Unbelievable Jeff

Really, we're going to go down this road with the weird gaffe's that Boris has made in his life? Not sure anyone is saying that Hunt is any good BTW - this members vote is like saying "I'd rather have Gonorrhea than the clap".

There was nothing to stop them forming an alliance yesterday, or the day before, or the day before that, or at any time during the last two weeks. You can form an alliance at any part of the process. Do you agree with that? I have actually put a process flow together for you if that will help you understand as either you're willfully misinterpreting what is being said, or it's your senility playing up again.

What's the difference between the Tariffs with an FTA and the trade terms under the WA?

Yeah, we'll just have to pay a lot of money for Free Trade access, that's all. But we all knew that. I would probably say we will pay less during the transition period for our free trade than in future.

So, and as I asked originally in post 554, what is the difference between a FTA and the WA trade deal we'll have in place during the transition period. I'm talking just the trade part - so the tariffs etc.

What are you on about - why do they need a majority? They just need to be in the last 2, to take it through to the Membership vote. If between the 4 candidate vote, and the 3 candidate vote, one candidate drops out (or forms an alliance with the other where he can no longer be voted for), then the 3 candidate vote won't take place and it would go straight to the membership vote. I'm really not sure how I can try to get you to understand this? And yes, Hunt does have my vote.

Absolutely it's necessary, but I wouldn't say it's anything other than a ******** way of doing it. Unfortunately, with technology as it is, it is the only current option. That's the issue with Brexit being completely at odds with the GFA.

OK, so what is so bad about being tied into that treaty until we've agreed a trade agreement? What would it mean for the UK?

Mate, if I'm going to be taking advice, I certainly wouldn't be taking it from a racist, anti-semite like yourself. Can you please point out where I said the alliance would beat Boris? Ta love.

Apart from the backstop, which we've all agreed, is ********, including Shurlock, what are the other detrimental aspects of the WA?

It would or wouldn't have worked? We're talking about the process, it's not if they could beat Boris or not, as I've already said its unlikely. However, they'd have a better chance on a joint ticket, as it would have meant Gove in the final two.

What are you on about, stopping Boris - and I am Tory membership. I'll explain what I'm getting at though, if you like. 1. With 3 candidates remaining, Gove and Hunt agree to join forces. 2. Hunt takes potential Chancellor role, with Gove as potential PM. 3. 6pm vote doesn't take place and they go straight to membership vote. Tell me why that doesn't work. Just because you've misunderstood, it doesn't mean I'm wrong. It was also mooted with Gove & Stewart before Stewart was knocked out. Now, are you going to actually explain the difference between a FTA and the WA trade deal? No, didn't think so.

Oh well, maybe I'll have to upgrade it at some point to a man's car then.

It looks like you don't have a very good read on people either then mate...but you're right, perhaps I need a new accountant. It's something I've flirted with but always seems such a pain. Or maybe I should have posted it somewhere like the Lounge, so more people could have seen it and possibly given advice, rather than the forum that's gets the least traffic on the whole site.

TBH, not had any decent feedback on either this site or the Contractor site, seems people aren't that good at answering questions about tax. Shame, as I only signed up to that forum to ask the question. Odd that you think that is a show off purchase - I wouldn't say that someone spending £30k on a car over 5 years is showing off - but hey, maybe it is to someone like you. I apologise if you felt I was showing off though, when I was just asking for advice - it certainly was never meant to come across in that way. What's wrong with having a Clio anyway?

I'm not saying they had a chance, I said it would be a bigger chance as they have Gove there, which I'm sure you'll agree. Gove was never going to get through tonight as the Boris supporters were going to create a Hunt swing.

It does seem you have an unhealthy obsession with kids TBH mate - every post you write to me seems to be about them. May want to get that looked at before it gets out of hand.

Hunt and Gove v Johnson would have more chance than just Hunt against Johnson in the membership vote, you plum. There wouldn't have been a vote this evening if they had joined forces.

What, by indiscriminately bombing civilian areas? Not sure you understand what the current state of play is in Iran if you think going in will make that better...but we all know you like to see babies dead anyway.

Should have joined forces...

Wrong, it's about winning those that are unsure - in politics it's about winning those votes in reach, not the staunch opposite ends.

Agree with the last sentence. Corbyn and his followers are enablers of this administration and of Brexit.

Why would the membership not vote for them - Boris refused to guarantee leaving on the 31st October, he is actually a pinky Tory who is pro-remain (outside of his opportunism). Why would the membership trust him? Gove and Hunt as a duo are eminently more competent and trustable than Bonking Boris, Gove has always been leave - oh, and I wouldn't be surprised if either Hunt of Gove have something on Boris that could make him quit before the vote is ratified. Not that it matters, if Boris looks like he's taking us out on WTO terms, he'll be out on his ear anyway and Corbyn will be in charge.

Boris votes - 157 Remaining votes - 156 And I'm not saying they'll win - but it's the only way they'll get close. Not sure what I'm not getting here.

No, of course I'm not, I'm suggesting Hunt will be a Deputy. Gove will be out later if they don't join forces, so it is in Gove's interest to do this. Gove and Hunt's Brexit strategy is the same, irregardless of remain/leave. You need to get out of this mindset and listen to the words.