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You should care about privacy because if the data says you've done something wrong, then the person reading the data will interpret everything else you do through that light. Naked Citizens, a short, free documentary, documents several horrifying cases of police being told by computers that someone might be up to something suspicious, and thereafter interpreting everything they learn about that suspect as evidence of wrongdoing. For example, when a computer programmer named David Mery entered a tube station wearing a jacket in warm weather, an algorithm monitoring the CCTV brought him to the attention of a human operator as someone suspicious. When Mery let a train go by without boarding, the operator decided it was alarming behaviour. The police arrested him, searched him, asked him to explain every scrap of paper in his flat. A doodle consisting of random scribbles was characterised as a map of the tube station. Though he was never convicted of a crime, Mery is still on file as a potential terrorist eight years later, and can't get a visa to travel abroad. Once a computer ascribes suspiciousness to someone, everything else in that person's life becomes sinister and inexplicable.

Does anyone REALLY care that much. I assume the lefties do? Personally, as long as society becomes a safer place for it's citizens then I am happy for it.

 

I reckon the people who have a problem with it have got computers laced with kiddie p0rn.

I find myself in agreement with both buctootim and Verbal on their respective points.

 

We are heading into some very dangerous times. I said earlier that I didn't want to turn this into a conspiracy thread. Still don't. However, Tim's point about the slow crawl to an authoritarian regime is well made.

 

Also, Verbal's point about the EU is bang on. I have zero confidence in the UK as an independent player on the world stage. We have marched in lockstep to American foreign policy, and I believe that's wrong too. The Conservatives love American ideas; much of their policy is inspired by largely failed American programmes, such as welfare-to-work. I still have no idea why a supposedly left-wing government (Labour in the 2000s) would cosy up to the most hawkish US administration since the 1960s. I'm not sure that I ever will.

 

Ideally, I'd like our country to position itself as a wise state. We have enough of our own history to know the score, to be an independent voice, to have the confidence to say "hang on, old bean - are you sure you want to do that?". Furthermore, the peace settlement in Northern Ireland shows that we do have the maturity to deal with terrorists, or freedom fighters, or legitimate politicians as we have now. It wasn't easy. It required some hard choices, and still does now. I'm writing from Northern Ireland right now. My client is having a sports day in the near future. No-one is allowed to wear football shirts, or anything that might indicate some sort of sectarian allegiance. The wags at work have pointed out the irony of having a sports day yet not being able to wear sports shirts, but to me, I totally understand where the firm is coming from.

 

Things have moved on a long way since the Troubles. They've done so because people have genuinely considered contentious issues with sensitivity. It's not perfect; and believe me, a lot of stuff that is reported here isn't necessarily made into a big thing on the news, as it used to be in the 1980s. The dreaded question "what are ye" is still asked all too often. Even so, it's a sh!tload better than where we were.

 

I'm not sure if anyone has ever solved a terrorist problem simply by killing them all, simply because that act in itself creates more of them. We should have used our expertise in delicately handling the NI situation and applied it to the situation in the Middle East.

if those who are happy and want the state to read our emails and web information and listen to phone calls without warrants and rule of law maybe they won,t me mind coming round to look has well you can take my word on trust.

Jun 12 2013

 

Following certain comments which have been printed in the local media over the last week, Hampshire Cricket Chairman Rod Bransgrove would like to issue the following statement pertaining to the Club’s relationships with Southampton Football Club [sFC] and Portsmouth Football Club [PFC]:

 

“Before I begin, it is important to stress that Hampshire Cricket has always, and will always, welcome supporters of all other sports clubs – including those from Southampton FC and Portsmouth FC. It is in the interests of the Club to establish and maintain good working relationships with other local sports businesses in order to explore mutual opportunities.

 

“Historically, we have enjoyed an excellent relationship with SFC and we are keen to pursue and develop this moving forward. Indeed, many of my personal friends are former Saints players and administrators and I, myself, have followed the club since I moved to the area in the 1980s.

 

“My unguarded comments about the circumstances that some of these friends find themselves in were not intended to be a criticism of SFC management. They were intended to explain why I have not visited St Mary’s Stadium so frequently during the past season. I enjoy seeing these friends at football matches and my preference is for sports clubs to embrace their past and maintain strong links with their history and the people who made it.

