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Maybe, just maybe, my friend (and also her sister who's a flight attendant for a NZ airline) finds the term offensive. SHE calls HERSELF a flight attendant, so I'm basing my comments on HER experience.
You got any other nits you want to pick?
My mrs is an air stewardess for Virgin.
She finds trolley dolly offensive, whilst she finds flight attendent too americanised.
I have to say, I prefer "air stewardess" personally.
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I liked Steve Rimington's holiday snaps on his flickr.
Especially his med cruise on the Grand Princess. They clearly did the Rome for a day and Livorno (Florence & Pisa) excursions.
He also has some great pictures from his day out at Marwell Zoo.
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But really the point I was making was more for JB's benefit. Here's one 'leftie' who has huge sympathy for anyone who loses his / her job.
Ah, but you're different to the rest on here BTF.
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Anyway, was listening to the radio on the way to a christening yesterday and Ed Miliband was on. Completely uninspiring, colourless fortysomething Islington/Notting Hill gimp like the rest of them. Still that's a given for all party leaders - someone with a bit about them is far too dangerous, eh.
Completely agree with your last comment. None of the party leaders are inspirational and they all come from the same mould. Great leaders inspire people...... and that is what this country needs right now.
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Even you don't believe that surely?
Many of us have partners/friends who lost their jobs and are you suggesting we didn't care? Never had you down as being so pathetically dogmatic.
A pity, thought more of you.
To be fair, I didn't say that you didn't 'care' so to speak. I guess the point I was trying to make was that in the world of the SWF Lounge, there was little out pouring of grief. I brought this subject up last year before the election on numerous occasions. Lefties generally bang on about the public sector, whilst they do not pay too much credence to the 1m+ that have lost their jobs through no fault of their own. It's just an observation and it doesn't seem fair to me.
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The way I see it the more our left wing comrades complain the better. It shows that the government are dispensing the medicine properly.
...but I thought socialism was about everyone, not just public sector workers.
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Too many people are looking at this as statistics, 20% here, 45% there. In reality, it's tens of thousands of innocent people losing their jobs and it's nothing to get excited about or hail as a great victory for the Coalition. God only knows what's going to happen with the 410k people losing their jobs in the public sector, I doubt they'll be able to find jobs in the private sector because they're cutting there as well. When the Great Depression hit the US in the 30s, the US Government created masses of job creation schemes, training people in useful vocations and creating thousands of jobs for them to combat the scores of job losses suffered when everything collapsed. I don't think the Coalition will be doing that, do you?
Hi SuperDuper Mikey,
Your concern is really touching. Shame you didn't give a toss when 1 million private sector workers (many of them the lowest paid in society) lost their jobs between 2007 and 2009. I didn't hear any of the lefties on here protesting about the increase in employers NI which is a direct taxation on job creation at a time when jobs needed to be created.
A million people lose their jobs and not a murmour from the lefties.
As some consolation, many of the public sector workers losing their jobs will get favourable terms compared to someone in the private sector, losing their job when a company folds where they is no redundancy and unpaid salary.
It seems to me that lefties only care about public sector workers, who are far better paid and far better protected than their private sector counterparts, but I suppose it is a case of "look after your own".
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Up until the crash, our debt and deficit was lower than when labour came to power. Labour did not chronically overspend for 13 years.
Not quite sure about that:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5097706.stm
Remember that this was over a year before the financial crisis.
In their early tenure, they didn't overspend. For the first two years, Brown adopted tory spending plans, however once Brown started to believe his own hype, he went on a spending spree.
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Jeff, why didn't you post that PM on this thread rather than sending privately it to me? What is all that stuff about being brave behind a keyboard about? I don't get it?
I think he meant being hard behind the keyboard and after reading the election thread, he's not wrong.
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That speech gave me an erection.
I just checked the thread title and it definately said "if there was an election tomorrow". Anyway, I am honoured as I don't ever recall Cameron, Clegg or Miliband turning you on. Those with errectile disfunction will be turning to my party on mass and we will no longer be known as a nation of softies.
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Are you thinking of a Confederacy of Dunces?
As it happens, you can be intelligent with little common sense. Intelligence is great for academia and certificates, but does not guarantee success. A party with common sense, drive, ambition, guts and a bit of nous will make this country great again. For the academics amongst us, who don't buy into my vision, they are welcome to be university lecturers, in order that they can feel secure in their closeted world, intellectualising to their hearts content.
My party is a party for all (including Film Studies graduates. oh, and intellectuals too), and you are either on the bus or at the bus stop.
A vote for Johnny B, is a vote for a great future.
It is as simple as that.
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If there was an election tomorrow, I'd vote for.........., **** it, me.
I have had enough, all politicians of all parties are ****s and with me at the helm, I would put the great back into Britain. Common sense would prevail and we would ALL be better off for it.
If I can get Fuengirola Saint, VFTT and Dune to agree with me, it is clear that I would be the party of all persuasions.
If there was an election tomorrow, I would stand as a common sense independent.
Vote Johnny B
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I wonder whether there's something self-selecting in the way this forum attracts such a high percentage twisting loons from the right and far-right. Labour supporters (and liberals with a small 'l') are a small minority on here, and yet over 40% of the voting population now supports Labour. Football, a traditional working class sport, would, you might expect, attract more rather than fewer Labour supporters.
I would suggest that the vast majority are Left of centre on here....that showed on the SWF political compass. However, it is the most vocal from both sides that get noticed. Thankfully there are balanced posters like me around to keep the peace and fly the flag for logic.
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I think Deppo's point about experience was aimed at the dweebish, barely competent Gove, who I can't imagine entering an FE college without holding his nose. You of course are entitled to your opinion - although I'm surprised you're a taxpayer.
