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    Summer 2018 Transfer/HCDAJFU Thread

    in The Saints

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    But....I love the fickleness of it all. A couple of years ago we were the best run club in the world, a model to emulate, etc etc etc and now we are a shambles. A week is a long time in politics, and I guess it is in football as well.

     

    You might have missed this? https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?48561-Cortese-has-left-Southampton-Football-Club-Officially-Confirmed#.W1Wy6KTTWaM

     

    #momentumcurve #decline #poormanagement

    Sam Gallagher - Joins Blackburn: Official

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    Not intentionally responding to your cast here Galsgow but Im not sure we all over rate our own, many of us see it as it is. After the disastrous waste of money of both Carillo and Boufal I think its worth looking at Gallagher, Sims, Hesketh, Valery before jumping into bed with another expensive risk

     

    Theres nothing wrong with that, of course a lot can be taken from the training ground but some players need to be thrown into the deep end to see if they are the type to thrive

     

    Gallagher - Looks the target man type we have needed since Pelle, obviously lacks the pedigree, his last PL outing was years ago and wasnt terrible, he just wasn’t ready

     

    Sims - potentially the most overrated of those mentioned, is quick but lacks an efficient final ball or intelligence, likely deserving of some games off the bench

     

    Hesketh - One of our brightest talents, maybe too lightweight but the game has some lightweight talents

     

    Targett - Never let us down when he has played and looked good at a rampant Fulham side, obviously not on RBs level, however makes a more than adequate backup

     

    Valery - Honourably mentioned as a talent in our youth sides, similar to Targett will be unlikely to oust Cedric, however should prove to be a more than capable understudy

     

    Decent summary.

     

    I'm all for giving 'younger' players chances, but for me Sam had his chance on loan(s). He didn't excel at all in the lower league and he's 23 soon

     

    Would be frustrating to start the season with Austin, Sam, Long and Gabbi. Toothless would sum it up, we'd be asking for more trouble

     

    Put it another way, how would we feel if we'd signed Sam this summer from Birmingham? Underwhelming

    Summer 2018 Transfer/HCDAJFU Thread

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    Some good and bad players in this list -

     

     

    Argentina

    Sergio Agüero – Manchester City – 2011–18

    Ricky Álvarez – Sunderland – 2014–15

    Marcos Angeleri – Sunderland – 2010–11

    Julio Arca – Sunderland, Middlesbrough – 2000–03, 2005–09

    Christian Bassedas – Newcastle United – 2000–02

    Luciano Becchio – Norwich City – 2012–14

    Federico Bessone – Swansea City – 2011–12

    Sebastián Blanco – West Bromwich Albion – 2014–15

    Mauro Boselli – Wigan Athletic – 2010–11, 2012–13

    Fabián Caballero – Arsenal – 1998–99

    Willy Caballero – Manchester City, Chelsea – 2014–18

    Jonathan Calleri – West Ham United – 2016–17

    Esteban Cambiasso – Leicester City – 2014–15

    Horacio Carbonari – Derby County – 1998–2002

    Guido Carrillo – Southampton – 2017–18

    Juan Cobián – Sheffield Wednesday – 1998–99

    Fabricio Coloccini – Newcastle United – 2008–09, 2010–16

    Daniel Cordone – Newcastle United – 2000–01

    Hernán Crespo – Chelsea – 2003–04, 2005–06

    Andrés D'Alessandro – Portsmouth – 2005–06

    Martín Demichelis – Manchester City – 2013–16

    Ángel Di María – Manchester United – 2014–15

    Franco Di Santo – Chelsea, Blackburn Rovers, Wigan Athletic – 2008–13

    Alejandro Faurlín – Queens Park Rangers – 2011–13, 2014–15

    Federico Fazio – Tottenham Hotspur – 2014–15

    Federico Fernández – Swansea City – 2014–18

    Luciano Figueroa – Birmingham City – 2003–04

    Mauro Formica – Blackburn Rovers – 2011–12

    Esteban Fuertes – Derby County – 1999–2000

    Ramiro Funes Mori – Everton – 2015–18

    Paulo Gazzaniga – Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur – 2012–16, 2017–18