 

“With regards to Portsmouth FC, Hampshire Cricket has found it difficult, in the past, to establish the same sort of relationship that it has enjoyed with SFC but, after a series of meetings between myself and Iain McInnes [Chairman of PFC], this is now a distinct possibility.

 

“We, therefore, welcomed the news that PFC had emerged from Administration and with an ownership model which provides participation for its supporters. It is important to the well-being of the area, generally, that all of our sporting businesses do well.

 

“In the next few days, Hampshire Cricket will be announcing a partnership with Portsmouth FC that gives their season-ticket holders a discount on a five-match ‘passport’ to see all of the Hampshire Royals’ home Friends Life t20 fixtures this season. It is an offer we have extended to Southampton FC and very much hope they will take us up on.

 

“Furthermore, with both Clubs, we hope this deal will be just the start of a number of exciting initiatives we will jointly explore moving forward.”

“Any inference that I am personally relinquishing my support of SFC for PFC is ludicrous. I wish both clubs well for the forthcoming season and am delighted that the circumstances for both clubs now are very good.

 

“Personally, I grew up in London as a Spurs supporter in the 1960s. My father was an Arsenal supporter – but I never held that against him! Local rivalries are a part of the fun of sport. As is the case with cricket, football is only a game”

Good comments unfortunately we have some small time petty fans who make out its a big deal .

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No problem with bransgrove despite him giving a honest opinion which has upset a small minded section of our fan base.

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I'm struggling to get myself worked up over this. He makes a valid point about the way Le Tiss and Co. have been treated but the comments about the Skates are a bit odd. I mean they're probably the best example this country has ever seen of how not to run a football club.

 

P.s. His daughter is incredibly fit.

Agree its just some muppets getting there knickers in a twist over nothing.

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Because it uses £15.5bn of government money (£3.5bn expenditure and £12bn of loan guarantees) to enable people to saddle themselves with even bigger loans. In doing so the scheme is reversing the trend of gently declining house prices (in real terms after inflation) and driving up the prices which are already too high due to lack of building.Almost any other use of the money you could think of would have had more beneficial effects on the economy - a government backed house building program, tax cuts, investment in infrastructure, public services, paying down debt etc.

 

People in the UK already pay a very high proportion of their income for generally small and poor quality housing. Osbourne could have done something to improve that situation, it was a stroke of genius to find one of the few ways to spend taxpayers money to make things worse.

Agree and its one of the most stupid uses of scarce resources.

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Oh dear what a non story! I spoke to Rod at the end of the Lancashire 40 over win about Saints because he used to occupy the box "Ex Directors" with a number of other high profile individuals. he told me then he had not been for a while and was losing interest in Saints because of the way his friend Benali was treated. He said he was more akin to Portsmouth because that was now a club who would look after their heritage.

 

He is close to Le Tissier and Benali so it is understandable he is upset. At Hampshire we have a good cross section of Southampton and Portsmouth season ticket holders and there is a lot of good humoured banter. Rod would not be making this comment to try to gain anything. I am sure it would have been a comment made after an enquiry about Saints, just as I did.

 

Rod is a Spurs supporter by the way.

Agree just mischief making by a small section of our fans.I think rods done a great job at Hampshire and the rose bowl is a fantastic ground.

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Where has he said he's going to fund the skates? I can't see that in the Echo article.

Its All been blown out of proportion on this thread just gave a honest opinion a lot I agree with and i still want Hampshire to do well.

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Well chaps and chapess, I have good news to report. The club called my brother first thing this morning and said my dad could have a disabled ticket. The power of social Media huh! Good news and fair play to SFC for seeing sense and sorting it quickly.

Great news and glad for your dad

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Yep. Always though him to a be complete sociopath, especially how he reduces everything to odds and percentages.

That's right, because services is all about flipping burgers. Financial Services, Telecoms, Consulting, Media/Publishing, Software, Advertising/Marketing, Retail, Transportation doesn't generate any wealth whatsoever. We could do without the likes of Barclays, HSBC, PWC, Deloitte, Sage, Tesco, Virgin, BA, BT, Vodafone etc etc. They don't really employ anyone, make any profit or export anything at all. I think we should shut them all down.

 

As an observation, it is quite funny how the lefties talk down the economy, it is almost as if they want it to fail, the result of which would be more cuts to the beloved public sector. Funny bunch really.....

