James G

I wonder if like every great movie there will be a twist at the end. Like someone invited him to watch, or he was watching their U21s, or something else random

So the EFL will carry copies of the Daily Star and Mail into the panel and present Boro's case. He was behind a tree, in a bush on a hill. He had professional recording equipment, a mobile phone, and he left the scene donning a fake tache and a hat. We think Southampton should be thrown out because Troy Deeney says so and please stop looking at page 3

It'll be regarded as hearsay anyway I'm guessing

I wonder if Gibbo's office has a Wizard of Oz vibe with his large angry head projected onto a screen

If Boro fans are wanting a day out at Wembley, they can go and watch Harry Styles in June

Yeah, I noticed that as well There's probably more to it that we don't know. The hill, bush, professional recording equipment, altercation etc.. has made me wonder what the truth is. And his exit might have been popping to the loo then leaving turned into something else more dramatic sounding. Who knows

It's not mandated spying. He was spying the wrong training pitch, using a phone and very visible I think it's just going to be a case of, based on what was posted earlier, this is what analyst interns do as part of our education, it's generally accepted by clubs. Salt could get other interns in to corroborate this. The panel will probably decide this activity needs to stop. New guidance will be issued to clubs. It'll be deemed unsporting, but we gained very little from it. We'll get a slap on the wrist in some way We then move on, but Gibson will continue his press barrage and try and sue us I do think action should be taken against Boro just for all this nonsense, but just based on what people have posted here, it's probably not worth the bother. He seems a bit unhinged and it'll be the equivalent of poking a tiger

If the EFL thought there was any chance of us getting thrown out, the match wouldn't go ahead. Everything is risk assessed these days However, by going ahead with the match, they have cast judgment if you think about it so the press release has to be seen as being non judgemental, hence the wording. It's all a bit smoke and mirrors really. If the match was to be cancelled or rearranged, apart from the logistical nightmare on many levels, people will question why the EFL let the match go ahead and why they let people buy tickets, travel, hotels etc.. That's my thinking anyway

We could send Bill Pepper round too, but I wouldn't want to Push It

It's like those experiments they do in psychology, if you line up 12 people, and get 10 of them to do something, the other two copy of the actions of the other 10. Group psychology By putting stories everywhere and getting their cult fans to post cheat cheat cheat, other people are swayed into that narrative. Alot of the early conversation was mild, people were either non opinionated, or posting jokes. We're now seeing alot of those people getting sucked in by their campaign probably without realising

Well, I think they are not confident which is why they are pushing down hard on this press campaign to cause us damage that way

I think it's about causing as much reputational damage to us as possible in the moment, plus I'm guessing they are trying to affect us so we don't win They've infiltrated mainstream media and they are trying to control the narrative, pushing the story that we are sin personified on the general public I've never seen anything like it. It's almost biblical

Are they allowed to release information that is being used in an investigation

Both training grounds would be near impossible to view according to Google, so it's probably fake

Yeah, I suppose so But that's something else. I read it was on a hill, then in a bush. It was a tree next to the car park. Just strange how it all changed over time

https://share.google/FgXwPOuFYLkrdy1xi It looks like their own fans go to the same spot and watch them train

We are now the bad boys of football, it's just the way things have planned out It is what it is

I'll echo other sentiments, they are a really good team, maybe just missing a big man up top. I just wish they had let the two games play out, let the investigation happen, then get worked up about it all afterwards They have gone into overdrive from the get go about something neither team can control, and their team have played themselves into the ground in the first 60 minutes of the first game which has ultimately decided their fate

We will be far too much for Hull, 3 or 4 to 1 after a rest If life goes against us, then Hull should go up in place of Middlesbrough If they had been classy and respected process, I'd say otherwise. We might be Shitsville, Arizona after everything, but I just don't think Boro have reacted with class.

Even when they scored, I felt confident throughout for whatever reason. At the beginning, I thought, they're not pressing, they are conserving energy for a late push After 30 minutes, it was clear they were tired To be honest,.we should have beaten them more comfortably

To be fair, we never looked we spied on Boro play wise. And they had their chances first half, first game I genuinely think they have knocked themselves out

Verge on dirty Ah c'mon Ayling

Come on Ayling

If they just let stuff go, it gives them more of a chance We didn't knock them out, they did this to themselves Maybe we'll be disqualified, but it's not the right way to win. It's a wing and a prayer approach to football

They played well the first half of the first game Now they're dependant on us being disqualified Even then, Hull will probably benefit Tonda Karate