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And if the delinquents can't find some rival yobs, but see some innocent rival fans, they'll attack them. That is why it was sensible to allow the Pompey fans out at the same time as us.

I wasn't bothered what they did because I was on the supporters coach.

How you've got the gaul to preach given your attitude towards the disabled is very rich.

I was talking to a policeman today who helps to police games at the Walkers Stadium and told him of the sentences and the rough details of what happened and like me he welcomed them. Like me he firmly believes that custodials such as these will serve as a detterent.

I get the feeling that Turkish is just crying because the sentences have put a nail in the coffin of the feral yobs that attach themselves to football clubs. If there is less trouble at future derbies because the yobs fear imprisonment then good.

Merrington was the boss at my first derby, and i've not missed one since, but of course I could say anything on here.

Not missed a Derby in years. Carry on.

Yep.

Well said. I bet that the yobs will think twice before causing trouble at future derby games.

lol.

You only have to look at the basket cases that buy the Guardian to know what a pathetic paper it is. I will be sticking with the Express because they say it how it is.

During the 50's and 60's there was no segregation. The police and the government need to look back to then to solve the yob problem. National Service is the answer imo.

I noticed a while back that Monarch (or it may have been easy jet) run regular flights to gib at cheap prices. I will look into a short break there next spring I think. Probably won't be staying at The Rock Hotel though!

No Stu, i'm not talking rubbish. The incident with the grown "men" picking on a middle aged woman only serves to illustrate the people the police are dealing with and you could extraoplate that single incident to multiple incidents had the yobs been given the opportunity to "get at" more pompey fans. If these lowlifes were prepared to vent their irrational anger on a middle aged woman one can only assume they would have taken it one step further against a man. Ask yourself this: Should the priority of the police be to protect the feral louts from themselves or to protect the inocent public from the feral louts? Any rational person would support the latter and therefore the police did the right thing in allowing the Pompey fans out at the same time so they had a chance of blending in with the dispersing crowd. Thankyou for bringing this incident to mt attention as it only serves to illustrate the point I was making.

I was going to ask the same question.

A fair few people have been attacked by the Barbary Apes.

The police have nothing to be held accountable for. They did their job and they did it well. The fact that the innocent Pompey fans were able to blend in with the crowds and safely get to their cars without sticking out like sore thumbs is a credit to the operation.

You're the one that is looking for angles to shift the blame away from the thugs. Morally it was the right course of action - why should the thugs dictate when fans leave a stadium? In the safety of the public it was the right course of action - why should normal pompey fans be exposed to feral thugs by being forced to walk through St marys when the bulk of the crowd had dispersed? Your whole stance on this is in favour of the criminals and I applaud Hampshire Constabulary for putting the general public first.

Letting the Pompey fans out at the same time was the right thing to do. Why should innocent Pompey fans be made to walk through St Marys to their cars stood out like sore thumbs because the bulk of the crowd had dispersed?

Just Saints, but I hope that my correspondances with Watchdog/my member of parliament will have wider implications. Booking taxes are wrong. I can accept paying for P+P, but £3 is excessive imo for this.

I would expect that tickets will be dispatched by special delivery from now on, but I bet they won't be. Therefore in essence we will be paying a booking tax for a service no better than ever before. If I have to go out of my way and pick up duplicates in future do you think the booking tax should be refunded given that the service I have payed for has not been delivered?

I was under the impression that Mr Liebherr believed in business ethics and the booking tax is not ethical in my opinion. It goes against what is the right and decent way of selling tickets imo. We've never had a booking tax before and when I have had to pay a booking tax it has always infuriated me. I'm not going to change my view on this issue ever out of principle.

Given that i'd payed a booking tax I think it is reasonable to expect that that levy delivers a premium service. I will be forced to pay the booking tax next year and as soon as tickets fail to arrive and i'm forced to pick up duplicates at away grounds I will argue for a refund of the tax. Failing that I will launch a test case at the small claims court.

I refer you back to the previous comment. Seriously 99.99% of fans go to the football for a laugh and visiting different towns and cities and enjoying meeting people from them is what it should be all about. In the 50's and 60's Saints fans used to watch Pompey and vice versa. That is what it's all about. All these yobs that have attached themselves to clubs are not how it was and they are not how it should be. It's time to move on and grow up.

I'm always right. As Winston Churchill once said just because you're in a minority doesn't mean you're wrong.