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Presumably all Labour people...

I can't say i'm really interested, the point i made was that Berlosconi has a personality and that Gordon Brown doesn't.

Make your point and then i'll respond.

but at what price.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7423138/Europes-banks-brace-for-UK-debt-crisis.html

Do you believe this? I mean do you really really genuinely believe this?

ha ha ha, Brelosconi can get away with stuff like that because he's got a personality and it's not fake, Brown on the other hand has zero personality and any expression of fun or joviality would just come accross as being fake - a bit like "the smile".

Just make your point. I know you're a rampant leftie so get it off your chest.

I don't underatnd how anyone can consider Cameron would be a worse representative of this country internationally than Brown. The way Brown tried to be seen with Barrack Obama recently (and it was clear Obabma didn't want to be seen with Brown) is a testament to what a weak and embarrassing leader he is on the world stage. Likewise Brown was pictured the other day with Angela Merkel and frankly it was cringeworthy seeing him grinning like a Cheshire cat next to a woman who was clearly more authoritative than him. We're a G8 nation and as such we have clout and a British leader should be able to ooze authority. Obama does it, merkel does it, Sarkozy does it, FFS even Berlosconi does it! On the international stage Brown is as effectual as he is when engainging with people in general - he's simple unable to interact - he's a loner. On the other hand Cameron holds himself better and you just know he'd be able to interact with the likes of Obama and Merkel as an equal and that they would take him seriously. Labour have once again tried to make the camapaign a class war, but to me having a PM that has had a good eductaion isn't a bad thing.

Just to clarify the situation the Conservatives need to achieve a swing of around 7 per cent if they're to govern on their own - requiring a lead of something like 40 to 29 per cent over Labour. The most recent poll conducted (before Brown makes himself look a tit on the election trail and before he becomes even more unpopular on the TV debates) show: YouGov/Sun (5th Apr-6th Apr) CON 40%(-1), LAB 32%(+1), LDEM 17%(-1) Based on this it's on a knife edge and Tories may just sneak home with an overall majority.

I cringed when Browns cronies talked about giving us a referendum on constitutional reform. This is the same party that promised us a vote on the European Constitution yet renaged on their promise when they realised they wouldn't get the result they wanted.

I'm surprised there's not been a thread started already to mark Brown calling an election for the 6th of May. Yesterday was an interesting day with Brown wanting to portray himself as a team player because Mandelson has evidently advised him that nobody likes him (lol) and David Cameron engaging with the press and the public on a one to one basis because many of his cabinet colleagues aren't good for PR - i notice how Osbourne has been dropped as a face already. Meanwhile the Liberals leader (his name once again escapes me) had rolled out Vince Cable as the man he wants to be seen with and i think they'll do quite in terms of popularity but don't envisage this translating to votes in the marginals where the choice is do you want another 5 years of Brown or not. Based on the first day i'd put Camerons campaign as the best - he's comfortable talking to people and the press, likewise the Liberals come accross well and engage well with the media and the public, but poor old Gordon Brown - he's really not a peoples person. The way he ignored every question from the media was a massive own goal and the more he continues with this isolated and remote approach the more the general public will see him as a loner and not fit to govern. I can see the gap widening between the Tories and Labour over the coming weeks the more people see of Brown. poor old mandys got his work cut out in spinning Brown as something he clearly isn't.

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this. time to stop dreaming.

a strong rumour that RL may been arrested and charged with GBH!

Rupert Lowe???!!!

Oldham corner... cleared Oldham punt it long cleared Oldham throw cleared Huddersfield go long 2-0 game over.

FFS, Oldham player clear on goal and slices it

Oldham down to 10 men.

Oldham are enjoying most of the play, but they don't seem to be threatening much.

nah, stil 1-0. It's difficult to judge how exciting the game is because of the monotone northern accent.

Switch to the Oldham commentary. Oldham uv sturted where they left off from fust half.

If things stay as they are huddersfield will be on 68 points with 6 to play. I feel the most we can get is 74 points so it's not looking good for us.

h/t. jammy bastards.:mad:

FFS 1-0 Hudderfield.

Squueky " Trottman not comfortable on the ball and can't pass the ball from the back"