Midfield_General

Just so I’m clear, what does being a hipster actually mean in this context, according to the Saintsweb intelligentsia? I like the suggestion upthread that wearing jeans and/ or a suit, and owning a laptop, is at the dangerous cutting edge of innovation and should therefore be scorned and discarded as new-fangled witchcraft. Absolutely amazing

Oh and who was the genius responsible for appointing him? Jason Wilcox. So good luck to Man Utd if they think he's the man to sort out the absolute shit show they've got over there 🤣

I'm incredibly frustrated with him because any manager should be doing so much better than he is, given the comparative resources that he has available. But the real fault isn't with him, it's with the people who appointed him. When they appointed him, he had a single-minded approach that he said he would never change, which had some very clear weaknesses and which had delivered a very specific track record. And now - surprise! - he's playing exactly the same way, making exactly the same mistakes and displaying exactly the same weaknesses that he had in all his previous jobs, and it's delivering the same results. Maybe they thought he would learn and develop, and he hasn't. But the fact is that what he's doing here is exactly what he's done everywhere else, so if they are surprised by that, then that's on them. It's like getting a dog and then being stunned when it barks and sniffs other dogs' arseholes.

The question is - with Wilcox gone, who holds the inquest with Martin this morning about what the fuck that was and how he's going to fix it? Literally, who is managing the manager?

I now genuinely hope we don't somehow scrape our way to promotion through the playoffs. We are nowhere near ready, and with Martin in charge it would just be humiliating carnage, week in and week out. That was a complete capitulation tonight, and against better opposition that's how you lose by seven, eight, nine or worse, as we know all too well. We got into that horrible but familiar place where the opposition looked like they were going to score every single time they came forward. The players completely gave up - there was no fight, no running, no shape, no pride. And this from a team and manager who are meant to be playing for something. With that mentality from the players and that level of tactical ineptitude from the manager that we saw tonight, fuck getting into the Premier League to be cannon fodder. Fuck that good and proper.

Fabulous possession stats though Fucking wanker

Wow. What an absolute disgrace.

What this needs is five attackers being thrown on

They're bringing the semi-automated offside technology into the Prem next year. Although being the Premier League, rather than bringing it in at the beginning of a season, they're going to bring it in at some unspecified point once the season has already started, because of course they are.

Oh I know. I was there. I think that's why I'm feeling their pain. Always felt us and Cov were quite similar clubs, too.

That's one of the cruellest defeats I think I've ever seen

It's a tangential side point, and not a criticism in any way, but I can't help but read all your posts in the voice of Roger Mellie, The Man On The Telly.

Absolutely 100% nail on head. The other constantly recurring theme is being utterly incapable of responding to changes in approach from the other team/ manager. He can't read a game, at all. It's the same pattern pretty much every game. Plan A: Pass pass pass pass, take a slender lead. Plan B: Shit, the other manager has made a basic change at 65 mins, the shape of the game has changed and now we're not winning anymore. I know, I'll throw on five attackers! I know under-12s managers who'd be embarrassed at showing that level of 'thinking'.

Awful news for the lad. Sounds from Martin's comments like he was in a pretty dark place on discovering the extent of the injury. I'm sure the club will support him well in every respect. Hopefully the fans can live up to the word 'supporters' and send him good wishes too at what must be a horrible time for him. Wishing him all the best for a full and speedy recovery.

Great result and at last the dominant 90+ minute performance everyone had been waiting for. Took our chances brilliantly, and one silly defensive slip aside didn't really let them have a sniff all game. Gutted on a personal level for Baz, but personally think Macca (if indeed it turns out to be Macca who steps up) will be just fine as long as we don't ask him to play out too much. Still think it's going to turn out to be too little, too late in terms of the automatics, but keeps it interesting for sure and Leicester and Leeds in particular will be a little more uncomfortable tonight and will be feeling the pressure. Fair play to the team and manager on a great performance and turning what many thought would be a nerve-wracking night into a very comfortable win, and good on Che for finding his shooting boots - he took both his goals very well.

2/10

Zero. Whatever Leicester's result against Plymouth ends up being has absolutely no bearing on what we do, and the way that we defend means we won’t win enough games. It won’t even be close.

We’ll go in 1-0 up at half-time having dominated the ball, played them off the park and missed several gilt-edged opportunities to put the match to bed and get out of sight. They’ll come out for the second half and equalise against the run of play with their first shot of the match. People will ask if Baz should have done better for the goal. We’ll continue to play at walking pace, dominating the ball in the middle third of the pitch while they sit and comfortably soak it up with two banks of four. Nothing will happen until the 75th minute as Watford settle for a point. Russ will then make four subs, moving Adam Armstrong to CF and replacing the wide players with Mara and Sully. None of them will do anything and then we’ll get done 2-1 in the 95th minute by Watford’s second shot on target*. People will ask if Baz should have done better for the goal. In his post-match interview Russ will say we deserved to win but he’s pleased with how we played and we showed great bravery and we now really really have to win all our remaining games and oh god shoot me (*a scuffer from Wesley Hoedt)

Is he any good with his feet? Genuine question as I haven't seen much of Rotherham this year. Given his unwavering commitment to playing out, Martin would obviously only ever countenance playing a keeper who can receive, control and pass the ball well under pressure. Which for all his many, many other faults, Baz is pretty good at.

Not sure it's fair to say he's been completely frozen out - he played against Blackburn on Saturday

This twat of a ref is determined to send someone off

Will this be the shittest hat-trick in history?

Che! 2-0

That's interesting... can you elaborate or summarise what the players said at all, without getting into trouble?

Old Firm derby is an absolute banger - now 3-3 going into injury time