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  1. Why do right wingers assume that socialists have to be poor?

     

    It's about giving everyone the opportunity to be successful regardless of backgrounds and supporting those who really need it. I know many One Nation tories would say the same.

     

    The 3 main political parties are in it for themselves, not for us. The tories are slaves to big business and their donations, Labour to the unions and the libdems will say anything to anyone.

     

    More and more young people don't vote, they are disenfranchised and alienated from a political process that doesn't care about them and that suits the ruling classes perfectly.

     

    They don't have to be 'poor', just not stinking rich. But if someone goes on about 'redistributing' more wealth, why don't they just do it themselves if that's what they believe in?

     

    Amusing that he thinks profit is a filthy word but then again he doesn't live in the real world does he.

  2. So Brand jets around the world, drives Range Rovers and Mercedes, has a net worth of 15 million and owns multi million pound properties yet he thinks he can lecture about more wealth distribution, profit and destroying the planet ? You couldn't make it up.

  3. Gutted for the people who booked trains/flights/hotels.

     

    The club could get themselves some good publicity by helping these people out (I mean we ain't talking 1000's of people/pounds here). Prove you've forked out non-refundable stuff and even if the club just dished out some signed shirts, free tickets etc that would be better than 'it ain't our fault'.

     

    It would be a tiny fraction of the 200k to help out a few (most of which who have consistently been on long trips like this to support the club ) who have been completely shafted, sad reflection on football that I doubt anyone high up has even given a thought to it.

  4. I expect he made his money from the gullible idiot's who followed him and realised all that marching was a waste of time except for the stupid thugs who liked a good punch up and the racists who hate everyone of colour to use fear tactics.....not sure of his reason , has he used to be in the BNP then edl and maybe Ukip his next move. Will upset one poster on here who seemed more worried about the anti racist groups.

     

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

     

    To become just a member of UKIP you have to declare you haven't been part of the EDL or BNP- so he wouldn't even be able to be a member let alone play any active role.

     

    He's really not far right, the real far right old National Front types in fact hate him for being a 'Zionist'.

  5. I saw the BBC interview Farage on the morning of the day this happened. It was clear that the BBC had it in for UKIP, asking some truly foolish questions. Then the way they reported this jokey remark, that caused no offence to anyone in the room, was disgraceful.

     

    The BBC have always had it in for UKIP. They used to do all they could to ignore them completely and give no coverage, then when they got too big they chose the other route of ridiculing them at every moment possible.

  6. If anyone was actually really offended by what he said then take a long hard look at yourself. Shame Bloom lost his cool when he was being harassed by the journalists and he couldn't see that rising to the bait gave them exactly what they were after. The way the BBC reported it was ridiculous, 'Bloom calls women sluts', so out of context. Scrap the license fee!

  7. Really is a joke. It means the only young kids who can go regularly these days are ones who's parents can afford to pay for them/take them. A football club should be open to young working class kids in the city.

     

    Cost of tickets is so out of proportion to anything else. £42 quid for Liverpool, you could go to a posh restaurant and have a three course meal and some drinks for that.

     

    And when you compare it to lower wages it's ridiculous. I'm earning £6.50 an hour at the moment- so a Liverpool ticket would cost me not shy of 6 and a half hours hard graft- for 90 minutes of standing on some concrete watching football.

  8. Much preferred the days of League 1 and the Champ in terms of away games.

     

    Great when you could turn up on the day and pay £10/£20 quid to get in, stand wherever you want and with who you want.

    Surely somethings got to give, take Liverpool at £42. Train was £40+ add on another £20/£30 for food/beer and general costs and you're looking at well over £100.

    Add too that the fact that pretty much every ground in the PL seems to have a dire atmosphere. Shower of sh*te.

  9. I don't understand Justice for the 96 on this, I thought the whole 'Hillsborough was because of standing' was all part of the cover up they've campaigned so hard against?

     

    Without trying to cause an argument about Hillsborough, to me the bottom line was fencing?

  10. It was probably Peterborough away last season. Got a lift up and back with someone i hadn't met before on this forum, but kindly offered me a lift.

     

    On the way back near Guildford coming off the motorway either the back wheel hit the curb, or we skidded on something, but anyway we skidded out of control, spun round a few times and smashed into the side of a motorway bridge, car was a write off. All pretty shaken up we were taken to a taxi place in Guildford. Had no other option but to get a taxi back for the rest of the journey. As we started the journey the taxi driver in hindsight was clearly tired as f*ck, opening the window, driving badly etc, but as we were all a bit shaken up we thought it was just us being paranoid. Down a straight road he fell asleep, swerved into a bollard/crossing thing in the middle of the road at some speed. We got out the car didn't want to go any further with him, he was a complete nut job, making up some story he was swerving a fox. Stranded in the middle of nowhere got a lift down further south to my moped. Then had to ped it an hour home in the rain. Got home 5-6 in the morning aching like f*ck, and straight up for college an hour or 2 later...the things we do!

  11. That's no reason to embrace a dangerous alternative

     

     

     

    I agree on the first point but if there's one thing they didn't do, it was appeal to the left. Where have you got that from?

     

     

    Gay marriage for one. It's not something I lost sleep over but a lot of older traditional Tories I know felt very let down by how and the manner in which they pushed it through.

     

    Farage is far from perfect as a person, but I think people like the fact he's actually had a job in the real world, ran his own business etc. Clegg, Milliband, Osborne etc on the other hand..

  12. I would have if i had the chance, weren't standing where I am. But great to see 10 gains in Hampshire, UKIP's best area after Lincolnshire.

     

    I don't agree with every UKIP policy, but we should be able to determine wether we are to become part of a federal European superstate where an unelected commision decides our country's policy, or wether we want to be a free and independant nation.

     

    UKIP on immigration is also common sense, we're an overcrowded island with few jobs and a million young out of work- therefore we should have a policy such as the US, Canada, Auss,Nz etc..only UKIP stands for this and has done for years. The party also stands for smaller governement.

     

    Fact is the Tories have taken their core vote for guaranteed whilst trying to appeal to the liberal left- and it's come back to bite them in the arse.

    they tried to smear..as did Labour, but it didn't work! Brilliant.

  13. I did Melbourne and Sydney in 06/07 Ashes. Despite having already lost the ashes by the time I got out there it was a quality trip. Melbourne and Sydney both brilliant cities. Stayed in Hostels, book up as early as possible (esp Sydney for NYE). Tickets I found easy enough to get off touts for face value, esp at the MCG (even on boxing day). Sydney was tough on the last day and had to go in the home end, this isn't a problem though.

     

    Be prepared to see how 50 years of terrace evolution makes the Barmy Army completely outwit the Aussies (or "Boony army" as they were back then), basically their songs consisted of "foour nilll, foour nilll" at the MCG and "fiiiive nillll, fiiiive nillll" at the SCG.

     

    Some great characters that travel out there, loads of football lads although some of the Barmy Army "full timers" annoyed me with their self entitlement, god knows what "Jimmy" will be calling himself now - could be a lynching if he starts the old cigar chomping "now then now what we need is a Barmy Army wicket, Can Jim Fit It?"!

     

    Watch out for the weak lagars in the grounds, jeez, the exchange rate is pretty scary, back when we went we were waving $ notes at the Aussies singing "we've got 3 dollars, to the pound". Won't be much of that this year!

     

    Enjoy, I'm still planning on doing a full tour, Perth Brisbane and Adelaide have to be visited whilst I'm still young enough...

     

    Oh, don't forget to take a St Georges flag with SOUTHAMPTON FC on it. Up the Saints!

     

    Yeah some odd types amoungst the full timers, but sounds a good crack!

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