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I'm not defending this person or endorsing what they said (and have since doubled down on), because it was extremely crass and unnecessary. However, on the general subject of tolerance that you raise, it brings to mind Karl Popper's paradox of tolerance, and the notion that unlimited tolerance should not be extended to those who are themselves intolerant. To do so only provides greater freedom for people to promote intolerant ideologies. It's fair to say that many of the views that Widdecombe held could be considered intolerant. But those views should be opposed through reasoned argument and political discourse, rather than snidey personal attacks on someone who has been brutally murdered, and it's unfair to tar the entire 'tolerant left' with the same brush as this particularly hateful person.

We'll probably end up playing them anyway in the 3rd place playoff.

It should have been overturned because of the handball before the contact.

Nobody has said it's excusable. John B's post was simply pointing out that her outspoken views on certain subjects just increase the likelihood that her murder was politically motivated. He wasn't saying it was justified. Personally, I found her pretty objectionable and disagreed with her about most things. Her "Let my people go" speech in the EU parliament was one of the most desperately pathetic things I think I've ever seen from a British politician. But I'm still absolutely appalled by her murder and would never wish that on anyone.

Yeah I use it a lot. Great app.

Just trying to think - when was the last time we played Argentina at a WC? Was it when Becks scored the penalty conceded by Poch in the group stages in 2002?

Just watched the highlights of Argentina v Switzerland. Looks like the Argies didn't really create anything after going 1-0 up, and can be thankful for the red card otherwise the Swiss might well have beaten them.

It was a far from perfect performance, but I thought we were worthy winners in the end. Tuchel getting very annoyed with the interviewer!

That was fucking brilliant from Spence.

Guess he's just burned himself out.

Wasn't clear and obvious. Yeah he moved his leg over to protect the ball, but he's allowed to do that and he was still tripped. Should have stuck with the on-field decision.

And then took a very faint touch off a Norway player before going out.

So the goal gets overturned and the corner is to be retaken. But it shouldn't have been a corner in the first place because the ball came off a Norway player last and it wasn't checked.

This aged well 😉