    Jonás Gutiérrez – Newcastle United, Norwich City – 2008–09, 2010–15

    Gabriel Heinze – Manchester United – 2004–07

    Martín Herrera – Fulham – 2002–03

    Emiliano Insúa – Liverpool – 2006–10

    Érik Lamela – Tottenham Hotspur – 2013–18

    Manuel Lanzini – West Ham United – 2015–18

    Carlos Marinelli – Middlesbrough – 1999–2004

    Emiliano Martínez – Arsenal – 2014–15, 2016–17

    Javier Mascherano – West Ham United, Liverpool – 2006–11

    Juan Carlos Menseguez – West Bromwich Albion – 2008–09

    Nicolás Otamendi – Manchester City – 2015–18

    Mauricio Pellegrino – Liverpool – 2004–05

    Sixto Peralta – Ipswich Town – 2001–02

    Roberto Pereyra – Watford – 2016–18

    Maxi Rodríguez – Liverpool – 2009–12

    Marcos Rojo – Manchester United – 2014–18

    Sergio Romero – Manchester United – 2015–18

    Facundo Sava – Fulham – 2002–04

    Lionel Scaloni – West Ham United – 2005–06

    Ignacio Scocco – Sunderland – 2013–14

    Julián Speroni – Crystal Palace – 2004–05, 2013–16, 2017–18

    Denis Stracqualursi – Everton – 2011–12

    Mauricio Taricco – Tottenham Hotspur – 1998–2004

    Carlos Tevez – West Ham United, Manchester United, Manchester City – 2006–13

    Leonardo Ulloa – Leicester City, Brighton & Hove Albion – 2014–18

    Santiago Vergini – Sunderland – 2013–15

    Juan Sebastián Verón – Manchester United, Chelsea – 2001–04

    Emanuel Villa – Derby County – 2007–08

    Nelson Vivas – Arsenal – 1998–2001

    Claudio Yacob – West Bromwich Albion – 2012–18

    Pablo Zabaleta – Manchester City, West Ham United – 2008–18

    Mauro Zárate – Birmingham City, West Ham United, Queens Park Rangers, Watford – 2007–08, 2014–17

    Luciano Zavagno – Derby County – 2001–02

     

    Bolivia

    Jaime Moreno – Middlesbrough – 1995–96

    Marcelo Moreno – Wigan Athletic – 2009–10

     

    Brazil

    Alex – Chelsea – 2007–12

    Afonso Alves – Middlesbrough – 2007–09

    Anderson – Manchester United – 2007–15

    Anderson Silva – Everton – 2006–07

    Fábio Aurélio – Liverpool – 2006–11

    Júlio Baptista – Arsenal – 2006–07

    Juliano Belletti – Chelsea – 2007–10

    Branco – Middlesbrough – 1995–97

    Caçapa – Newcastle United – 2007–09

    Philippe Coutinho – Liverpool – 2012–18

    Danilo – Manchester City – 2017–18

    David Luiz – Chelsea – 2011–14, 2016–18

    Denílson – Arsenal – 2006–11

    Guly do Prado – Southampton – 2012–14

    Doni – Liverpool – 2011–12

    Doriva – Middlesbrough – 2002–06

    Ederson – Manchester City – 2017–18

    Edu – Arsenal – 2000–05

    Elano – Manchester City – 2007–09

    Emerson – Middlesbrough – 1996–97

    Evandro – Hull City – 2016–17

    Fábio – Manchester United, Queens Park Rangers, Cardiff City, Middlesbrough – 2009–14, 2016–17

