Weston Super Saint

My answer would be a mixture of the two, earths natural cycle being spread up and exaggerated by our actions.

 

There was an interesting report I saw somewhere about cows in california. Because of the amount of them there, and the amount of methene farts they produce, it was deduced by this report that these farts were producing more global warming than cars in that region(remember that methene is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than C02). I think though that what we are doing could be possibly sending the earth over it's natural limit for the greenhouse effect.

 

You have to remember that the greenhouse effect is a natural event, infact without it, the earths average temperature would be -18 and we wouldn't even be here now.

So just like the fridges were destroying the ozone layer and we were all going to die....

Ooooppppssss the ozone layer seems to be repairing itself...

Sorry, WSS. I didn't get that info from Wikipedia. I got it from my degree text books. An ice age is determined by certain temperatures, conditions, amount of ice as a percentage over the Earth's surface, and the advance and retreat of ice. We are not in an ice age.

To be fair, the various articles seem to suggest a 50 fifty split between the definitions.....

Good on the players, Poortvliet and Wilde.

 

All the best.

+1.

This is where you have to decide,

 

Global warming, is it?

 

A. Earths natural cycle

B. Caused by humans

C. Farting animals

 

But whatever the answer to that is, one thing is sure, we aren't going to benefit from any substantial temperature rise so it's something we have to pay attention to.

 

Another interesting factor that could help us is that if it does get hot enough the gulf stream could weaken and stop meaning it gets colder here cancelling out the warming.

A.....

Don't get me on the subject of the benefits system in this country. It is completely wrong.

 

Proof of this are my skanky ****ing cousins. The girl got sacked from Asda for stealing but now works at a Pub as an assistant manageress (so much for getting references for people), the mother doesn't work as she's agoraphobic and the ****** of an eldest son doesn't work either. The maximum he lasts at a job is 2 weeks and then it aggravates his bad back so he goes back on the sick for months at a time. Its funny that the bad back doesn't stop him ****ging whichever thick bint he's seeing at the time. He's got 4 kids with 3 different women and doesn't see any of them.

 

Rant over

Maybe you should highlight just how much money they earn in benefits

No, there have been several ice ages since then. The last one finished around 10,000 years ago.

 

EDIT: The natural state of the Earth is surely whatever it actually is at the present time. Depending on whether you factor in our influence as natural or not.

Nope...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

ice age is often used to mean a period of ice sheets in the northern and southern hemispheres; by this definition we are still in an ice age (because the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets still exist).

Try Victoria Pendleton from the cycling. She's nice.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

You don't have a clue, so I'll try to put you in the picture:

 

In today's economy, a loss is a given. Now it is about minimising losses, which Lowe is doing brilliantly.

LOL.

My business isn't making a loss.....

My company isn't making a loss....

In what made up world are these losses 'a given'??

Number 2.

 

She is by far teh hugliest, but she also looks teh dirtiest by a country mile!!!

2, 7 and 10 are fellas.

B0llocks - literally??

Help me out here, I'm trying hard to find a nice one, but to no avail....

Bloody rediculous juvenile thread. One of the most stupid comments possible.

I bet parties round your house are a hoot!

Explains why your still a virgin!

 

Let me introduce to you the opposite sex...

 

Women of the world, Saintandy666, Saintandy666 women of the world.

 

Knock yourself out

To be fair, I think that's been his problem to date

ok, on record... warmest on record!

 

Did you that when the dinosaurs were around, the average temperature on earth was 7 degrees hotter than todays standard.

And what wiped them out???

It is suggested that a large meteor hit the Earth, and the resulting dust cloud sealed out the sunlight for many years, triggering an ice age - we are currently still in it, although it is warming up - eventually we will warm up enough that the Earth resumes it's natural state - that is a state where there is no ice on the polar caps

Number 2.

She is by far teh hugliest, but she also looks teh dirtiest by a country mile!!!

Dodd and Gorman.

Or failing that God and Doorman....

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/947f2d6a-6d85-11dd-857b-0000779fd18c.html

 

WH Ireland, the Manchester-based stockbroker, slipped into a first-half loss because of sharply reduced turnover in its corporate finance and stockbroking divisions.

 

The group, which also announced it would halve its interim dividend to 1p, said it was "difficult to see an early end to the current malaise in the Anglo-Saxon economies".

 

Like other small and mid-cap stockbrokers, WH Ireland has suffered from a sharp drop-off in new listings on Aim. The group completed 17 transactions in the first half, including seven Aim initial public offerings and eight secondary fundraisings. Its stable of corporate clients shrank slightly to 74 companies, including 71 listed on Aim.

 

Laurie Beevers, chief executive, said: "The disappointment of the first half has been retail stockbroking" - which accounts for 70 per cent of revenue. "We're going with the market. Volumes tend to follow that."

 

In the six months to May 31, the group's pre-tax profit fell from £3.81m to a loss of £685,000, while turnover declined by a quarter from £21.5m to £16.2m.

 

And see the bold section Scooby, they make 70% of their revenue from Stockbroking, that is not an investment bank.

 

Lowe is extensively quoted on other sites, shouldn't he be concentrating on his other loss making business????

How many other dynamic company directors can claim to be in charge of not just one, but two loss making companies??

And some people still think he's good for us : roll :

Just imagine if your Mum was caught dogging by police in a tent on a beach. Loads of men having a go, and your Dad watching.... followed by a page spread in The Sun and Echo about your Mummy.

 

We still laugh at my friend to this day!

