Sheaf Saint

The whole point of any punishment is to set a deterrent to try and prevent the transgression happening again. Given the punishment the club has already received, and the huge media coverage of it all, I think we can safely say the chances of Tonda even considering doing this again anytime soon are slim to none. Therefore, if the FA do decide to hit him with a lengthy ban then it will be solely out of petty vindictiveness rather than a considered measure to educate and correct the behaviour. Hopefully we've learned from the debacle of the EFL investigation and will be in a better position to push back against any excessive measures. A lengthy ban for Tonda wouldn't just punish him, but would have a huge negative impact on the entire club, who have already been severely punished as a whole by the EFL. I hope we've still got Lord Pannick retained to argue that point if necessary.

Or just maybe it's no more complicated or sinister than the FA have all been away living it large on expense accounts in the US. I don't think it's a coincidence that this has come out now, just 3 days after the world cup finished.

Only if they re-invest it wisely. Their track record of buying expensive flops over recent years is quite something.

Just been to see The Odyssey. I've been eagerly anticipating this ever since I first read that Christopher Nolan was making it, and it's every bit as good as I hoped it would be.

Everyone seems to know the score, they've seen it all before. They just know, they're so sure, that England's gonna throw it away, gonna blow it away... And they'd be right 🤣

We're gonna chuck this away aren't we.

Merci beaucoup.

Heading out to the tip early on a Saturday morning to avoid the queues 😕

If the team has gone too passive after taking a lead, then it is the manager's job to identify that and make the right subs and tactical tweaks to overcome it. He utterly failed to do that and his subs made our shape and organisation into a disjointed mess that only exacerbated the problem. That is 100% on Tuchel.

If only he'd taken Captain Shoe-horn. Looking at Tuchel's subs last night, it was a game that was crying out for his versatility and leadership.

Fuck off Tuchel. Just fuck the fuck off you spineless prick.

I'd snap your hand off for that.

I'm not defending this person or endorsing what they said (and have since doubled down on), because it was extremely crass and unnecessary. However, on the general subject of tolerance that you raise, it brings to mind Karl Popper's paradox of tolerance, and the notion that unlimited tolerance should not be extended to those who are themselves intolerant. To do so only provides greater freedom for people to promote intolerant ideologies. It's fair to say that many of the views that Widdecombe held could be considered intolerant. But those views should be opposed through reasoned argument and political discourse, rather than snidey personal attacks on someone who has been brutally murdered, and it's unfair to tar the entire 'tolerant left' with the same brush as this particularly hateful person.

We'll probably end up playing them anyway in the 3rd place playoff.