    Fernando – Manchester City – 2014–17

    Fernandinho – Manchester City – 2013–18

    Filipe Luís – Chelsea – 2014–15

    Roberto Firmino – Liverpool – 2015–18

    Fumaça – Newcastle United – 1999–2000

    Gabriel Jesus – Manchester City – 2016–18

    Gabriel Paulista – Arsenal – 2014–17

    Geovanni – Manchester City, Hull City – 2007–10

    Gilberto – Tottenham Hotspur – 2007–09

    Gilberto Silva – Arsenal – 2002–08

    Gláuber – Manchester City – 2008–09

    Heurelho Gomes – Tottenham Hotspur, Watford – 2008–11, 2015–18

    Ilan – West Ham United – 2009–10

    Isaías – Coventry City – 1995–97

    Mário Jardel – Bolton Wanderers – 2003–04

    Jô – Manchester City, Everton – 2008–11

    Júlio César – Bolton Wanderers – 2004–05

    Júlio César – Queens Park Rangers – 2012–13

    Juninho – Middlesbrough – 1995–97, 1999–2000, 2002–04

    Kenedy – Chelsea, Watford, Newcastle United – 2015–18

    Kléberson – Manchester United – 2003–05

    Lucas Leiva – Liverpool – 2007–17

    Lucas Moura – Tottenham Hotspur – 2017–18

    Maicon – Manchester City – 2012–13

    Mineiro – Chelsea – 2008–09

    Nenê – West Ham United – 2014–15

    Oscar – Chelsea – 2012–17

    Alexandre Pato – Chelsea – 2015–16

    Paulinho – Tottenham Hotspur – 2013–15

    Andreas Pereira – Manchester United – 2014–16

    Bruno Perone – Queens Park Rangers – 2011–12

    Lucas Piazon – Chelsea – 2012–13

    Rafael – Manchester United – 2008–15

    Ramires – Chelsea – 2010–16

    Richarlison – Watford – 2017–18

    Douglas Rinaldi – Watford – 2006–07

    Robinho – Manchester City – 2008–10

    Fábio Rochemback – Middlesbrough – 2005–08

    Rodrigo – Everton – 2002–03

    Roque Júnior – Leeds United – 2003–04

    Sandro – Tottenham Hotspur, Queens Park Rangers, West Bromwich Albion – 2010–16

    André Santos – Arsenal – 2011–12

    Rafael Schmitz – Birmingham City – 2007–08

    Sylvinho – Arsenal, Manchester City – 1999–2001, 2009–10

    Emerson Thome – Sheffield Wednesday, Chelsea, Sunderland, Bolton Wanderers – 1997–2004

    Willian – Chelsea – 2013–18

     

    Chile

    Clarence Acuña – Newcastle United – 2000–03

    Jean Beausejour – Birmingham City, Wigan Athletic – 2010–13

    Claudio Bravo – Manchester City – 2016–18

    Mark González – Liverpool – 2006–07

    Ángelo Henríquez – Wigan Athletic – 2012–13

    Mauricio Isla – Queens Park Rangers – 2014–15

    Gonzalo Jara – West Bromwich Albion – 2010–12

    Luis Jiménez – West Ham United – 2009–10

    Javier Margas – West Ham United – 1998–2001

    Gary Medel – Cardiff City – 2013–14

    David Pizarro – Manchester City – 2011–12

    Alexis Sánchez – Arsenal, Manchester United – 2014–18

    Eduardo Vargas – Queens Park Rangers – 2014–15

    Carlos Villanueva – Blackburn Rovers – 2008–09

     

    Colombia

    Juan Pablo Ángel – Aston Villa – 2000–07

    Pablo Armero – West Ham United – 2013–14

    Faustino Asprilla – Newcastle United – 1995–98

    Bernardo – Middlesbrough – 2016–17

    Juan Cuadrado – Chelsea – 2014–16

    Radamel Falcao – Manchester United, Chelsea – 2014–16

    Víctor Ibarbo – Watford – 2015–16

    José Izquierdo – Brighton & Hove Albion – 2017–18

    David Ospina – Arsenal – 2014–18

    Hámilton Ricard – Middlesbrough – 1998–2002

    Hugo Rodallega – Wigan Athletic, Fulham – 2008–14

    Carlos Sánchez – Aston Villa – 2014–16

    Davinson Sánchez – Tottenham Hotspur – 2017–18

    Jhon Viáfara – Portsmouth – 2005–06

    Juan Camilo Zúñiga – Watford – 2016–17

     

