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And if I’m Southampton I’m on the phone to Harvey Vales representatives first thing tomorrow morning saying ‘see, no squad number and new players being targeted in your position…come play here’. That rumour will be outed as nonsense pretty quickly this week so I’d be onto Vale ASAP.

Not sure it's a reliable source by the way. Anyway, he assisted the first goal against us 2 weeks ago.

This is all fair and it's a game of opinions isn't it, I'm just trying to see it from the people inside the clubs view and take a wider look at it. His value to us right now is pretty big on paper in our minds as fans but taking a factual look at it, he's not in the team, when he has been, he's not scored enough (despite looking like he could/should) and long term wise he's not looking like much value to the club (in terms of goals or signing a new contract). I'm not convinced we'd need two strikers personally, one really good one would be fine. If the funds we got from Adams allowed us to get a better target rather than two decent ones I'd be okay with that. The new guy with Armstrong and Mara and Aribo (whether you like it or not, his versatility is a big reason why we signed him and he's played there before). But I'm well aware that is a huge "if". Oh and as for that Jacob Treswell tweet about Adams to Everton on loan, don't wet yourselves just yet, there's 4 caveats in the tweet alone and it also clearly says with a buy so sounds like we'd want any money guaranteed.

Let’s not rewrite history here with Adams. I like him, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our current best option as a striker but it’s not exactly a thriving pool to choose from. We’ve complained since the day he’s been here about his lack of goals. PL striker - yes but hardly prolific. There’s a reason we’ve all been desperately wanting a new striker. International striker - Yes but hardly a big pool to choose from and there’s many Scottish fans who’d prefer Championship striker Dykes over him. Signed for 15 million - Yes but with 2 years left on his contract his value is only going down now. Without signing a new contract, this is the best summer for us to sell value wise. I like the guy btw, and like I say, there’s a genuine debate to be had he’s our best striker right now but if he’s not signing a new contract, the manager doesn’t trust him and (this is the most important) we are signing a new striker then I’m not adverse to saying thank you and goodbye. Of course his value to us right now is important but in the wider context of a good striker at this level, he’s occasionally reaching those heights but nowhere near enough.

Point of the statement is to hammer home that the deal wont be done until the Colwill deal is done.

In fairness Cucurella has just signed a new contract, his underlying creation stats were very impressive and he is equally as versatile (just not in the same positions as KWP). 35m is about right for KWP and if he wants to go we should let it happen and back our set up to replace him accordingly. Value wise, KWP’s price is only going down after this summer unless he signs a new contract. If he doesn’t fancy it however then wonderful but I suspect, as most footballers do, he’ll back himself to make a success of it (if it’s a genuine offer).

Not enough praise for Moussa who was once again excellent and has probably been our best player in pre season.

We'll have a new full back option by the end of the week.

Southampton Stream Passes: Buy Now - Watford FC Unlikely to be streams I'd say but it's possible.

Nope. I'm sure MLG's post was well researched and he'll provide it shortly. Was just pointing out the stats of the closest possible example we could have of Ralph's selections at Saints.

FWIW 4 players who started last seasons friendly two weeks before the Everton game started the Everton game.

No chance. Club briefed their usual channels pretty early on in the summer that they had moved on from Broja. He’s clearly West Ham’s target now and has been pushing for it himself. The price is beyond already the 20m you’re talking about and if Chelsea wanted us to up the price then we’d be mentioned in the briefings to the press but we’re not. Colwill we’re clearly in for although I have a hunch we’ll lose out to Palace on that one mainly because Salisu is probably in the way here and he’ll get into the Palace team quicker but hopefully I’m wrong. I would keep an ear out for any Harvey Vale news though. Little loan deal might be good for everyone there.

They have literally told you it won't be at almost every opportunity. Old chap.

KWP versatility is what stands him out against many other full backs and will be a part of what gets him a big move, so I think the idea that Ralph has unsettled him is laughable. He’s literally settled him into the PL, improved him, added strings to his bow and let him flourish. But yeah, KWP probably walks around cursing him for the few weeks he didn’t play him at the start of last season and then making him play left back to get him back in the team. Dear god. If/when he leaves it could just be that it’s part of the business mode and a good move for all concerned. You’re all going to have to get used to that at some stage btw. Better start trying now.

Really? Bigger club, bigger platform and therefore a bigger ceiling. He'll back himself to be good enough to make the step up in 3 years at Chelsea, if it doesn't happen he'll be just as relevant as Tino, Colwill, Lampety etc etc and back himself to be good enough to get a similar move that they all did. if he stayed here and got himself in the first team in say 2 years? Okay he's made a name for himself a little earlier but he's also needing Chelsea or whoever to pay out much bigger money for him and he's just one of many kids in the world. He's got his move to the big club early and can make his move on his own terms and from within. Presuming he and his advisors believe in his ability and they're not just cashing in now, then I see it as a pretty ideal move and relatively risk free (injuries etc aside).

You’re the one lying about how much you’ve watched or you’re the one who seems to form and express opinions on something that you have watched only 30 minutes of. Either way, stop being weird.

Nope. You stated you were finding it difficult not having an opinion because it was being rammed down your throat. My advice was to stop engaging with it and you’ll find yourself not having an opinion. Stop clicking on this thread, stop typing out your opinion and stop clicking ‘reply’. You clearly have this level of self control because despite it being rammed down your throat you have only watched 30 minutes of it. Extend that self control to not having an opinion, you’ll feel better for it. Well done on all your coaching, playing and viewing achievements that nobody asked about by the way. If you could kindly stop ramming it down our throats though please, I’ll be forced to have an opinion otherwise, despite not giving a shit.

6 posts. 3 different days, you started and ended Sunday in the thread with posts in the morning and evening. So yeah, you keep coming back. For someone who has watched 30 minutes of the whole thing, you seem to have both avoided it being "rammed down your throat" and yet formed some pretty strong opinions. Maybe, just maybe, give it a miss, the games, the discussions, the viral clips, the BBC Womens Euro 22 section, the yank who isn't involved in the tournament. If you stop engaging in it, you'll have a lot less opinions, look a lot less silly in a thread specifically for it and feel a lot less sorry for people who don't really care for your concerns.

Intrigued to know why the continued speculation about this guy signing by the way? Has there been a change of mind since Broja said he's clear goodbye message and Saints briefed everyone they had said thank you and moved on?

Yeah the more I think about it Bertrand was just as big as a threat or maybe bigger. But his threat came because of who he had in the box as well. Not sure any of our strikers are particularly suited to attacking crosses really, especially not last season. Think they're all better at creating chances with the ball into their feet around the box. But like I say, good to have both options, especially if we sign a striker with a different profile.

You might lose a threat of a cross but it opens up the threat of a shot. KWP cutting inside was a bigger threat than any left back we’ve had in a while whipping in crosses, especially when none of our strikers are particularly adept at attacking crosses. He’s also got the ability to dictate play from the inside too. Nice to have the option to change it up depending on the opposition.

They have a fair few attacking midfielders like Aribo in fairness. Not sure it's a position they need to strengthen.

Well done Einstein, they've only been telling you this since the start of last season. Keep your tweets to Twitter, you don't need to tell us this.

Aribo is good, always been a fan and always believed he'd be suitable in the 2 behind the strikers for us. He has the qualities to do that role, power, good feet, direct. He'll be in the PL soon somewhere.

I have absolutely no issue is losing 16 year olds if they’re being offered that kind of money as a basic salary. Assuming he’s not on the verge of the first team, if we competed with that it would set a bad precedent. Edit: Pretty sure there is a cap on wages at 16 actually so would assume that offer is from when they are 17.