Saint_Jonny

The vehicle was sold as spares / fixable and stated not to have an MOT. Millions of cars are sold as spares and repairs, they must be breaking the law too. It was up to the buyer to judge what was written on the ebay article.

haha I think he would have done so by now if he was planning on doing so. Also, when he threatened me on the phone I told him he'll go straight back to prison and I never heard from him again. The V5C is in the post. This thread is over.

The amount of abuse I'm getting over this is totally unbelievable. I took legal advice from a friend, I consulted with a load of REAL people (not internet warriors), and they all told me that once he drove it away, it was his problem, he takes it on the chin. He bought car without an MOT, he took the risk. What I unknowingly sold him is unfortunate, but NOT MY PROBLEM. I bought a Golf GTi a few years back for 2 grand, drove it 20 miles and the gear box casing cracked and ruined the clutch as well as the gearbox itself. I went back and asked for a refund, he told me to **** off, because he had no idea there was a problem with it. How is this any different?

I have been ripped off on cars in the past Hypo so it doesn't bother me. Out of interest what would you expect from the car sold in that ebay auction, what would you GENUINELY expect? For the 100th time, at the time of sale, what I put in that ebay auction was 100% accurate - to my knowledge.

Dune, i'm not getting anything. I'll do as people as people have suggested and send the V5C off and that'll be the end of it. As for the vigilante justice that was suggested, thankfully the recently out of jail chap doesn't know where I live, as I took the car to him.

Exactly, the guy that bought the car said himself that he would have no problem fixing whatever came up on the MOT because he "knew loads of mechanics". I would expect VERY LITTLE from a £550, 13 year old Citroen with 110k(ish) on the clock that had been owned by 19-22 year olds its entire life.

The amount of pedants and internet warriors on this forum is frightening.

I'm not decent though Dune, I am a 'sleezeball'.

I asked for advice on the issue over the V5C, which you have cleared up for me (thanks for that btw ). I've had to put my 'entrenched' viewpoint across because as per usual, the fine members of Saints Web picked apart the story until it was entirely out of hand and incorrect. Like I said, I asked about the V5C and not wanting to be legal owner for obvious reasons, a lot of what followed was not expected on my part as I don't think I did anything wrong. However I will admit that my choice of words in the Ebay add could have been better - but buyer beware - "should pass an MOT" is not exactly set in stone, is it. A learning experience this has surely been for me.

Also, it was a ****ing auction, what he chose to pay for the ****ing car is up to him! I wouldn't pay that much for a car with no MOT but I sure as heck would take the cash off someone offering it to me. And so would all of you (although you might pretend to be all high and mighty and offer to take less, you ****ing wouldn't)

I do hope that this post is a joke because if not, you are one truly sad individual with FAR to much time on your hands. The 'crack head' bought a car without an MOT for £550, it was sold as spares / fixable. Jesus Christ you lot are uptight. I couldn't have been any more honest than I was when selling the car. But as you lot seem to be implying, I am a dirty skate **** who is a pathological liar, a man never to be trusted - a lowlife, a 'sleezeball'. However the FACTS are its the first car I haven't scrapped (and as such sold), I am NOT a liar and am a perfectly trustworthy individual. How you can jump to 101 conclusions about stuff you have NO IDEA about is beyond me. I SOLD A CAR WITHOUT AN MOT - HE TOOK A RISK - IT DIDN'T PAY OFF. GET OVER IT.

Buctootim please just do one. You haven't got a clue what the full picture is so I think you should just keep it to yourself. I'm done debating this with you so kindly **** off and apply your personal misgivings to some other thread.

I think you've misunderstood the situation. How any of this of my fault I don't know.i sold a car, it turned out to be adudd, i'm within my rights not to give a refund. That's the end of it. The end.

That is your opinion, it seemed serious to me. A new tyre isn't serious, wishbone bushes and getting them fitted perhaps is. From what you guys are saying I should have peered into the future and seen what else was wrong with the car, and then put it all in the advertisement, as I have said I did not have the money at the time to even get the thing tested.

He can smack me in the mouth if he wants he'll just go straight back to Jail. The advice ebay's "care centre" gave me is that I shouldn't have anything to worry about, as given my knowledge of the car at the time of sale, I was honest. I was honest that, given my knowledge of the car at the time of sale, it would have gone through an mot with a small amount of work - I simply didn't have the capital to invest in getting it through the MOT, and luckily I was given my Grandads old car to use this year. He was a total mug for paying £550 for it, I'm happy to say that.

Sorry that was in reply to Buctootims citizen beuro quotation, the guy hasn't made an official complaint (to the police, or a small claims court, or even Ebay). Obviously he wants his money back and wont sign the document, that is obvious.

He came back with a list of faults and thats my fault how...? How many times do we have to go over this?

The guy at ATS looked it over when I went in about severe wheel wobble, he said it was the wishbone bushes that had faded, he showed me, he was right. That is all the trouble I knew about, I have a quote for getting the job done from ATS in Eastleigh. - in the MOT it came up that the drive shafts were bent and needed replacing - the fact that I didn't know about this is neither here nor their. The guy hasn't got a case against me, I know that for certain.

I think this is redundant given that he paid for the car getting on for 3 months ago, hes not made a complaint, he just wont sign the document.

£90 for the part is one thing but getting someone to fit them is quite another.

For the third time, for you and buctootim, and i'll shout so you can understand : AT THE TIME OF SALE I LISTED WHAT I KNEW TO BE WRONG WITH IT, I KNEW IT WOULD FAIL THE MOT FOR THESE THINGS. That is failed for MORE than the things I knew about is none of my concern - he bought it, he took the risk. It was sold as SPARES / easy fix, where is the lie there? I could fix a couple of wishbone bushes if I had a spare week and a Hanes manual, point is I didn't at the time - and that was the most serious thing I WAS AWARE OF at the time of sale.

No, what came up in his MOT of HIS car was more than I knew about, cant you get that through your THICK skull? I wouldn't lie to anybody, and I am annoyed you are painting me to the bad guy here. Girly maybe but a liar? No. @Scummer part of the deal was done outside of ebay, I had offers outside of ebay (from the saxo forum mentioned previously) of higher amounts, so the guy ended up paying £550.

Where did I lie to him? Its not a lie if I didn't have any knowledge of faults with the car beyond what I listed in the add, which was totally honest. Coming on here for advice and getting called a liar. Typical.

I agree I am partly to blame for this, I should have waited but circumstances forced my hand somewhat.

The ebay auction text is above, I copied it off of the Saxo forum I used to use, where the add was also placed. 2 years is a long time, and I didn't spend much on the car (being a student) to have it well kept. The wishbone bushes went walkabouts, and that, unknown to me, had all sorts of knock on affects on surrounding components - that is why the bloke wanted his money back. The car was sold SPARES AND REPAIRS - there is no coming back from that if you are then surprised when it fails the MOT. Here is the ebay link, turns out it was over 90 days ago, as you can see, it does not work: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180704342574