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Is the price calculator the amount they give you? It looks to me like it's the spot price.

We? Are you saying you work for one of those dreadful companies that have appeared on the highstreet?

It was worth 711.478 GBP so in fairness you got a fair deal.

What carat, what weight?

"the money shop" Another mug falls for these con artists.

So long as concerted effort is made to clamp down on top end tax fiddlers then no-body can complain about benefits slobs being tackled. What is needed in respect of former is the loopholes closing (not at all difficult as the loopholes are only there because they have been deliberately put there!) and some people made an example of if they then break the law. Give tax fiddlers a choice - like it or lump it. If they don't want to live here they have a choice and despite the rhetoric very few would actually up sticks.

You relpied it was a freebie AFTER my post.

He won't be thinking how lucky he is when he's got to pay the money back.

Personally i'd be far more ashamed to live on benefits. My dad worked on the farms in the 50's and then spent 30 years in a factory, and my old dear was a housewife but did ironing and cleaning for people - i've been brought up with the ethic that you work. But then you get these slob families that know all the fiddles and they bring their kids up to be slobs who carry on the family trade of milking the system. This cycle must be broken, and the only way you're going to break it is to get a f/ck off stick to them (proverbially of course...). I'd do any menial work if I had to. It'd be embarrassing, but i'd still do it, and I have done it.

Not by me.

I believe that the "liberalisation" of schooling (and society in general) is a big factor here. Kids go through school and are encouraged to think of themselves being equal to their elders. They have no fear and thus no respect. And then bang - they go from this fluffy wrapped in cotton wool world and end up in the real world. This is where good management comes into play. They need to be completely reconditioned. I wouldn't dream of complaining about British workers to my MD, because a) it would be a failure on my part to do so; and b) my MD would rightly see this as excuse making for my failure. You have completely the wrong attitude towards British workers. Instead of complaining about them, do something about those you can influence. I see it as a challenge and a thoroughly rewarding one at that. By getting a British worker to work "like a Pole"you end up with a better worker. FACT. For the simple reason you have a good worker that speaks fluent English and in the long run that makes YOUR life a lot easier.

You have been treated appallingly.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/6182

Wouldn't it be wonderful to do something green and environmentally beneficial. My vision is for modern day treadmills (maybe exercise bikes...) that produce electricity. Every inmate should be medically assessed and given a target - if they don't pedal fast enough and long enough they lose privilidges. This would be doubly beneficial as many benefits slobs are fat and they would lose weight thus making them better prepared to re-enter society.

Are we in agreement when it comes to work houses? Forget the victorian image, these would be bright and cheerful set-ups whereby slobs are housed and fed (with a tiny allowance) and they forced to work otherwise privilidges are removed.

As much as I support measures to make the workshy slobs work, I just can't see how this can possibly work. Let's say the DSS tell these single mums to move back home, and then their parents say they don't want them. What happens then? Benefits slobs may well be lazy scum, but these slob families know all the fiddles - it's what they do, and they'll soon cotton on that all they've got to do is make their slob children homeless and the government will provide. my answer would be a re-introduction of work houses. Now that would be a game changer and you'd suddenly see slob families change their ways.

One problem is that British workers are at an immediate disadvantage to foreigners because many foreigners shack up in student digs type houses with minimal expense and as such can afford to work for a pittance. The biggest casualty of Labours open door policy has been the working classes, and please tell me how that benefits society?

In respect of the first point that's the fault of system - not the British worker. In respect of the second point I refer you back to my previous point. Your employees are a reflection of you. If you can't manage them properly it's you that isn't up to it, not them.

Living in Liverpool this comes as no surprise.

I provide a pleasurable experience.

My philosophy is that the people I manage are a reflection of me. If employers were worth their salt they'd get English people to work - they are better workers than foreigners if managed properly because you can make yourself understood to them much easier. Of course there are those who don't want work because it pays not to work and that needs to change.

Of course it has. it's also suppressed wages and put millions of British workers on the dole.

That is a part of the problem, which has arisen due to us being flooded with immigrants, but the market is artificially inflated because landlords price fix in the knowledge that councils have to cough up.

On the contrary, rent controls would see less people homeless and less people requiring benefits.

If it was down to me i'd re-introduce rent controls. Problem solved.