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Joint title favourites, bookies are generally correct 😄

Title winners

Middlesbrough 10/1

Southampton 10/1

Ipswich 14/1

Norwich 14/1

Watford 14/1

West Brom 14/1

Stoke 20/1

Sunderland 20/1

Blackburn 25/1

Millwall 25/1

3 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

I understand perfectly the point he’s making 

70’000 people 

Ok, I know I’m going to regret this because it’s going to trigger a few people on here (like @SaintsLoyal), but I’ve spoken to Matt on this subject a few times. 

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 
 

Why is it that country by country, the higher the vaccine take up, the higher the excess deaths. 
 

What’s causing those excesses deaths and why aren’t we hearing about it from the guys that were constantly on our screens telling us about the excess death rate day in day out during covid? 
 

We know that only a tiny percentage of it is attributed to covid and missed appointments, especially now, so what’s the cause? 
 

Why all of a sudden, after decades of religiously publishing vaccine injury data every 6-8 weeks did this information suddenly disappear in May 2022 and hasn’t been updated until recently. 
 

All that needs to happen is to have an open debate between people who are looking at the data and seeing major problems, and those that are saying it’s just a conspiracy. 
 

If those that are saying there’s a problem are wrong, then debate them openly and publicly and show them/us why it’s wrong. 
 

I don’t think that’s much to ask, but it’s never going to happen. 

You're absolutely wasting your time on hear trying to debate this, even though excess deaths are about 2500 a week now as to 600 at the hight of the pandemic people will still ignore the facts.

Tiss said Vaccines aren't working and appear to have bad side effects in people and most called him a conspiracy loon and still are laughably!

16 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Yes, surprised they haven't made much mention of this. The last time I recall a manager talking like this was Redknapp (can't remember when, but probably when we were already in the Championship and still being shit).

Redknapp said Saints were doomed before he took over, we were in 12th when he joined I seem to recall...

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

Hopefully we can introduce the crowd movements too, going left and right then jump up and down and to the knee.

Would bring back memories of the Lallana chant. 

deffo some millage in this with our fanbase...

Baaaaza-nu-nu-nu plays in goal for Saints
Baaaaza-nu-nu-nu he fucking hates the Skates
To the left, to the right, jump up and down and to the knees
Try to score if you like, past our Bazunu goalie.
 

13 hours ago, Roo1976 said:

But allegedly only 16% of prem players so far have had the jab ,to which i find totally unacceptable.

Maybe they're a little worried about all the footballers collapsing on the pitch with heart issues??

On 14/12/2021 at 00:19, Whitey Grandad said:

True. Sometimes they die.

It’s the period whilst they’re infectious that’s the problem. Surely the basics are obvious? If you’re unvaccinated then you’re much more likely to spread the disease than if you’re vaccinated.

Not true, the viral load between a vaccinated person and a non vaccinated person is identical.

19 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I know loads of people who have got it and passed it on with double vaccination. 

Me too Turkish, my ex brother in-law has caught it even after the booster!! Vaccine passports are not the forward.... Good luck with the queues Saturday as it will be carnage, I wont be going as I don't think I need to declare my vaccine status to Saints or anybody for that matter.

4 hours ago, waylander said:

What does the probity of the current government have to do with advisability of getting vaccinated?  Anyone with the intelligence of a snail can see that it is an overwhelming good idea to get vaccinated.

you have seen all the players collapsing from myocarditis them? Don't think they'd agree with you...

8 hours ago, Noodles34 said:

or just have an alternate view that is not based on this corrupt and  lying government

You can always tell the ones the believe 100% what the government are telling them, d1cks....

6 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

FFS! Absolute insanity.  Having a vaccine significantly reduces the amount of time the body takes to "get rid" of the virus, therefore, obviously reducing the rate at which a vaccinated person can spread it.  This isn't even science, it's having the logic of a fucking 3 year old.

No its doesn't, you really are gullible. You can still catch covid and spread covid just as easily as someone that hasn't vaccinated. Look as Israel who are the most vaccinated country in the world and who are now on their 4th booster shots but still having spiralling infection rates.....

16 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nothing to work out. Your sample of acquaintances is very small and meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Presumably you've just paid for a renewal and are seeking a cancellation before ever going to a game.

 

I've asked the question about will I get a refund if the wont let me go to the games. I'll probably start supporting Brentford as covid doesnt spread though crowds of 20000 or less....

