Jose is in his plans , perhaps he hasn't made his mind up about cork yet. Maybe he feels that he'll do for one year and then move him on , maybe he wants longer to judge him.

Cork is into his last year now so the club should either stick or twist i.e. either offer him a new contract on sensible terms now or sell him. Letting his contract run down to zero at the end of this season makes no financial sense when the club can get £5 million for him now.

Cork is he subject of a £5 million bid from Swansea. Les Reed is perplexed as he now realises it is stick or twist time and Cork is unlikely to re-sign in this febrile environment so Reed will have to deal. Koeman just wants his own people and doesn't rate the leaden footed Wanyama which is a little unfortunate given Corks imminent departure and Morgans posture. First real test tomorrow. Band of brothers no more.... .... All the cards up in the air -lets see how they fall.

Check out Bertrands best mate iamescobar on Instagram and you will understand why he has his career is upside down. It's all about the champagne, hos and partying for Mr B judging by the faux gangsta company he is keeping. Should be an excellent role model for the academy boys and excellent due diligence by Les Greed.

What bonus do you think Les Greed is on for these players sales? Even for him he looks incredibly happy with himself of late. The cat that got all the cream.........

In fairness to Les Greed, if his task was to flog lots of season tickets on the premise that we would hold onto most of our players and then sell most of them thereafter for hefty fees then he has done a good job. He may hit a wall of mistrust now though from supporters.

Yeah probably think they can maximise Reed and JWP sale price next summer by playing them every week.

Unless JWP doesn't improve on a relatively poor last season and Reed ...... Well who the **** knows as he has played only a few minutes of professional football. It will also be a lot harder for younger players to settle into a team where there has been such a huge change in personnel.

Arch cynics v Boy Scouts. A fight to the death......quick get your penknife and some twigs......grrrrrrrrr.

Bottom line is read Les Reeds quotes after the Everton game and watch that vomit inducing video he did in the light of what has gone on since.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck...........

Would you have even thought of posting this b**locks when we were third last year after back to back promotions, Premier League survival and playing some of the best football I can remember as a Saints fan? Because that was all on Les Reed's watch too.

Take a deep breath and remember that you are a Saints fan. Not a fourteen year old Man Utd plastic.

And how much of the last three years do you attribute to Les Reed? He has been a pretty peripheral figure until now as Cortese has run the show. Cortese himself was in turn lucky to have three very good mangers on the trot and a talented bunch of young and improving players. Reed has filled a void and his time is now. Not pretty is it?

It sort of begs the question, who is the biggest tosspot in football? I think mr Lesley Reed is well up there. Mourinho has become a parody of himself and for some reason the smug love in by the golf bores on match of the day gets right up my nose.

Reed is a self satisfied knob stick who has sold us all down the river and has my vote at present even though I am sure we will shortly ship over 4 or 5 more Dutch league players nobody has really heard of and a sort of bewildered calm will descend...... Until the season starts.

The current board remind me of the Vichy Government.

At least Cortese and MoPo had the integrity to say no **** off I am not doing that to the club. Les Greed has certainly lived up to his big reputation in the game ....

Don't know if this has been discussed elsewhere, but appears Fonte is a bit miffed with how his contract negotiations are going:

 

Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook · 11h

Think #saintsfc are gonna have an issue to confront with Fonte. Told he is unhappy about the way contract negotiations have been handled

 

Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook · 11h

Fonte has been informed he will be offered a new two-yeat deal but only by letter. Yet to speak to any #saintsfc official in person.

 

Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook · 11h

Also the wages #cardiff are willing to pay Fonte outweigh what #saints are offering.

 

Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook · 11h

The Fonte camp not the first to make mutterings about lack of communication at #saintsfc this summer clearly an issue that needs addressing

 

Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook · 11h

I hope #saintsfc can resolve any issues with Fonte and Cork. Cannot afford to lose any more big personalties from the dressing room.

 

I have absolutely no idea why Les Reed or any of the recruitment department seem to have such difficulty speaking to the players like human beings - social anxiety issues? It might sound a bit precious on the face of it, but there has clearly been a bit of a culture shock for the players in terms of how they were dealt with before the new board were appointed, and how they are dealt with now. This time last summer we had sewn up new contracts for Davies, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Boruc, Shaw, and Chambers, yet the new board have still been unable to tie one first-team player down to a new deal. A bit embarrassing that a Championship club is offering greater wages than we are willing to give Fonte. It needs sorting fast and the board need to start digesting some of the criticism they are getting from the local media. These are loyal, low-maintenance players we are talking about! Let's hope we don't get to January and Les Reed is still talking about being 'relaxed' about the situations with Cork, Fonte, and J-Rod's contracts.

The train is already leaving the station. Reed is clueless and Koeman is happy to bring in all his own players and let Reed dismantle a squad that finished 8 th last year. Crook is highly accurate. They are just lucky to have two highly professional players who have not spat the dummy despite their poor treatment. Both players and the supporters deserve better.

No need to offer new contracts to the only two who aren't wanted by anyone else is there ?

Both have interest and the club could get 5/6 million for the pair at least. At the end of the forthcoming season both can leave for nothing on a Bosman. Leaving them in limbo only adds to the low morale within the playing staff. Les Reed appears to be on some sort of power trip which makes no commercial or footballing sense as regards Fonte and Cork.

