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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/voters-tell-brown-and-cameron-stop-lying-to-us-1941434.html

No, the Pollsters (those whose career is poltical polling) are predicting a Tory majority.

I can just picture corpy sitting in front of his PC itching to post, but not daring to until he's calculated he's left enough time for the return journey from London.

"If all the battles were on the pitch it'd be no problem for Pompey and their fantastic fans"

We shall see. They'll get their comeuppence when they have no cva next season.

The Independent on Sunday today carries a summary of the views of the people behind the many published opinion polls we are seeing at the moment. Although the polls are argued to be pointing to a hung Parliament, the pollsters do not seem to share that view: Andrew Hawkins, ComRes, pollster for the IoS “This is one election where a uniform national swing is less important than regional performance. There is a danger that the polls still overstate Labour, and history shows that the result will probably favour the Tories.” Prediction Con majority 32 Ben Page, Ipsos-MORI ”It is too close to call in terms of numbers of seats. The Tories are not doing well enough in the marginals to be certain of a majority. But the TV debates could make a decisive difference.” Prediction Con 25 seats short of overall majority – he has since clarified that this prediction is based on current polls. He also believes that the Conservatives will get a majority on polling day. Andrew Cooper, Populus “With certain caveats, I expect the Conservatives will get just under 40 per cent, Labour just over 30 per cent and the Lib Dems just over 20 per cent. I expect David Cameron to be PM with a majority of more than 10 but less than 50.” Prediction Con majority of 10+ Peter Kellner, YouGov “The Conservatives will have a small overall majority, and I think that the Lib Dems will do reasonably well. The public don’t want Gordon Brown but have shown no enthusiasm for David Cameron, who is heading for a narrow majority.” Prediction Con majority 20-30 Robert Salvoni, Harris Interactive “We believe that the 10-point Tory lead is soft; probably a reflection of disenchantment with Gordon Brown and Labour. Our polls show many more people who have voted Labour in the past are inclined to switch or not vote.” Prediction Con majority 2-10 Andy Morris, Angus Reid “The Conservatives will win, and I think they’ll end up with a small but workable majority, My view is the Tories will win the popular vote comfortably by about 8 to 10 per cent, with a disproportionate swing in the marginals.” Prediction Con majority 40-50 Martin Boon, ICM Research “I think the Conservatives will win by about eight to nine points. Of course, there’s no reliable guide to converting votes to seats. The real wild cards are the leaders’ debates – nobody knows how far they might influence people.” Prediction Con majority 20 Johnny Heald, Opinion Research Business “I do a lot of focus group work with target voters, and the desire to remove Gordon Brown is clearly stronger than the wish to elect the Tories. Cameron can also offer a bit of hope which people badly need.” Prediction Con majority 40+

bugger.

off for a smoke, IT WILL BE 1-1 when i return.

A last mnute equaliser and asudden death win for Spur on penalties would be very funny.

Things like this explain the Lib Dems fading in the opinion polls.

lol, redknapps twitching.

And you'll never concede to the fact that i'm right.

****s ****s ****s

What do you mean "that's not really going to happen" - ITS HAPPENING ALREADY!!! More people = more infrastructure to cope with the numbers.

That'd be nice.

So we keep importing more and more migrants - do you want to live in a country full to the brim with millions more houses and more and more roads?

Our frail economy is a blip, continued mass immigration will destroy this island.

So are we to keep importing wave upon wave of immigrants indefinitely? That's a great idea, let's make the M3 a 6 land highway, let's rip up te countryside and build new towns to house these people, let's build more and more hospitals and of course bring i more and more migrants as nurses. You attitude is the same as Labours and it doesn't look to the future. Mass immigration can't simply go on and on and on because the same issues will keep arising with each generation and all we'll ultmatelybe left with is a overcrowded island, polluted because of the sheer numbers, and the recipe for a cival war.

**** off pompey pompey **** off

As i said on another thread immigration has kept wages down and made many families better off living on benefits. Most immigrants are single and live in shared houses (so their expenses are less) and can afford to work for the minimum wages doing the jobs British people used to do.

No it isn't, because immigration has meant that more and more British families are better off living on benefits - they've looked at the menial jobs done by the single poles living in shared accomodation (long hours for the minimum wages) and thought sod that i'm better off living on benefits. So immigration has given to the employer with one hand, but taken from the state in the other hand.

It's a fallacy to say English people are workshy and Poles are not. The difference between us and them is that we won't work for a pittance and we expect to work reasonable hours. Mass immigration has meant that employers have been able to keep wages down and expect employees to work all hours god sends. In a recent programme hightlighting immigant workers in the Fens one farmer (pictured in his pallatial farmhouse) was complaining that English people won't work 6 days a week for the minimum wage. I say that were it not for the immigats he'd have to pay British people the market rate and not expect them to work unreasonably long hours. The BNP is very strong in places like Wisbech and you can't blame the locals for voting BNP because immigration has had a detrimental effect on them.

The Far Right is growing, and will continue to grow, because of the sheer number of migrants we're letting in. It's often said that they are needed because British people won't work for a pittance, but if migrants weren't allowed in employers would have to pay the market rate and British people would do the jobs. Also there is the argument that British people won't do hard work and this is simply wrong.

I take on board the difference, but still maintain that having this option wouldn't increase turnout - and that is the real issue.

There was no need for the sarcastic parting comment. The point i'm making is that imo it's a misconception that those who don't vote aren't doing so to make a point, the vast majority (again imo) that don't vote choose not to do so because they basically can't be arsed to use their legs and walk to the polling station.