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A win and a clean sheet, and a bit of luck perhaps (for once this season). Will take that (obviously). Lets see if we can get a win out of Wolves somehow - would be absolutely massive.

You know what they say about teams that "win ugly"... thats the sign of champions!!

4 hours ago, Saint_Jonny said:

I've seen Saints lose, in person, at Rochdale, Carlisle and Tranmere. I've seen us lose 9-0. I've seen us relegated to league one with a whimper. 

Yeah we're pretty shit at Premier League level at the moment, but we've been in most of the games and should have taken more points. To say this is "the worst we've ever been" is sensationalist bullshit. 

100% this.

If its rumoured to cost us £12M to sack him, we think we're down anyway, and we don't really fancy any of the available replacements... I can see why he's still in the job. What a ringing endorsement of Martin 😄

2 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

Wednesday at home would be nice if they can win on pens. 

The reckoning for Ralph and Rohl football vs sports republic football? 

2 minutes ago, Winnersaint said:

Question is this. Russell Martin or Keir Starmer who’s doing the better job?

Now that is a tough one 😂🤣

Can only echo what others have said. That was a poor team performance and will certainly have damaged the confidence of our defensive players. Very poor in an attacking sense as well. A lucky shot, a soft pen, and a free header being our only real threatening chances. Stoke's reserves probably made the better attacking chances tbh. 

1 minute ago, Saint NL said:

8 mins to fuck this up 

8min more of this absolute comedy show 🤷😜

8min. What?! 😂🤣

Reality is that a load of people will be cheesed off Martin's blushes have just been saved.

Great shot though, pleased for bree! 

Just now, danjosaint said:

 

This is worse than anything I can remember 

The 3-4 to Leeds, or similarly the tranmere Cup exit? They were really bad ☹️

This is getting embarrassing. We're comfortably being outplayed by stoke atm. They're keeping us at arms reach and loon far more threatening... Stoke's resveres... 

Onuachu furiously telling them how to cross 😂🤣

An out of favour squad player is one of the "leaders" on the pitch for us. Joke really. 

Lesley trying to give stoke a 3rd there... 

Tall Paul's first goal incoming tonight 😎

Has tall Paul had a fling with Martin's missus? Have to wonder what he's done to not even get a start in this game. 

It's so obvious we need that physical presence in the box. 

If we lose this, do we think he might actually get sacked? 

Need to cancel the lesley and cornet loans if we can. Both of them are just using up a squad and loan spot with no real benefit to the team. 

Big lesley at fault for both goals here, not having much luck is he for a young lad 😂🤣

Big les and cornet both look like awful options. Can we cancel both those deals and roll the dice again? 

What one earth sugawara thought he was doing for their goal I have no idea. Had a bit of a mare there. 

46 minutes ago, ant said:

Just realised this comes exactly a decade after we faced them in the same round of the League Cup at their place.

Pelle's no-look top-bins goal from 25 yards... Long's first Saints goal... Crouch going mental and getting sent off. What a night.

Bloody miss Koeman's squad.

 

Just looking at that subs bench in the opening seconds... its depressing how far we've fallen since then. Massive shout out to Reed, Gao, and now SR. Absolutely criminal decline.

6 hours ago, derry said:

I watched Leicester v Notts Forest. Martin has been giving it large about his process etc but for me he's just a busted flush making noise. I wanted to see what Forest would do that we failed to do. True to form kept Wood up on the centre backs, so much so he scored from a big punt from the goalkeeper that bouncing caused Faes under pressure to try and head back to the keeper in No man's land and Wood nodded over him for the third goal. Neither side tried intricate passing but varied their passing as the opportunities appeared. Forest unlike us pressed hard and in numbers. Significantly Fatawu started and Forest pressed him tightly except for the odd time and he was unable to get in behind as he did to us last Saturday. Finally at corners Forest had players covering the edge of the penalty area so Winks had to knock the ball into the goal area.

The reason we have goals is to decide the match, not a countback of meaningless passing fifty yards away from goal. All the teams in the Premier League except us seem to get this. High tempo, team pressing, varied passing and tight marking all do it in slightly different ways. The multipassing league champions press hard when losing the ball, transition at lightning pace and rapidly rotate the ball to look for openings around the opponents packed penalty area. However they have spent mega millions on the very best to suit Pep. With a bit of luck we'll get a demonstration of the difference that will show up our poundland version for what it is. Looking ahead I'm guessing something like 75% City possession and us penned in for long periods desperately trying to keep them out. If it's us with 75% and pulling City around I surrender.

I think Martin is deluded and unable to admit his method is only suited to better players playing in an inferior league but a dead loss with average players in a top league. We have to give that up now before it's too late and change to a high tempo press and break style or get rid of him.

In all seriousness, Forest are 5th in the league with a much better squad than us 😅. Its hardly a fair comparison is it. Reality is that we should have beaten Leicester, and certainly should have been 3-1 up and out of sight without the appalling officiating. You're hardly making a strong case here.

Good performance today tbh. People aren't being realistic if they expected anything else from this one. Kept it tight, had a few chances to get something, hit the bar etc. Onto the next one.

They're playing smarter in recent weeks but just aren't getting any luck. Ipswich, Leicester, Arsenal/city away have all been decent performances. Can see us getting at least 4 out of wolves and Everton.

1 hour ago, Green said:

In January 2023 we beat them in the league cup, unbelievable to think we managed that, look at the teams: https://www.11v11.com/matches/southampton-v-manchester-city-11-january-2023-378129/ only KWP and Adam Armstrong (starting) and Aribo (bench) are the only players from that squad that are available to play tomorrow.

Our last PL point against them came in January 2022 in a 1-1 draw https://www.11v11.com/matches/southampton-v-manchester-city-22-january-2022-373450/ only KWP and Bednarek remain from the starting line up and Stephens and Armstrong from the bench. I remember thinking we were good value for the point that day. We seem to have fallen a long way from that in a relatively short period of time.

 

We should have won at the etihad. Should have been a penalty and 10men.

7 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Apparently interested in a loan move for Bamford in January.

But we have Tall Paul?!!? Martin really does have favourites and then players he wants rid of.

Who was it who said he was definitely going to get sacked on the day of the charity game?