James G

There is one solution. They could conclude the Man City case, relegate them, then give Middlesbrough their place We go up via the playoffs then we can spy on them again next year for old time sake

I thought the players look angry and frustrated on the pitch, and Tonda looked like he wanted to say something but couldn't. I know the rest of the world read Tonda in a different way, but we know him It just feels there is more to the story I know the silence is frustrating, but I'd back Dragan in a court case over Gibson every day of the week. If nothing else, look what the silence has done to WendyFC, they've shot themselves in the foot with their reaction

Yeah, it'll be ai It gives you a window into how strange folk are

Go for it Gibson will have all these reporters in his pocket, they'll spin for him if necessary. I'm sure even the MP for Middlesbrough spoke about it He's just gone too far with it all

I think it'll go quiet soon That statement has turned the tide of opinion, and their forum is looking slowly more quiet and reflective I know Gibson will want a pound of flesh, but good luck against Dragan I'm still wondering if there will be a twist at the end.

We are the good guys again

It might be a cardboard cutout of Will Salt. I'm sure you can get them on Amazon

I wish FIFA had mini game where football club owners could fight, Street Fighter style, with special moves

I think it's last roll of the dice time for Middlesbrough They've concocted mass hysteria, now they've released a strongly worded, desperate, statement They have tried to pressure the enquiry with all sorts of shenanigans, but obviously they'll justify their behavior because we were in the wrong in the beginning. Hopefully after this, they let the panel decide. I'm hoping afterwards that their behaviour is addressed as well. Two wrongs don't make a right, or so they say

Edit...wrong thread

I think they've tried for years to create rivalries with Sunderland and Newscastle, but have been laughed away This is their one chance to have a rivalry with someone, somewhere

I think also by releasing a statement, it puts the story back into orbit again with all the newspapers, keeps the news frenzy going

Your Sincerely, Desperate Dan

I'm just waiting to see what the Pope has to say about it all I wonder if they'll release smoke to indicate when the panel have made their decision

I wonder if William Salt will leave a bad review on TripAdvisor for Rockcliffe Hall, despite it's excellent spa facilities and on site golf course.

Any theories are good It's interesting that Salt wasn't in the two recent photos for manager of the month. It's interesting that two profiles were removed from LinkedIn. It's also interesting that Tonda seemed really keen to talk about it but couldn't There's more to it for sure

I wonder if Banksy will install an unmoveable statue of Will Salt with binoculars in the grounds of Rockcliffe Hall

Also, Will Salt was spying on the supplementary training pitch. If the main team were training on that pitch and not on the main training pitch round the back, how did Will Salt know where to film

I think the Middlesbrough forum knew the EFL statement was coming out too I think people do know stuff, but they are mixing in spin and fake news with fact to create this whirlwind of drama I've seen posts on X that were definitely fake, then an article in one of their local papers based on the X post I've never seen anything like it If it wasn't for Keir Starmer, we'd probably be the top news story

I bet Steve Gibson is telling the papers to write, I can't believe Southampton spied on our training pitches from the car park of Rockcliffe Hall, which not only has excellent spa facilities but also has an site golf course

The thing is, Middlesbrough are poor from set pieces, why would we want to watch them There is literally no reason to spy on them, which makes me think there is more to the story

I can't see other clubs getting involved Even when Leeds did it, and they spied on everyone and trespassed on private property. I'm sure it was against Derby they were caught, and Lampard, their manager at the time, said that he wouldn't call it cheating, but it does cross a line. Two days later, he laughed about it and said, it is what it is, we move on Just a totally different reaction back then to something worse. It's Boro's reaction to this which has shaped opinions and I don't think they're going to be happy with the outcome I just can't see us getting thrown out because, if nothing else, the world cup starts very soon afterwards.

I know. But it's a very strange coincidence. Shutting down social media profiles would make sense for an investigation, so it surely must involve those two parties The clues we have are, Saints haven't denied it, they claim it to be a lone wolf thing, and these two had their profiles shut down at the same time, one of them is ex Middlesbrough so he would know where to stand

If both LinkedIn profiles were taken down at the same time, maybe the whole incident was the two of them. Salt was wanting to further his credentials, so he consulted the other guy who had worked at Boro who said come and watch from here, that's where everyone stands. Then further down the road, because Salt was caught and Boro have made a fuss, Salt has implicated the other guy who is now possibly defending himself by helping Boro

I think any punishments should be given to the individuals involved and not the club as a whole The Middlesbrough manager himself said it wasn't about us, or the players etc.. so on that basis that is where the focus should be