Arizona

Manky, soggy, tasteless, revolting little b*stards.

Ramirez and Puncheon ripped them to pieces. Lallana and Clyne were also quality. Lambert was everywhere, Morgan and Davis brilliant, Yoshida won everything... What a choice, but Gaston edges it for me. World class!!

Who on earth is skintsaint, by the way? I know of justmike of course, the flag debacle brought him to prominence. Can't say I've ever noticed Mr Skint before now.

 

Perhaps the new mongboard SS can give us a run-down of their backgrounds and perhaps a introduction to what type of moderation we can expect from them?

Well, don't expect to see anything of Mike on matchdays. He is usually propping up the bar in town from midday onwards.

Lol, I dont see any evidence of being sent off,it is a figment of your imagination, but the camera caught you looking like a rabbit in the headlights as you didn't know where to stand! it reminded me of the gawky kid at school who only played with his trainset and had no idea what the rules of football were

So you were stalking me when I was at school.

I ask this every year - can I be team physio please

You'll have your work cut out. Make sure you do your homework when it comes to cramp:lol:

How good are the people who play in these games? Is it a similar standard to the old fleming park training games?

2 legs and you're a shoe in.

For me the highlight of last years game was this (off camera) gem.

W000000T!!

Did we ever get those missing pictures up from last years game?

I've always wanted a trip to Vauxhall Motors.

Right. I'm hoping to do Medicine next year, hopefully at one of the better so called 'Russell Group' universities. Now, no-one can dispute that studying medicine at university is some easy go to uni for the hell of it choice. It is hard word, 6 years of hard work and the job at the end of it definitely contributes to society... we need doctors in this country.

 

If these plans go ahead in their pure form, then what future Medicine students would be look at would be £12,000 of tuition fees every year. It's a 6 year course, so that is £72,000 debt with only tuition fees. Add in living costs and accommodation and it wouldn't be surprising to see some debts pushing, if not going over the £100,000 mark. Do we want people from this country to join this profession or not?!?! The outcome of this will probably mean less British doctors in our hospitals.

 

Same applies to other important professions of the future in Science and IT and what not.

That's about the ballpark I ended up in with my post A Levels training. No guaranteed job on the end of it either. No student loan either. It's harsh, but I've never moaned about it.

I fully support people doing a useful degree like medicine, law, accountancy, physics, chemisty, mathematics etc. It's people doing courses like art, transport management studies, mdeia studies, sociology with no idea what job they're hoping to get on the end of it that bug me. They're only doing it because uni seems like the next natural step and they're going with the flow.

Yes, Paul Wotton.

No, I was answering your question.

Who voted to bring back Wotton?

Wotton?

Bit of polage. I voted DH and RC, but I wouldn't be unhappy with any combination of the three TBH.

Of course there is a risk in not renewing Trident but I reckon it's worth taking. There are plenty of countries around the world who don't want/need nuclear weapons. If we stop sticking our nose in other countries business there is no reason why anyone would want to nuke us. Why Iran should concern us I do not know. Korea and China don't give a monkeys about us, and I'm pretty sure the US would act before their armies are massed in Calais.

 

Russia and the potential Arctic conflict is the only threat to us, and in that case we would just be a pawn in a new Cold war - better off out of it altogether.

20 years ago nobody in the UK gave a crap about Afghanistan. Infact at one point the US was flogging weapons to support what was basically the Taliban to fight against the Soviets. We can only make educated guesses as to the threats the UK might face in the future. I'd personally want to be prepared for the worst case scenario in order to prevent it. Remeber Neville Chamberlain, walking off the plane... "Peace in our time". I'm just guessing hypothetical enemies here, but there are plenty of people out there who don't like us. I know you're probably being tongue in cheek with the "armies massed in Calais" comment, but in 20 or 30 years technology will probably have moved on so far that you don't have to go places to start a war. Kim Jong Il could launce nuclear missiles from his back yard and have them land in a smiley face pattern on Southern England.

Just to reiterate. I'm not saying these things WILL happen. The threat of nuclear war doesn't keep me awake at night, but I do want to be prepared incase it becomes a threat one day. It seems like a high cost, but when the steaks are THAT high, it's worth taking IMO. It's like paying car insurance. I'd wager most middle aged people have been driving 20 years without an accident. I'd also wager most of them go the extra cash for fully comp. insurance, even though they haven't had any accidents and aren't expecting any in the future.

Most countries in the world don't have nuclear weapons. But ok, have it your way... I'm still sure we can find the extra few billion pounds to plug this hole(it is that important so we can compete with the countries you mentioned). I am not a fool by the way who thinks there should be no cuts. I'm also not an advocate of 'a few more students going to university'. I just want a decent level of people going getting a quality degree at an affordable price.

I'm fully in support of intelligent students going to good universities to do useful degrees. I left school 4 years ago and I'd say 90% of people in my year went to uni. The problem I found was it just seemed to be the norm. It was just assumed you would go to uni. All the teachers were completely obsessed with UCAS applications and getting everyone in somewhere. It didn't matter whether it was scratch-your-arse-ology or piece of wood studies, it was just taken for granted that all their students would go to uni. Some of them looked possitively disgusted when I told them I wasn't going, but ironically I ended up with a job when most of my year was barely half way through their course.

In some ways I don't think there should be any school help at all with uni applications. I think it should be purposely difficult to get in, so that only those who are really committed and passionate about a certain subject go to uni. I'd say a fair chunk of those at uni are just going with the flow.