3 minutes ago, TWar said:

Three explanations:

1) You know more vaccinated people than unvaccinated by a significant margin as you don't hang out with many teenagers/anti-vaxx nutjobs. Even if you are 10 times more likely to get it (as the science suggests) without the vaccine, you know more than ten times as many people who have had one jab. Therefore the numbers work out. (this is definitely the case for me)

2) The people who are antivaxx nutters either A) won't be tested when sick or B) wouldn't disclose being sick to others as it is kind of a direct consequence of their stupid life choices therefore there could be people you know who did get it having been antivaxx and just didn't tell you

3) Confirmation bias. You don't take a formal tally when you meet people with COVID so it is all from memory and you are more likely to remember someone getting sick with the vaccine than without as it is more noteworthy.

I'd wager one of those. Could also be just luck owing to your tiny sample size. Either way, this is why we have actual science which categorically proves that the vaccine lowers your risk catching COVID.

Your points are not even worth reading if you class every person as nutjob because they choose not to have the vaccine.

I feel sorry for people like you that think government enforced medication is a good idea.

20 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

The difference being that last year there was no vaccine and we had no choice in the matter.

I know more vaccinated people that have/had covid that unvaccinated, work that out..

I have just asked for a refund on my season ticket of 25 years because I wont be getting the vaccine and I know I'm not the only one.

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Ain’t that the truth. Mind you if he gets torn apart by Kane and co. tonight he probably won’t be going anywhere.

Win win for us, torn apart = stays , outstanding = +10m on price 🙂

So the players were back at Staplewood yesterday but not a word about who or any pictures. Am I missing something?

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McCarthy

Valery; Stephens; Bednarek; Bertrand

Djenepo; JWP; Armstrong; Redmond;

Ings; Adams

Our bench will be interesting. At least Cavani is out.

Barcelona are after Caglar Soyuncu which could be really good news for us and getting rid of Jannik Vestergaard :-)

Pretty worrying if this was true, the boarding organising stuff without consultation from Hasenhuttl.

Southampton’s board were ready to accept Leeds United’s bid for Che Adams this month, before Ralph Hasenhuttl blocked the striker’s departure, according to a report from the Daily Express.

Adams has been linked with a move to Elland Road for much of the January window.

(Photo by Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images)

It was arguably an intriguing pursuit. Despite Adams not scoring for the Saints since his summer move, he has been involved in recent weeks and has helped Hasenhuttl’s men produce a stunning turnaround in form.

The persistence in the rumours linking him with a move to Leeds while he was involved however, hinted that there may be something for the Whites fans to get excited about.

But those hopes appear to have now been dashed.

The Daily Mail reported earlier this week that Adams was keen to stay at St Mary’s after holding talks with Hasenhuttl about his future.

And it now appears that it was not only Adams who had to be talked round by Hasenhuttl.

The Daily Express is reporting that the Southampton board were ready to accept a loan bid from Leeds for Adams.

The move would have included a clause that would see the striker’s switch to Elland Road become permanent for £10 million in the summer.

I see Leganés are doing well. Not won a game yet, lost 6 drawn 2 and sit bottom of the table and Carrillo hasn't scored in 5 appearances!

Anyone got an idea of the best bar in San Antonio Ibiza to watch it? (and Bournemouth)

In yesterday’s game there was an incident of possible offside again Man Utd (around 37 minutes?) where their right winger looked offside but he flag wasn’t raised leading to us conceding a corner. We know that the assistants have been told to keep their flags down if they are not certain in the belief that if a goal follows imminently the VAR can correct it but what if Man Utd had scored from that corner? VAR would not have reviewed the possible offside because it was in a different phase of play.

Exactly the same thing happened in the Liverpool game too when Salah went through on Gunn, Gunn saved and it went for a corner. If they had scored no review would of taken place :-(

In all the training pictures/videos he's looked to of been enjoying himself. If he wanted away he would of been training with Carillo, Lemina, Austin etc. RH doesn't suffer fools gladly.

He just tweeted this:

I want to deny any information regarding a possible transfer this summer, I'm 100% focused on my @Southamptonfc club ready and motivated to make a good season and help the club #comeonsaints

Very refreshing to hear that from a player, personally I'm a big fan and I think he'd fit in well with RH style. Seems very happy in the training pictures (* watch him FOFF to nice now!)

ESPANYOL CONSIDER CARRILLO MOVE

I wonder if the out joint sponsor JD Sports has had any influence on this, I hope so..