Sheaf Saint

Quite. He might have decent technical ability and a good engine, but he was very much one of the 'son-in-law' type players that made us such a pushover for many years. And despite being our captain, I'm struggling to remember when/if I ever saw him show any kind of leadership at all. If we're going to challenge for promotion next season with this siege mentality that people keep referring to in the aftermath of Spygate, we're gonna need some proper shithouse players, and JWP is about as far towards the opposite side of that scale as it's possible to be. It's a no from me.

I've always loved camping, but I'm in my 50s now and I think these days I'm more in love with the idea of it rather than the reality. The saddest thing about it for me now though is that you used to be able to just stick your tent and sleeping bag in the back of the car and bugger off for the weekend knowing that you'd be guaranteed to find a site with space. But since lockdown, staycations etc... it's become so much more popular that you always have to book up in advance these days, which takes away the whole spontaneous aspect to it. Unless you go to Scotland or the Isle of Man, that is. You're basically allowed to camp anywhere there, as long as you're not on private land.

Oh, I was hoping this thread was going to be about the brilliant Julia Davis comedy on Sky. Shame.

Yeah I suppose. That or politics.

That's my point. We can't go to CAS to get the decision overturned. But I don't see how they can stop us from taking legal action to claim damages over their botched process.

There seems to be a lot of heart over head going on with this topic (who'd have guessed football fans could be passionate and irrational, eh!) As much as I would like to keep him on for his ability, his position is simply untenable given everything that came out of the hearing. It's not so much the fact that he was breaking rules. It's more that he wasn't clever enough to do it without getting caught, and that cost the club the chance of promotion. There's no way he could possibly survive that in any other industry.

Surely that only relates to the sanction itself though, right? We're out and Hull got promoted, and there is not a chance in hell of that being overturned now. So it would be pointless anyway. But if we've got a genuine grievance with the way this whole episode has been handled by the EFL, and it certainly appears that we do, then surely it is not for them to dictate to us if we can or cannot launch legal proceedings against them.

Yeah because bringing back former players has really proven to be a hugely successful strategy over the last few years hasn't it.

"And I'd have got away with it if it wasn't for you meddling Saintswebbers!"

It begs the question... Three steps ahead of who? 🤨

I'd love to believe this, just like I really wanted to believe that they were keeping a dignified silence in the lead up to the hearing and had an ace up their sleeve to play. Sadly, as has been pointed out many times of the last few weeks, wherever SR are concerned you should always lean heavily towards incompetence as the explanation. Because it always turns out the be right one. Every. Single. Time.

This is a very interesting point. They couldn't expel us from a competition that we had already been knocked out of, neither could they apply a points deduction based on their own insistence that the playoffs is a separate competition. So the only choice would have been a fine. The decision on our punishment shouldn't have rested on the result of a tie that, as everyone acknowledges, was not influenced by the rule breaking.

All day drinking on a sweltering hot bank holiday is never a good idea.

"Greatest era in our history"

Is this a piss take or did he genuinely post that?