Because it's not even a deterrent. We can't fire any part of our nuclear arsenal without American approval. And besides, nuclear fallout does not respect borders. If you consider for a moment what the deterrent actually means - actually loosing off a nuclear weapon and all its unimaginable consequences - it's really no option at all. For which we pay BILLIONS. The beneficiaries are not us, but the defence contractors who pay PR companies and politicians well to perpetuate such a morbidly stupid logic.

 

Set against that nonsense, give me more students any day.

How is nuclear war not a deterrent? You don't get it. Nobody wants to use nukes, that's exactly why you have them. To DETER people from attacking you. The way you're painting it, Britain needs nukes so we can go and blow the crap out of countries bigger than us. That's not the point at all. We need them so that if in 20 or 30 years Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran or otherwise decide they don't like us, we can put them off attacking. What if Iran develops nuclear warheads and we haven't got any? That's a terrible scenario.

Name two nuclear powers who have ever gone to war. Nukes are the main reason the cold war stayed cold. Both sides knew if there was an escallation in any conflict it could lead to worldwide annihalation. Not a risk either side wanted to take. The closest it ever got was the Cuban Missile Crisis and even then both sides were desperate for an excuse to back down, without losing face.

I remember the promises before the election, the reason millions voted... especially students. Well, I think the Lib Dems just successfully destroyed one of the key elements of their core vote.

 

I know this is a coalition, so compromise is not only necessary, but inevitable. This, however, is not compromise. It is the bulldozing of everything the Liberal Democrats stood for, believed in and wanted.

 

I know we are in hard times, but it is in these hard times we should be making sure our higher education system is affordable as well as able to compete with the best in world. Not enough funding? How about cut trident... there's £5bn straight away each and every year. This is the end of affordable higher education.

 

My parties views are no longer seem to reflect what is similar to my own. I've kept my renewing form for my membership until now, but I think it'll find its place nicely within my recycling bin.

 

 

I just sent that comment to the BBC, hope it gets published.

I don't get why people are so keen to cut trident. It's THE deterant. If someone like Russia or China decided they don't like us, 90 F2 Typhoons isn't going to keep them out. I know it's a paranoid view on the world, but we need a deterant incase the worst case scenarios unfold. I certainly wouldn't chuck it away so a few a few more students can go to uni.

hey Geneva i haven't seen that passion since you played in the Forum match.....I still can see you laughing your socks off as i returned to my seat at the request of the ref. Lol

What's it like to experience 'laughing your arse off' in full surround sound?

Thankfully, he created space for and assists for Beattie's goals and got us to the Cup Final despite your wayward assessment...

He got 4 assists in the cup final. I know he made a decent contribution and I certainly wouldn't agree with Gemmel's assesment, but I'd have a fully fit Delgado, Pahars, Phillips, Jones, Camara or Crouch ahead of him any day.

And yet still plying his trade in a team he helped to promote. Blackpool - TWO leagues above us....

 

And as for Lambert, he isn't suited to this team any more... sad but true.

So is Delap. Irrespective of where they are now, it was the right time for them to move on. They weren't doing it at Saints and needed a fresh start. You can rave all you want about Ormerod's work rate, and I did like him for it too, but the fact of the matter is he was always at the bottom of the pecking order. Behind Beattie, Delgado, Pahars, Camara, Phillips, Crouch, Jones and Fuller. He only really got into the team because of injuries to others.

I'm going in tomorrow to tell them they owe me a lie in, ffs.

That failure looked very similar to the one with Rosberg later on in the race, where the wheel seemed to just seperate. Any idea if the two were similar failures? I guess Suzuka must be fairly unique as the only circuit which puts an equal load on the tyres on both sides of the car (being a figure of 8 ).

I sort of collect Scalextric F1 cars. Yes, everyone have a good laugh about that. Never drive them at the mo because my flat is way to small to have a track, but one day I will. I've also saved the tickets from every Saints game I've ever been to. My ticket from the JPT game seems to have gone walkies, but I'm sure I've still got it somewhere. Definitely haven't thrown that one out.

Not sure if anyone else was hardcore enough like me to get up and watch it at 7am, having stayed up till 3am watching qualy. Anyway, by now you've seen the re-run if you were going to watch it. Thoughts?

It looks like a 3 horse race now, McLaren just don't have the pace to even match Red Bull, let alone make up a sizeable chunk of points over 3 races. Was gutted when Kubica retired. Not only because he's one of my favourite drivers, but having him in between the Red Bulls would really have thrown a spanner in the works. LOVED watching Kobayashi's race though. That man is just an overtaking machine. Would be great to see him in a competitive car one day.

P.S. Ponty. Martin Brundle is right, Petrov is the most expensive pay driver out there. With a decent driver in that seat you would probably be above Merc in the WDC.

I'm not sure 'epic' covers that...

 

 

All the aircraft are in Boeing house colours so I imagine these are all test flights, with test pilots, and specifically designed to push the aircraft to its limits? Still excellent landings obviously.

 

What's your crosswind limit on 737-800's Ari? That last one above (what looked like about 25-30 degree angle) must've been some breeze!

 

 

You're admin, split the thread.

Yeah, they're all test flights to determine crosswind performance. I think they were done at Edwards Air Force Base in California. Our X-wind limit is 33kts.

it f'ing is when you are at the treetops and do so, where do you stand on this by the way?

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How about this for Epic Fail:

and this for epic success

Anyway, we're going off topic.

I cant recall which disaster it was but some people who survived one disaster had a crash landing the day later!!! You are not immune, I had a engine fore on a 747 and emergency landing, had 2 aborted landings since, since here though |lol

Not really a big deal I'm afraid.

Arizona, do you know where you stand on this ? Lol

Sorry, say that again? I can't hear you sat all the way up there.