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It's easy - I managed it. Go into network and try and sign in and then it'll ask for a new password. You can't use your old one.

I wouldn't want us to sign the ****.

I've never really got this so called rivalry. Surely Palace have a London rival.

And both these situations aren't much different to what we did to Mau Mau "terrorists" in colonial Kenya post WW2.

You need to change your password.

Good. He's a knob. He acted like a right idiot when he realised that he was going to lose the AV vote.

I thought I was good, but have discovered you can't play 3 click online and have to use the bloody waggly thing. It's a good job I didn't have a mic because I spent the whole time swearing at my friends from the American colonies.

No but i'll whoop your ass at masters pga 12.

I didn't know there was a computor geeks forum too.

How long is this going to take?

I'm more concerned about building a team capable of getting out of the Championship. As for spending the collosal amounts to challenge for the top 4 european places - I can't see it happening. And i'm not sure i'd want it to happen if it meant ticket prices went through the roof and away games became only available for season ticket holders.

Reckon we'd be mid table at best with the current squad. Don't think we' go down though.

Also Norwich play football how it should be played. I don't want to take anything away from what NA has done at all, but at present we play L1 football which has it's moments but isn't good quick passing football. With the players we retain and those we bring in we are going to have to improve a lot in how we play the game. I'm very optimistic that we can rise to the challenge under NA.

Delldays I can't be arsed to argue with you - that's just my opinion of the majority of chairman because that's how football has become in recent years - there's that much money at stake that most chairman are impatient. That said i've supported NA from day 1 and I sincerely hope he does suceed in the very difficult task he's got. Make no mistake we're gonna need huge changes to the team to get out of the CCC so it ain't gonna be easy and unlike last season, when we were basically Pardews team, we're soon going to see lots of NA signings. He's done a good job getting us out of L1, but now the real work starts.

It's a football contract - it means nothing. Next season is going to be a massive test for NA as he'll need to get us playing one touch passing football. He has got a big job on his hands to build a team capable of getting out of the CCC - we certainly don't have that team now. This summer will be about bringing in 6 or 7 quality players imo and then bringing in more in January. NC will expect us to be challenging at the top of the CCC, as do I, and if NA hasn't got us in that position (or looking like we can get into that position under his stewardship) by Christmas then Nicole will become impatient fast.

The sooner expansion happens the better. The Liebherrs might not be around forever and it'd be nice to have something to show for having such a rich family as our owners. If we can get a ground with a capacity over 40,000 it'll mean that supply should exceed demand and therefore ticket prices are more likely to be kept down in the years ahead. At 32,000 we are about at capacity in the top flight which means price hikes could be introduced without leading to empty seats - not a good situation!

I think he will too. He's got his head screwed on and he likes to plan to the finest detail. If he can sort out a decent pre-season he will have done what no manager has been able to do for 20 odd years. God knows why we we've always been poor in this department, but there must be a reason and f/ck all this supertstitious b/llocks you hear from the sooth sayers (this is saints and we always do it the hard way zzzzzzzzzz) because it's b/llocks. What we don't want to do is another Switzerland jolly - it didn;t work F/ck sweden too - we did that one year in the prem and it didn't work so we kept doing it every year. It#s really simple. Copy what works. Look at the pre seasons a manager that knows what he's doing does and do what he does. Do what Fergie does. It's not rocket science. This where I think Ray Wilkins should be listened to.

I voted NO because it helps the Tories. That's it. I know AV is fairer, but I don't want fairer, I want the system that is least likely to deliver left wing power.

I don't think we have improved our passing game this season - imo we were a better footballing side at the back end of last season. I'm not knocking the club at all because we've done what had to be done to suceed in L1, but I cannot disagree with what SOG has said because he's right.

But will we? We never get pre season right hence we always start seasons badly. What makes you think this pre season will be different?

I sometimes pull FF's leg (because he bites) but you can't question his dedication and passion. And I think you're being very mean Manji in dragging up all this old sh/t at a time when we're all (including FF) over the moon about going up.

I understand what you're saying but i'm just against profiteering when it comes to mates and fellow saints fans. The world is full sheisters, but that doesn't mean you've got to be one yourself or agree with how they behave.

They have become an a good passing side. They have played positive football away from home. That's what we have GOT to do.

I just don't think we've been a good footballing side and when you see a lot of boring games where you're not entertained properly it doesn't feel like you've been watching a 2nd in the table side. In the championship there are some good teams and the way we play isn't up that level and imo we won't get the results like we have in L1 unless we step up a level in our passing game.

I think you're right. We are gonna have to spend big (in relative terms) and spend big early if we are to seriously hit the ground running with a view to automatic promotion. If the ambition is there from the Liebherr family I have complete faith in Nigel Adkins to deliver.