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You might think that leaving the EU would be economic suicide, but it is proposed that we keep the trading side of it and dispose of the political and legal implications. So how will that affect the economy? We would naturally also look to trade elsewhere too. Why would it mess up most of our foreign policy? A referendum is promised already, just in the next Parliament. I don't see the problem with bringing it forward to see off UKIP.

Dear EU we would like to keep the parts of our agreements with you that we like in place but get rid of all the bits we don't like. Hope that's okay with you. Yours UKIP.

Can't see the rest of europe having a problem with that at all......................

Just as on another thread here where we wait in anticipation of cockups and in fighting that is sure to happen at a certain football club so I think we can wait in the same way for what is going to happen to ukip now they are, if not in charge of councils on their own, at least have a large say in what is going to happen at them.

What are the inexperienced newly elected ukip councillors going to do once they find that their powers extend only to deciding which public services they have to cut and are nothing to do with the UK's interaction with europe?

So with all these charges who has first dibs? First to register or do they have to sort it out Harry Hill fashion.. "There's only one way to find out...." ?

If having a share gives you a 20 quid discount does that mean they have to pay those with lifetime season tickets 20 quid?

i know of alot of ukip supporters who would love to get rid of the scots:)

That is a point really isn't it as I assume the vast majority of their supporters are english? Should be called EIP?

3 new charges. All in favour of the PFA...

 

Why 3 charges I wonder?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174300/Record-levels-immigration-lead-jam-packed-England-population-rockets-56m.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317624/Changing-face-Britain-By-2050-UK-overtake-United-States-ethnically-diverse-Western-nation.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Anyone trying to win an argument by quoting the daily mail has already lost.

No because:

A) There was not one on the ballot paper

B) My pre-election frontal lobotomy operation was cancelled.

Which is odd, because their own document describes the loan from the property developer as being in the 'short term' and the loan from the council as being in the 'medium to long' term.

 

It's good to see reality setting in and six months being described as the long term future of pompey

I could be wrong. I thought the council loan was till the next set of PP's so I assume that counts as short term?

My reading of that document suggests that they have borrowed £2.65M in total from two sources, both loans to be paid back pretty soon - six months?

 

And the £1,000 fans have NO say over decisions, and the Trust has three members on a board of seven.

Even by pompey maths that leaves four people who could outvote them on everything.

 

Nice to see that man-in-the-street is going to be in control.

I do hope they selected their board carefully.

The council loan is to be repaid within 6 months when the next PP arrives. I believe the time scale on the loan from the property developer may be significantly longer.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/pompey-boss-supports-tower-turning-white-and-blue-1-5036841

Pompey boss supports tower turning white and blue

 

POMPEY boss Guy Whittingham will be at the Spinnaker Tower to support its celebration of the Pompey Supporters Trust taking over the club.

 

 

Today the Pompey manager will be at the tower in Gunwharf Quays at 4pm.

 

 

He is promoting the lighting of the tower which is due to take place on Saturday.

 

 

The Spinnaker Tower will be lit up in blue, red and white to celebrate the community trust finally winning its bid to take over the club last week.

Odd how they miss the red bit out of the main headline. If the light show is just for pompey why is there red in there unless they are just borrowing lights from some other purpose?

Got to love this quote from Mcinnes

 

"I'd like to think we can keep the character of the old stadium but provide it with a lot more modern facilities. This is the largest 20,000-seater stadium in the country and if you reshaped the seats you could add another two or three thousand."

 

So other 20,000 seat stadiums only seat 15,000 then??? They are the 'bestest and biggest'TM

Just a bit of mishearing from the reporter. What he actually said was This is the lardest 20,000-seater stadium in the country

1) Did the pst take up a loan from the council

2) If yes how much was that loan for and when is it repayable

3) If Yes what conditions are attached to this loan and who personally guaranteed the loan?

4) Did the pst take an additional loan?

5) If yes from whom, for how much, what conditions are attached to this loan and what is the schedule for its repayment?