    Ecuador

    Christian Benítez – Birmingham City – 2009–10

    Felipe Caicedo – Manchester City – 2007–09

    Segundo Castillo – Everton, Wolverhampton Wanderers – 2008–10

    Ulises de la Cruz – Aston Villa, Reading – 2002–08

    Agustín Delgado – Southampton – 2001–04

    Fernando Guerrero – Burnley – 2009–10

    Iván Kaviedes – Crystal Palace – 2004–05

    Jefferson Montero – Swansea City – 2014–17

    Juan Carlos Paredes – Watford – 2015–16

    Antonio Valencia – Wigan Athletic, Manchester United – 2006–18

    Enner Valencia – West Ham United, Everton – 2014–17

     

    Guyana

    Matthew Briggs – Fulham – 2006–07, 2010–14

    Carl Cort – Wimbledon, Newcastle United, Wolverhampton Wanderers – 1996–2004

    Leon Cort – Stoke City, Burnley – 2008–10

    Neil Danns – Blackburn Rovers, Birmingham City – 2002–04, 2007–08

     

    Paraguay

    Antolín Alcaraz – Wigan Athletic, Everton – 2010–15

    Paulo da Silva – Sunderland – 2009–11

    Diego Gavilán – Newcastle United – 1999–2001

    Juan Iturbe – Bournemouth – 2015–16

    Cristian Riveros – Sunderland – 2010–11

    Roque Santa Cruz – Blackburn Rovers, Manchester City – 2007–11

     

    Peru

    André Carrillo – Watford – 2017–18

    Diego Penny – Burnley – 2009–10

    Claudio Pizarro – Chelsea – 2007–08

    Nolberto Solano – Newcastle United, Aston Villa, West Ham United – 1998–2008

    Ysrael Zúñiga – Coventry City – 1999–2001

     

    Uruguay

    Miguel Britos – Watford – 2015–18

    Martín Cáceres – Southampton – 2016–17

    Sebastián Coates – Liverpool, Sunderland – 2011–13, 2014–16

    Diego Forlán – Manchester United – 2001–05

    Ignacio María González – Newcastle United – 2008–09

    Abel Hernández – Hull City – 2014–15, 2016–17

    Walter Alberto López – West Ham United – 2008–09

    Williams Martínez – West Bromwich Albion – 2005–06

    Walter Pandiani – Birmingham City – 2004–06

    Adrián Paz – Ipswich Town – 1994–95

    Omar Pouso – Charlton Athletic – 2006–07

    Diego Poyet – West Ham United – 2014–15

    Gus Poyet – Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur – 1997–2004

    Gastón Ramírez – Southampton, Hull City, Middlesbrough – 2012–17

    Darío Silva – Portsmouth – 2005–06

    Gonzalo Sorondo – Crystal Palace, Charlton Athletic – 2004–07

    Cristhian Stuani – Middlesbrough – 2016–17

    Luis Suárez – Liverpool – 2010–14

    Guillermo Varela – Manchester United – 2015–16

    Lucas Torreira - Arsenal - 2018-19

     

    Venezuela

    Fernando Amorebieta – Fulham – 2013–14

    Salomón Rondón – West Bromwich Albion – 2015–18

    Danny Ings

    in The Saints

    Posted

    Why are you asking him? He is making it up.

     

    Is he though? Did he just get lucky with his Vestergaard and Gunn predictions and he was right about Shaqiri going to Liverpool before it was in the press.

    Danny Ings

    in The Saints

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    If we are signing 2 strikers then Ings is worth a gamble at 5-7m

     

    If he's our only striker purchase this summer then it's another major f-up by the club.

     

    Sign Ings and Vincent Aboubakar and sell Long and loan out Sam G = good times.

    Everton: It's happening

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    How is this Saints related?

     

    A few on here are Everton obseesed. Increased after they took Koeman off us.

     

    U only need to flick through the 142 page (7,000 posts) "detectors watch" thread to see we have a few weak and bitter fans.

    Danny Ings

    in The Saints

    Posted

    Has zero relevance to this discussion

     

    Just evidence that the club will overpay for very average talent.

     

    But agree zero relevance to this as its only the same club, same management and more overpriced average talent. + the Carillo catastrophe was years ago right.

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