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he doesn't play. How about going to support Lallana -great to watch, really tries and may not be here long - I tend to look at the pitch not directors box
second sentence sums up why most have given up , club with no future.
me i still go but that is because for 48 years of support i still cannot believe the mess we made of the last 12 years, sky giving us money and the management basically through bad football club management blew it.
yes we got to a cup final but we were built on financial sand in 1996 and never propped it up with extra investment due to the old boys club which still runs SLH
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Is it just me that doesn't get it? I love this club, I have supported it for nearly 40 years, I have made my son love it too, poor lad, even though we live in a PO postcode. It's not negotiable - we are season ticket holders, we go to every home game, we cheer the team on, we groan in despair at some selections/decisions, but we keep supporting and we hope and we keep hoping.
I am not a customer - I am a customer of Sainsburys, but not of Southampton. I am a fan (short for fanatic), devoted to supporting my club through thick and thin and it really, REALLY p*sses me off that when the club desperately needs our help and support so many mealy-mouthed 'customers' and alleged supporters find excuses not to turn up and back the lads who do their very best for us every week. It is nothing to do with Lowe or the credit-crunch or anything else, it is a lot of self-justifying whining from people who can't accept we are no longer in the Prem. We might get relegated, we might have to sell off our bright young stars, but then again, we might yet amaze everyone, and I bet if we are pushing for the play-offs come March all these fair-weather fans will find some warped justification to start coming back again.
It is bloody simple - it is our club, not Lowes or Wildes or some Arab businessman who might buy us on a whim's club. But ours. And to me it is shameful that all these petty people actually think that administration or relegation will in some way be a good thing while they stay away feeling smugly superior to us poor saps who turn out in rain and frost to cheer the team on. YOUR club needs you. Prove you are a true fan, not a customer, and get off your asses and support them at their darkest hour.
who first called us customers?
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We get this no matter which game disc is inserted. I have used a lens clean disc, the audio type one, it plays and I can skip to the required tracks as I follow the instructions. Still no play on the games though.
Is the machine knackered or would any kind soul have any ideas?
At less than £95 a new console isn't out of the question.
had the same issue with my youngest son's PS2 a few years back and after talking to their help line re the cost of repair we just bought another one
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Add to that that it was a mad minority that forced the club to avoid appointing Glenn Hoddle after WGS left. Surely, if we had done that relegation would not have happened.
one trick pony
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"The customer is always right"
we were customers when Sky bankrolled the club NOW we are suddenley supporters again ???????????????
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Inspired by the Pub brawl thread.
The worst pub i have ever been to has to be the Ark in Townhill.
I have vague memories of some real **** holes in town like the Glasgow?
the old Rising Sun in Botany Bay road
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The point is why should fans pay big money to watch ****? Why should they support the club when the best players are sent out on loan to rivals? Now if Lowe hadn't treated the fans as customers maybe more would be sympathetic and support the club despite this. But he's behaved like a **** for 10 years and now he is being treated like one.
your last 2 sentences are the nub of the matter and irrespective of results that under current will always be there
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I don't think Lowe will risk any more cash if we go into Administration.
i do not think he has much to risk
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Presumably Mike Wilde will be saying i am sorry i appointed the previous regime that did most of the damage
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Really tells us nothing about CURRENT position, as accounts are now 5 months old
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Problem is you cannot say we have to be realistic about expectations because of our finance and then say you hope the board do not sell players in January to maintain financial stability.
Unless we win home games , the crowd stays away , income is down and selling players becomes our only option unless the finances are not as bad as we are being led to believe
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By the way Tim, Warsash top of Junior one in Southampton Saturday Football league and playing Home games back at Osborne Road for the first time in 5 years
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Fantastic performance from him today. MUST start next week, even if Killer and Pearce are both available.
Reads the game so well. Organised the defence fantastically and helped us dig in when Reading got a goal back. His experience is invaluable. He had a decent understaning with Cork and especially Skacel. A lot of Reading attacks game down our left second half, but those two covered each other brilliantly.
Just thought I'd make a point of it as he really has turned the side around since he came on at halftime against Wolves..
Totally agree I have already mentioned in a couple of other threads that Perry and Skacel in the back 4 gave us the base to attack Reading today , something that has been sadly lacking at SMS
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Perhaps the ancient incumbent in the hole role wasn't in fact suited to the job, as I may have mentioned on occasions.
clever you
perhaps you should have written to JP
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I think it sometimes looked 442 because DMG played closer to Robertson
Maybe his best position?
Exactly we got support into the front man much quicker today because DMG and BWP appeared to have been given more freedom to get forward than they do in home games
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His name is Ronnie Davies, he's the leader of the team
The greatest centre forward that the world has ever seen
You always can rely on him to score a vital goal
And as for Bobby Charlton you stick him up your hole
La la la la la chorus whilst jumping up and down on The Milton
We all agree our keeper is better than Yashin
Ron Davies is better than Eusabio
And Pompey are in for a thrashin
And when we played dirty Leeds
Lankey Jack Lankey Jack get off Rons back your a load of crap
Happy days
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Agree with you Tim but should add that the work done by Perry and Skacel today gave us a base to take the game to Reading, something we have failed to do at SMS
Hopefully JP will keep the same side for Tuesday at SMS
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Just got back i believe having Perry and Skacel in back four enabled us to play 4-4-2 but in a different way.