I love these 'my friend' stories

should of checked out Norfolks maddest man

Or London's

Tw*ts. Absolute bunch of tw*ts. This place is like a poor alternative comedians show. Every idiotic comment and narrow minded point of view ever held by any living being barely the next step up from a monkey is displayed on this site. There is a level of idicoy that makes you wonder why anyone would pay £5 to read the **** that is posted here. Thinly veiled and quite often blatant in it's stupidity. You people make me sick. You make me sick and yet inspire me to never set foot on this f*cking site again. A site so full of hypocrisy and bile it would confuse the most gifyed and talented in any field. F*cking idiots.

Racist : roll :

my first (admittedly not pleasant) thoughts were Karma and all that, but regardless of how abhorrent she is and has been in the past if what she claims to have is true then nobody deserves that.

 

all i want her to do is feck off out of the public eye so i dont have to see or hear about her.

1 in 3 people will be affected by it - according to the adverts - so why should she be so special and deserve public sympathy?

Global warming doesn't just mean warming. I prefer the term 'climate change'. That way you can factor in alot of other effects like global dimming, warming, rainfall changes and so on. And actually although it might not seem like it, it is getting hotter, 2007 was the warmest year worldwide ever. Whether this can be attributed to natural processes or us is another issue though. Another factor you need to consider at the present time is the la nina current. When this is prominent as it is now you would usually get a drop in temperatures, but because of current climatic conditions, scientists expect the temperature to stay where it is while this current is strong before temperatures resume rising later on.

 

I would say most of the stuff you hear about global warming is 50% fact, 50% overexaggeration. We're not all going to die but we are going to seriously screw ourselves if we aren't careful.

 

End of random and boring lecture. :S

Are you sure?

Warmest year EVER seems like one of those random made up FACTs!!!

What about the last time the polar ice caps were completely melted, I'm gonna put a fiver on that being warmer than 2007

I suspect you underestimate the whinging capabilities of our fans

 

So let's say 8 quid off a ticket - we have about 10000 season ticket holders don't we? http://www.channel4.com/news/article.jsp?id=2357467 So that was about 9000 walk up and away fans last saturday - so that's a match day income loss of 72,000 quid.

 

At 16 quid a ticket that's 4500 extra fans we'd need to turn up to break even on the plan. But the plan isn't to break even - it's to raise enough money over a season so that we don't have to sell players. I know Davies is gone but let's just take him as an example - could your idea of stopped us having to sell him?

 

That's about 1.5 million (inc wages) over 23 games or about 65k a game - or another 4 thousand fans per match. So if lowered ticket prices could lure in another 8500 or so fans every match we might have just saved enough money to keep Andrew Davies.

 

So that demands an attendance of around 27.5k per match throughout the season. Even with reduced prices I have difficulty in seeing that happen. Certainly if I were Mr. Bank Manager I'd be saying "nice try Mr. Weston Super Saint, but you're still going to have to sell players".

But your forgetting the incremental sales.....

Let's say we get 4,500 extra fans and they spend on average another £7 (program, pint, shirt in the shop, whatever), that's an additional £31,500 per game....

There is such a thing as the Earth Energy [or Heat] Budget. If more sunlight is not reflected or radiated back into space, then that budget increases. Increased pollutents, as in particulates and chemicals, dust and clouds contain the heat by impeding absorbed radiated heat from mainly land masses. Ice, oceans and seas reflect that sunlight back into space. Ice is the major reflector, having a high Albedo score:

 

http://www.carbon-info.org/carboninfo_029.htm

 

But due to several climactic, Earth driven, human influenced, factors, polar and land based ice is melting at increasing rates. This means sea level rises and lower altitudes for the remaining ice. Therefore it melts even quicker. Therefore there is less ice to reflect the sunlight back. Therefore..., well you get the idea. This is working as an isolated positive feedback system, and positive feedback systems don't keep themselves in check. Thankfully, this system isn't isolated; it relates and interacts with other Earth systems, that help to power it and keep it in check as well.

 

Which brings me to our lousy weather. Usually, the weather patterns we are currently experiencing are much further to the north. But we are getting the weather of north of the Shetland Isles. Why is this..? Well, try as I might, I can find no information that nails this down. Last year's lousy summer was blamed on the Jetstream being situated at a much lower latitude than it should be, and this would hold good for this year too as the weather patterns are near identical. But why is the Jetstream so low..? Well this is what I'm trying to track real evidence for and I can't find it. There is a bit of evidence for La Nina [not El Nino], but I don't buy it at present for various reasons. So at the moment I'm falling back on my old knowledge, but it is very fragmented, and the theories are getting on a bit, and I can't piece the interactions of the systems together, let alone explain them.

 

Polar ice is flowing into the polar seas and IMO could be majorly influencing the weather patterns, and indirectly, possibly causing both the Jetstreams that circle the planet to move from their accustomed latitudes. At the moment I can't quite see the connection. But it could be why the weather is so lousy. My weak subject was always global meteorology. Perhaps someone else can look it up. Here's an easy guide that might give an understanding:

 

http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/home.rxml

 

Anyway, what it all means is... that if it is locally colder than normal here, then it's locally hotter than normal elsewhere. The Heat Budget has to be settled somehow.

Where?

And, do you think they'll do a house swap?

I think it's a file path issue, we're looking into it.

Thanks.

Master Bates and I will be very happy :smt049

My football match tonight was called off due to a waterlogged pitch and the temperature hasn't been above 15 or something in ages. I can honestly say my first Swedish summer is not the best.

Bet you're looking forward to winter then!