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  1. so if i gave you £60,000 to £100,00 less for what your house is worth then whats its worth,you would be very happy and not class that as stealing:lol: god i heard some bs in my time.

     

    Of course I wouldn't be happy to sell my house under market value. But we're not talking about me, we're talking about the state. And one of the functions of the state is to redistribute wealth from the more fortunate ("the rich") to the less fortunate ("the poor"). Nobody in any party really disagrees with this (no matter what people think about the Tories!) - the only questions that are really up for grabs are "how?", and "how much?".

     

    Is it also "stealing" that the government coerces with my employer to forcibly take thousands of pounds of my money from me annually and then just gives it away to other people who I have never even met?!

     

    What about the controlled rent on council houses? By your argument, asking for tenants to pay rent below the market rate is also short changing the tax payer.

     

    Regardless of the other rights and wrongs of right-to-buy (and there are some quite interesting arguments and points in this thread beneath all the mud slinging) selling state-owned property at a discounted rate to tenants (who are on average going to be some of society's less well-off) is LITERALLY a redistribution of wealth.

  2. Hey you're taking this to a new level playing the racial card........add religion next time.......

     

    Hmmm, replying on basis of simple word recognition instead of actually comprehending what's being said.... are you Siri?

  3. I'm a bit surprised to see people characterising right-to-buy as stealing from the taxpayer, in order to give to those living in council houses.

     

    It's practically the very definition of wealth redistribution.

  4. Try to relax and enjoy it from the very first corner.

     

    If you worry too much about crashing the extremely expensive hunk of metal/carbon fibre that you're piloting then you'll find your laps have finished before you really get warmed up.

  5. Do you really know what happened ???.......if you are pulled over for a traffic stop you don't run away and keep going after being told to stop.....what part of that don't you understand eh???

     

    Ok, so you've gone from defending guns (I don't agree, but I do at least understand the self defence argument... although not the point of the 2nd amendment) to now outright defending murder because the victim tried to run away from a cop. Mental.

  6. And you know what, no ****, all devs are like him. Hard work trying to get them to do anything that the business actually wants, and not what they want/can be bothered to do.

     

    If you can't get what you want from the devs, then you should smash their stuff up.

  7. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/09/david-cameron-pledges-freeze-regulated-rail-fares-five-years

     

    I'm confused about why freezing energy prices is dangerous socialism but freezing rail fares is the big society in action

     

    Well one is a highly competitive marketplace for commodity products, with minimal barriers to switching (other than laziness, frankly).

     

    The other isn't ... fixed term franchise agreements (monopolies) with safeguards on prices controlled by a regulator. Still agree though that the regulator should be left to do its job.

  8. 1981 – Brixton riot of 1981, (London, England)

    1981 – Toxteth riots (Liverpool, England)

    1981 – Moss Side riots (Manchester, England)

    1981 – Chapeltown riot Leeds, England

    1981 – Handsworth Riots, (Birmingham, England)

    1985 – Brixton riot of 1985, September 28, (London, England)

    1985 – Second Handsworth riots, September 11, (Birmingham, England)

    1985 – Broadwater Farm Riot, Oct. 6, (London, England)

    1987 – Chapeltown riot Leeds, England

    1995 – Brixton riot of 1995, (London, England)

    2011 – Riots in London which spread to other cities in England, over a hundred injured and 5 killed

     

    Vote Conservative and enjoy riotous times.

     

    Yes, riots exclusively happen under Conservative / coalition governments.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/1/newsid_2480000/2480215.stm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_riots

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_riots

  9. If dune were still about, he'd be telling us how Trident keeps us at the "top table", and that going around threatening people with nukes is good diplomacy.

     

    Not the purpose of the nuclear deterrent as you well know

  10. The statistics are somewhat meaningless without the context, and most of the comments made in support of the links are either rhetorical or redundant. Sarnia is in the wrong for not taking anything on board, but if all we're doing is bunging ordnance on the decks, then I can't really blame him for saying that people are just US bashing.

     

    Most people are.

     

    Can't be bothered to go and check every post, but i really don't think most posts are outright bashing the US. The focus of the argument is - in the main - on the specific reluctance to even consider a different approach to firearms... or that there is even a problem to address in the first place.

     

    Throwing news articles around is just a blunt instrument to demonstrate that there is an issue there.

  11. I assume you ignored the unfortunate and verifiable facts that Farage pointed out about how this government have borrowed MORE than Labour did in their whole term of office and STILL the deficit is rising? but hey, don't let doctrine get in the way the facts.

     

    In absolute terms, perhaps. As a percentage of GDP, the budget deficit is falling and the national debt is levelling off.

  12. I know that you think you're probably doing a fine job of corralling people into a trap, but you're just not equipped for the task, mush.

     

    My points stand on their own. You already have the answers you need.

     

    Nice ad hominem.

     

    No trap intended - but I am surprised to hear someone on "the left" say both that (1) higher rate tax payers are paying enough and (2) that it would be possible to reduce public spending in any significant/useful way. Actually quite refreshing and probably shows that the simplistic left vs right view is just skating over the surface of the more nuanced debate that is really required.

  13. You're talking about the shortfall as if it is an inevitability.

     

    It's only inevitable if we HAVE to spend money on all the things we spend cash on (we don't) and we're collecting all the tax that we possibly could under the existing rules (we're not).

     

    As I said before, I already pay far more tax into the system than I am ever going to get back out. That money, if properly managed and supplemented with actual f**king corporation tax rates, and actual taxable cost centres in the UK, ought to be enough.

     

    So you're in favour of cutting overall public spending?

  14. The 45% band is too low, the 40% band is too low, the personal allowance needs to be higher still.

     

    The one thing that f**ks me right off at the moment, is that no one talks about the fact that when you reach £100k, your personal allowance gets eroded away, £1 for every £2 you earn over that. Utterly ridiculous.

     

    Yep - adds an effective 20% (or 22.5% for the highest rate payers) to the marginal tax rate between £100k and £120k. So that £20k of income is actually being taxed at 60%.

  15. Half the population OK ............did you know that SW Ontario pop. about 2 million is larger than the UK?? .........HTH

     

    Ah I see what you're saying ... death by police shootings per sq km is a more useful metric than death by police shootings per capita? Glad that's cleared up.

  16. You get my point though? Labour could easily have re-nationalised those indutries, they had 13 years in power in the end, but they chose not to.

     

    Quite. Part of Labour's 1997 campaign was a pledge to re-nationalise the railways...

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