UK services sector in fastest growth since March 2012

 

The UK's services sector, which accounts for around 75% of the economy, grew at its fastest rate since March 2012, new data suggests. The Markit/CIPS Services Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) for the UK rose to 54.9 in May from 52.9 in April.

Any reading above 50 indicates growth in the sector, and Markit said the UK economy had "all cylinders now firing".

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22781216

To be fair though, doesn't that mirror all [modern] football fans and to a certain extent, the players and management now as well??

Forget the 80's - it was the mid to late 70's that things were really dodgy. The dockers in the west stand (archers end) represented a distinctly intimidating section. The Milton Road end was mainly full of gobby youths (like me but a bit older), and everyone migrated en-masse to the archers to be by the away fans in the early '80's. I do remember some frequent unpleasantries in Hill Lane after matches. It all seemed perfectly normal at the time, but looking back now it was absolutely ridiculous. Mind you, if I see a programme showing people smoking indoors or on planes now I can't believe we all actually thought it was fine at the time.

1970,s was really violent and the warren pub was one of the main places where the big boys used to hang out and came from real working class backgrounds ,unlike the middle class ponces wannabe hooligans we see today and silly fashion victims wearing crappy designed badged names .

glad its gone to be honest has football was killing it self with fan attendance dropping big time.

Seems that I am in a minority, as I really couldn't give two hoots who provides the clothes for the players.

I don't care either who supplies our clothing either. Its just another name but then again I have never been a fashion victim .

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r.i.p was my favourite player when i was young boy.

there you go, headstrong kiddy who knows better than everyone else. This is why there is so much youth unemployment, a lot of them are just unemployable because they're idiots who do not accept any form of discipline.

Help for Heroes huh, let him try being a soldier or a sailor in the forces and be determined to have his own way, in the glasshouse or the brig on the spot.

I read that an immediately thought non-story and "blown out of all proportions" much like the horror crash story at Wonderland yesterday!!

Agree

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My problem with it is that the legislation will manage to combine being unecessarily intrusive whilst being ineffective. We will give up privacy for no benefit.

 

Even I know that any half clued up terrorists buys untraceable used phones and uses regularly changes SIM cards brought for a couple of pounds from vending machines at airports so the security services never know what phone they are supposed to be tracking. They also don't actually send traceable emails which can be intercepted, they just save them in 'drafts' in hotmail / gmail accounts shared with fellow conspirators who then log in to read.

 

Its far more effective to target the preachers, organisers and followers imo. Do what the security services did to the IRA - so thoroughly infiltrate them with agents nobody could fart or swear without the security services knowing about it.

agree any government who wants all the citizens information is fast heading for a 1984 society,there are enough laws already on the statute book and i can not see any reason why they cannot approach a high court judge to monitor individuals who they suspect of fowl play or deeds and actions.we give up our freedoms at are peril has history has shown.

would you like any person down your road reading your emails and listening in to your phone calls, without the protection of law when you have done nothing wrong,so why allow governments to do it with out no good reason.

Remember him very well as a young kid my grandad would always come round on a Saturday and put the wrestling on.

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My sincere condolences to his family and comrades.

 

Ode to the Fallen Soldier

 

Ode to the Fallen soldier,

For he has made the ultimate sacrifice for his world.

 

Ode to his Mother for while she lives,

the grief and sadness take their toll on her mind,

as she goes throughout her day,

answering questions like “are you ok? ” and “where is your Son, I haven’t seen him for a while? ”

She always answers, “yes I’m fine”

Or, “he’s away.” But she knows, inside,

She can’t deny.

 

Ode to the son he left behind,

For he will grow up without knowing who his father is,

Only what he’s done.

Never will he play catch in the yard,

Like the neighbors next door.

Never will he hear that “Man to Man” talk, that all boys should.

 

Ode to the music that will never be heard, for the only music he made,

rests in his heart.

 

Ode to the art that will never be seen, for the only art he made,

remains in a box underground.

 

Ode to the Fallen Soldier,

who died so we could live,

the way all mankind should,

happy and free.

 

 

David A Harris

lovely words

For someone so quick to leap to play the racist EDL card earlier on this thread you've gone remarkably shy now you've been called out.

Oh dear country bumpkin with another silly statement .better be careful otherwise you might have a strop and call us mongs again on another football forum. keep em coming .

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