Farmer Saint

The Premier League is hardly competitive - especially when you add PSR to the mix which was brought in to quell any remaining competition.

To be fair I'd prefer you take out your anger on here rather than on anyone close to you, but I think you need to get to the root of where your anger comes from. I'm here to listen if you do want to talk.

It wasn't my word! Danjo called him bang average - talk to him.

No, average is bottom of Championship/top of League 1. He's an average football manager, he's a poor PL manager. Average also wasn't my word, it was the word of @danjosaint

He was being compared to a bunch of fascists - do you not see that as being a little bit extreme? I think if people genuinely "hate" Martin, they need to go take a nice walk and put what it in some perspective. You don't have to hate him, you can just let it go. The World is an amazing place if you let it be.

Being nice doesn't mean they get to play us more often.

I think if people class him alongside them, then it's the fans who have a problem rather than Martin.

It's not the averageness - there are loads of average managers around that I would assume you don't hate, so why do you hate him so much? Hate is a very extreme reaction to someone you don't actually know - you're creating a lot of assumptions on his day to day behaviour to have those sorts of feelings.

It's fucking weird - I think he comes across as a good bloke - he seems to care about his players and by all accounts players seem to absolutely love him. Considering they are the people that tend to spend the most time with him, I'm inclined to think they're correct.

But, but, but he's a vegan with a beard...

TBF, their opinion is probably more valued than the freaks we have on this forum.

Bournemouth was a shitshow, yeah. As I've said multiple times he should go, but it doesn't mean we have to criticise for the sake of it - 1-0 at City is a good result for 90% of teams.

But it wasn't funny?

Don't disagree. I think he needs to go as he's alienated too many people, but it's a decent enough result.

Ah, ok, cool, cos there's been loads of comments about the fact that this is the worst result we could have etc. Brentford and Forest we were shite, but it was early in the season. Ipswich was unlucky but shit defending from a corner, and Leicester we were down to 10 men and got arse-raped by the ref.

I'm not sure that's the attitude people have - you've done some quite incredible gymnastics to get to that conclusion.

It's where we were predicted to finish by everyone - papers, bookies, OPTA - and yet we have fans annoyed that we lost 1-0 at possibly the best team in the World. Some of our fans are utter knob heads.

We gave City a much harder game - Ipswich lost 4-1.

Be a hell of a commute for a part time job!

Yeah, but we all expected to be relegated before the season started anyway - we were favourites. If that's your attitude I guess we may as well not play the remaining games.

Ipswich are pretty shit - is McKenna as good a Manager as everyone thought? They were better than us last season, spent a lot of money and have looked very poor in general. Not sure he's a PL standard manager either.

I bet you £10k they won't.

Calling it here - we'll beat Everton.