Other than that excellent analysis.

City

Chelsea

Arsenal

Liverpool

Saints 15th ( lower if we lose more than one of Morgan, Lovren, Cork and Fonte)

Villa

Burnley

Sunderland

Wigan

Norwich

Fulham

Reed was working on the "targets" , and achieved them He got rid of Lambert, Shaw and Lallana

 

Job done, apart from Lovren and Schneiderlin of course

+ Fonte and Cork......so basically a large part of the team that finished 8th last year.....we will become the new Newcastle but with clogs on and will finish nowhere near 8th.

If he's any good, we can hold Pochettino to ransom later when he wants to buy his son to play for him at whichever 'big' club he's managing by then.

By that time he will be a washed up old park bench alcoholic swilling special brew and barking at the moon... in drunken Spanish.

Difficult to judge anyone. They played a set of traffic cones.

Isn't it "cool man", whilst smoking a big fat Dutch doobie?

Why do you want new contracts for Cork and Fonte they are contracted next season are they not so perhaps we can replace them then with better players

 

I think your list is good but perhaps a wide player would be useful

Cork and Fonte are very good proven premiership players who will be needed to hold everything together unless you would prefer 11 strangers starting at the beginning of the season. Bear in mine that we have a hit rate of about 50% with replacements and this is a tough league to come to.

We need 7 currently (3 replacements, GK, CB, 2 strikers) and 9 if Lovren and Morgan really go. Im assuming for benefit of discussion that Cork and Fonte get contracts and stay.

A dangerous assumption. Cork and Fonte have been treated very poorly. It says a lot about Les Reeds emotional intelligence that probably the two most loyal decent players in the squad are seriously ****ed off by the club dicking them about and ignoring their requests over the last year or so. Watch this space and all of our own making.............

who will be FC Twente's and Feyenoord's penalty taker now?

Salford Van Hire & Rick O'Shea

Les Reed in April 2014.....I thought at the time that we were sleep walking into disaster.....

"As you know I am a member of the board and director of the Club and my responsibility is football.Currently I am responsible for transfers, I’m responsible for contract negotiations and all of those board level football matters that the Club is involved in.I work very, very closely with Mauricio [Pochettino]. We speak every day and sometimes for several hours in a day. We’re very close and talk a lot about all the matters that go on here. I think there’s a lot of misinformation out there that needs clearing up.The first point I’d like to make is that, with regards to Mauricio Pochettino’s contract negotiations, both Mauricio and myself – that (dealing with negotiations) is my role – are very happy with the way we are approaching it at the moment.Let’s clear it up because he (Pochettino) gets asked the same question every week. We talk every day. We are talking about everything to do with the future – planning, pre-season planning, the transfer strategy.No player will be brought into this club or leave without Mauricio and I discussing it and his agreement. We talk about that on a daily basis. We are planning for the future and for the long-term future.We would like to focus on the remaining games of this season and Mauricio has repeatedly said that and therefore we will pick up the details of any contract talks in the summer when the season is over.

The second point I’d like to make, and I would like to re-emphasise that we’re happy with that; both myself and Mauricio are happy with that so we can focus on the detail of pre-season, transfer-market planning and so on. We’re both comfortable with the situation.The second point I’d like to clear up is speculation in the press about our players. That is my responsibility. As we stand, there have been no enquiries, and we have had no bids, and we have had no offers for any of our players. That is accurate; that is the truth. That is exactly where we are.Reports that we are about to close deals on certain players and so on are totally misinformed, misleading, and are not true. No club has been given permission to talk to any of our players. So reports that some of our players are in the process of negotiating stellar transfer fees or contracts are absolutely misinformed.No club has been given permission to talk to any of our players. That will remain so. As far as the policy is concerned, we’ve had a great season. We want to build on that season. We want to improve the squad going forward.We want to retain the players we’ve got. They are all contracted. They all have existing contracts and we intend for them to honour those contracts. Any enquiries we get will probably be met with a ‘no – not for sale’. Our intention is to keep this very good team together and build on it by bringing new players to improve on that. Every transfer window, particularly in the summer, is difficult because everybody is out there trying to attract players. We have our targets. We want to improve the squad. These are things we’re discussing on a daily basis. We will tend to develop a squad that’s capable of not just maintaining the position we’re in but improving next season. Therefore, it’s a positive message we want to get out there. I think our fans deserve to understand that there is not going to be a fire-sale here. We have repeatedly said that.We’ve had no offers for players. Deals are not about to be concluded for any of our players and we want to keep all of our best players here at this club and build on that for the future.”

Hmmmm........

You would say that Adam.

Shouldn't it be Lallana's Left Peg Left. Right?

A we were able to get big fees due to long contracts

B Keeping happy and rewarding those who gave done well would be nice, rather than making them have to consider somewhere where they are wanted.

Precisely it makes no footballing or commercial sense to keep Cork and Fonte dangling on what is now less than 12 months of their contracts. We have lost Lambert, Shaw and Lallana with Lovren and Morgan highly likely to follow whether we like it or not , with Jay Rod out till November. Our best team in 20 or so years is being decimated. The more new faces we throw at this the less chance we have of making it a success. We need to build around the core of what we have left and that core needs to be strong and focused on he job in hand rather than being messed around on their contracts.

what a lot of nonsense, way off.......