Whilst Robertson was up front all the time DMG and BWP almost took it in turn to join him as did Lallana.
We now to follow this up with a win on Tuesday , hopefully we can have an unchanged side
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each to their own, funny comparison using the Wolves game v games at the end of last season. Wolves was better game for the neutral, more skill, enthusiam and spirit shown than nearly any game last year.
Neutral , strange word to use as a Saints Supporter
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I would have thought so and as I said earlier we are likely to be in for a very bumpy and uncertain ride for a few years at least. But at least we have avoided Administration for the very immediate future.
why the signing off of the accounts proves nothing other than the auditors are happy they give a true and fair view of the results to a point in time, nothing to stop the tax man issuing a writ tomorrow
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Should be more worried by what we owe the Inland Revenue than those whose debt is secured.
Most clubs go into admin because of tax man rather than banks
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Good god, someone trying to start a "where's the money gone" rant for a £5m deal agreed nearly ten years ago?
What next - "where's the money gone" from the £2m we got for Tim Flowers?
just out of interest where did it go
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Hi Mike,
Yes it's sad when people who have loved their involvement with Saints for so many years are so utterly appalled by those who have got their grubby hands on what IMO is really and truly a community asset, that they feel compelled to turn their back on such a big part of their life and simply walk away. This must tell anyone all they need to know about the standing of the current regime amongst even the most dedicated of fan. As a matter of interest did Chris have any active involvement in SMS coming about?
Now on to football matters... I presume you are referring to the promotion game at Leyton Orient, but I think that would have been 1965? I was only a young bloke then and couldn't get to the game that night, but can still remember a nerve wracking night by the radio in the attic of our home in East Cowes waiting for news of the game.
When the result came through and I knew we were up, well I knew then I would be a Saints fan forever. It was exciting times knowing that my (relatively) small club would be mixing it with the big boys!
I guess that's why I'm so upset about the ruination that Lowe has inflicted on my club as truly good people worked so hard for many years after that promotion to turn us from a small club into a stable and respected top flight outfit the envy of many... then along came Lowe.
You know 4 or 5 years ago I spoke to MLT at a function and actually thanked him to his face for keeping us in the Premier league, off his own boot so to speak. Matt was modest and insisted he had little to do with it (he's such a nice guy), but when I look back on that conversation now I could cry at what's happened to us since. Poor Matty must wonder if it was ever worth pulling on that boot in the first place...
Age befuddles the brain
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Anyone reading through this thread would be under no illusion whatsoever as to the near terminal damage Rupert Lowe has wrought on SFC, this once much loved asset of a great city.
It really is like watching the last days of the Roman empire as a mighty institution falls despairingly into it's death throes. Nero stayed to the bitter end, but Lowe simply must not be allowed to if SFC is to survive against the odds.
Lowe has no business right to remain as his stewardship has seen a decline in the company's fortunes to rival Lehmann Bros in it's swift descent. Furthermore Lowe has no moral authority to continue to control an organisation that is an essential part of the local community fabric and wherein the overwhelming majority of that local community have rejected utterly both Lowe the business man and Lowe the person.
Now I realise Lowe may see football as a business, but even in this day and age I believe football club owners have a responsibility to the community their club serves and must make an effort to intergrate with that society. Any sane owner would want to do this anyway as they need the financial support of fans to maintain the business.
All of the above is IMHO, as is the fact that Lowe appears to be totally out of his depth as a football cub owner (well the 6% of it that he actually owns), his decision making has been a litany of disasters over several years until we find ourselves standing on the precipice we are today.
The Luvvies coming on this forum and blaming the fans will simply no longer do. Read this thread again to see the anguish and despair that Lowe has wrought on this club and it's community. The message has to get through that this man has to go once and for all and it does seem that the tide may at last be turning as this week MLT has spoken out and in today's echo well known Saints fan Chris Newman has opened his heart on the crisis engulfing his club.
Perhaps the winds of change really are blowing if the Echo are prepared to publish such heresy! However, I believe pressure must continue to be applied by whomever is able to do so, in order to create a tidal wave even Lowe cannot ignore, before it really is too late.
As to a replacement I can only go on rumours, but it does seem that Leon Crouch is keen to take it on again, only this time with help from well regarded business men and enough funds to avoid the threat of administration and the selling of our best players in January.
Quite frankly that seems like nirvana (not the rock band) compared to our current circumstances and would at least give us a fighting go at staying in this league. However, if any other groups with appropriate means are monitoring the situation then now would be a very good time to act....
Once again all IMHO
Went to school with Chris Newman, he was a year older than me , remember we were the only 2 kids who went to Leyton in 67.
Chris stopped going to games when Lowe returned, the hate runs deep and many try to play it down, without the likes of Chris SMS would never have happened.
Administration inevitable
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BUT you do have the answers ?