Edited (several times!) to reduce the weaselroom.

I wonder how they would respond to a written list of questions like those Micah Hall submitted to Portpin?

 

Im interested in Chinnys floater, £2m cash above and beyond his fixed charge on the assets which Birch forgot about.

 

Will the pdt validate TCWTBs season ticket for life, along with the other 300 skates?

The chances of any difficult questions being asked or any non-positive information being released? Close to zero.

Anyway....popcorn at the ready for the 10:30 press conference...

 

Can't help but think a sick bucket is going to be more useful...

Kind of agree, but then again, it's the FL's game and they can change their minds and make the rules up as they go along, as they did with us. If the Fish Mongers don't like it or threaten legal action then the FL can threaten to withhold the Golden Share. The FL must know that the Ploppy Support Truss wouldn't play chicken with them on this one and accept any points deduction for next season, just as we did. It looks to me like the FL don't have the balls to do this or the DFCSB's have some kind of hold on them.

As I said the legal situation is a bit murky. I think its fairly clear that the 'owned by the fans now honest' front has helped significantly as the league appear worried about appearing to be nasty to the poor 'owners'.

When we said that it wasn't SFC that was in Administration but SLH, thereby technically getting around the points deduction, didn't the FL tell us to accept the punishment or forego the Golden Share?

 

No reason they couldn't do the same to the Fish Mongers down the road.

The thing is that the league were very (too?) specific about the punishment in this case at an early stage so they have rather restricted themselves with what they can now do. Both ours and their scenarios were outside the rules at the time so the league had to decide what to do. The difference is the FL, it appears, decided on the latter to soon.

Any news of the forensic investigation re the old club?

Blood everywhere??

They are obviously reluctant to correspond about Pompey's situation specifically so I've now tried a different tact with them and 'de-personalised' my query...

 

I've asked them to explain why there are inconsistencies in their 'carry over' policy re: points deductions, highlighting that surely the whole reason for introducing the concept of carrying points over (in other scenarios) is so that clubs don't avoid the punishment simply by being relegated.

 

Will be interesting to see what platitudes they throw at a question fired from a more philosophical angle...

As I said before I very much suspect that they had to stick to their, ill thought out, initial statement about the penalty applying this year. Its is obviously always a bit of a murky area in terms of what legal action clubs can take but if the penalty had been moved to next season its possible that pompey might have a case they could pursue given the unambiguous initial statement. If this happens to another club I very much suspect that the league will say something along the lines of "When club X come out of admin having not met their earlier CVA obligations then the points penalty will be applied using the same rules as that used when a club goes into admin". But rather shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Indeed I would not be surprised if something like the above was not formally agreed so the league can say "Pompey got away with it but don't any other club try the same".

Ian Peach ‏@iepeach

New applications outstrip pledge conversions by about 10-1 in post today. #pompey

So that 11 letters they got today then.

As an aside I see that someone who can't work their own phone apparently can't even read the speedo on their car.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-22263047

Harry Redknapp has denied committing two motoring offences in Dorset.

 

 

The Queens Park Rangers manager, of Panorama Road, Poole, is accused of speeding in The Avenue on 23 October last year.

 

 

He is also accused of failing to supply the driver's identity as required under section 172 of The Road Traffic Act.

Proclaimers song is 500 Miles so maybe we need to replace "walk" by "sue for" and "miles" by "pounds"??

So it'snot true then?

 

The only things that can't be published on a public forum are lies

Is that why no one has posted details on their agreement?

On one level it looks like they are well set for the future but we just don't know how the dynamic between the various parties is going to play out. It could all go swimmingly but there are almost certainly speed bumps ahead that will test how well the PST, the HNW individuals and the property developer all are at pulling in the same direction.

On the subject of the property developer its rumoured that his loan will need to be paid back over the coming few years and I don't think that's covered by the multi-use parachute payments so they will need to definitely have to find the money to pay that.