I pay my fair share as I'm a caring kind of guy
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Chamberlain only occasionally plays upfront. I think chants should at least be accurate (like the Lee Barnard one
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Agreed, but needed to get the **** in the chant and front fits quite nicely.
OK, we could have:
We've got Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, playing out wide,
He is better than Gareth Bale, who's boss is snide
When he scores in his red sash
He makes theo look gash
We've got Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, playing out wide
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I think they should make people who bang on about how schools should be run go and work in a school for a month, teaching those horrible little kids.
I think you're right Deppo. How silly of me. Obviously having two kids in the education system, employing the end product of the education system and paying my taxes which goes towards funding the system gives me no right to form, hold and express an opinion.
Now, can you go on the main board and tell everyone that unless they are / have been a professional footballer / manager / coach, that they have to sign up for a professional club before spouting off on the internet?
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How about this (to the tune of she'll be coming round the mountain when she comes)
We've got Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, playing up front,
He is better than Gareth Bale, the judas ****
When he scores in his red sash
He makes theo look gash
We've got Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, playing up front
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He's got a long name
He's got a long naaammmeee
Alex oxlade chamberlain
Hee got a long name.
I prefer mine as it has **** in it. In general, there are not enough chants with the **** word in it if you ask me. West Ham have a great chant that goes aong the lines of:
Redknapp, you're a ***
Redkapp, Redknap, you're a ****
Redknapp, you're a ***
Redkapp, Redknap, you're a ****
It is now my ring tone
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But I think the problem is that Gove has effectively made Geography/History and French/German/Latin core subjects as schools and students will be shoehorned to include these on top of what I would deem core (English, Maths & Science). With schools being judged in league tables on the English Baccalaureate, there will most definitely be a push to put students through these extra subjects irrespective of their desire or ability. Year 9 Options will be a thing of the past!!
In the globalised world in which we live, foreign languages are more important than ever, once the basics of English have been grasped. I did Latin at school and whilst it is not widely spoken, it teaches you the basic structures of all languages (incuding IT/software) and instills a sense of logic which can be cleary seen in my posting style.
I would rather see mandarin and cantonese (even Hindi and Russia) taught over French and German as these are the languages of the future.
This kind looks forward, as you suggest.
As to pursuing subjects you enjoy, I personally believe that this can come down to the teacher of that given subject in a school - an inspirational teacher can make any subject sound interesting.
I wouldn't compare yourself to Gove, unless you could have been an extra in Thunderbirds
Michael Gove
Um Pahars
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The core subjects should remain just that. However, as on the continent, young people should also have the option of studying non academic topics alongside them from 14/15 upwards. Why force non academic kids to study History & French, which they will simply turn off from. You cannot make a 15/16 year old learn when they really don't give a fat rat's arse.
More focus on the core subjects up to 16 would mean that folk like myself wouldn't have to teach the current crop of school leavers the basics of maths and English when they get onto FE!
The NC does need an overhaul but decent vocational courses should be valued as they really do help a large percentage of young people.
I am glad you sort of agree.
The caller into the Gove phone in (Not a fan of Gove, he is wooden, looks like a thunderbird puppet and is arrogant) tried to make the point that all subjects are the same. I would prefer that youngsters were more profficient in maths and english (the basics to get on in life) than breed a nation of Richard Cladymans.
By all means we should have options for non critical subjects, but the focus should be on these core subjects. You really shouldn't be teaching adults maths and English as this should have been done properly during schooling.
From my personal experience, I found the most interesting subjects at school were down to the quality of the teachers. Some had the natural ability to engage pupils and make the most boring of subjects interesting and even fun. Whilst others, made fun and interesting subjects seem boring. So for me, the teachers were far more important than the subject matter in itself.
I would like to see more vocational courses at school and college, whilst seeing a return to apprentiships. Whilst the liberals amongst us view that education is about expanding the mind, I prefer to view it as preparing people for work (whilst they are still free to expand their minds in their own time, should they wish).
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We need Brighton and P'boro to draw. P'boro have a game in hand, so if they beat Brighton and win their game in hand, they'd be 1 point behind us - too close for comfort. A draw for them would mean that if we won, we would extend our lead over them by 2 points, whilst closing the gap on Brighton by 2 points. A good days work.
With Brighton playing bournemouth next week, another draw would be required, so if we win against Tranmere, we gain another 2 points on Brighton and extend our lead over b'mouth by two points.
Wednesday play Charlton today, so another draw here please.
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Not to a concert pianist.
Great, lets have a nation of pianists. Kiss goodbye to your NHS, free eductation and welfare state.
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To be fair to Michael Gove, all subjects are not equal. The basics of English and Maths are far more important than playing the piano. If we want to compete as a nation on a global scale, core subjects will enable us to do that.
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With regard to Cameron he may speak quite well but he has got the country in a hell of a mess in only nine months
That's quite an acheivement considering he has been PM for only 8 months
Ed Milliband
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Diagree there Hypo. Being a good stewardess requires more than just competency.
You have to be able to take control of situations, think on your feet and deal effectively with situations.
My mrs is in charge of the flight and has to deal with Medical emergencies (not always help at hand at 35,000 feet mid atlantic) and Violent situations (not disimilar to those faced by the police sometimes, except for the fact there is no back up, body armour or batons at 35,000 feet). Granted that these don't happen all the time, but nevertheless you need to be able to deal with it effectively and in my experience, not many people can. There are many other examples I could give.
I personally don't think it is that easy to be a good stewardess (certainly good senior cabin crew) and you need an element of natural ability/charisma to do the job well (which most people don't have).