bridge too far

[/quote Even if the links ESB have posted are true... THEY MAKE A CUP OF TEA AND GIVE OUT MICROWAVE MEALS!!! Their pay is relative to the very basic job they do... a glorified waitress! If they have perks and bonuses and they are removed... TOUGH SH!T!!!!!! Read the link AGAIN - read page 2 - see what is required of cabin crew. Remember this next time you fly - and be thankful that there are trained crew members available to deal with all sorts of life threatening emergencies.

You don't need to go onto the pitch for me to call you names My opinion has absolutely nothing to do with flying but with the rights of workers to take legitimate action - as the appeal judge ruled.

ESB - banging, brick walls and heads spring to mind. I've posted the Unite link twice now but those on here with tunnel vision will only ever believe the ridiculous hype posted by the right-wing press. They'll moan about the 'short working week' without taking into consideration the fact that crews fly across time zones and, for safety's sake, have to have longer to recover.

eyes

Read the link - learn the other side of the story - the side you won't see printed in the 'popular' press. http://www.unitetheunion.com/pdf/022-BA%20Cabin%20Crew%20disputev5.pdf

zebra

Here's some info about CSD salaries. They start at £28K rising to £36K after 20 years' service. http://www.unitetheunion.com/pdf/022-BA%20Cabin%20Crew%20disputev5.pdf I think you're right that agreement had been reached about the reduction in the number of cabin crew. In fact it's worth reading the whole link. OK it's the Union's media briefing but it goes a long way to counter the media briefing Mr Walsh undertakes on as regular a basis.

sight

But I do have friends who fly, Stu. What I care about is the attempt by BA to try to use the courts to deny workers their legitimate rights and to bully workers by 'renegotiating' (without actually negotiating at all) their pay and conditions.

fat

You've asked me this before, Stu and I've replied before that it's a hypothetical question because, as a matter of principle, we don't fly.

tissue

Sorry - I don't understand what you mean. If WW hadn't put the kibosh on the deal that had been agreed, the strikes wouldn't have gone ahead.

A settlement HAD been agreed TDD. Walsh's head-in-the-sand attitude is costing the company far, far more.

swineherd

Looking back via Google, it would appear that existing crew average £22K but new entrants start on £14K.

I understood that the Union and the management team had, in fact, agreed on cost-cutting measures. I also understood that the Unions had suggested further cost-cutting measures. The deal was all but done until Mr Walsh decided to impose his own views, over the head of his management team. Maybe Mr Walsh, being aware of the company's financial state, has been looking for a deflection from his own performance? Just a thought....

slippers

It's my birthday the next day. I hope I will have received the present of my dreams

fetch

skates

Well said DSM! I (finally after years of meaning to) went last year. Inspirational. I've been suggesting too that, for their own edification and education, posters read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists.

holiday makers ------------------- Are you watching Country File too St L or is that just a coincidence?

Seasiders

I asked a question - because I didn't know how it is these days (hence my use of the phrase 'it always used to be the case' - this implies 'some time ago'). What IS your problem Stu? Is there anyone in the world you're not angry with? You could get help you know......