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No wonder football grounds are like morgues nowadays. Can't believe people find that acceptable.

Jesus call yourself football fans and you see nothing wrong with that last paragraph.

He could be this women from Boro Unbelievable! :eek: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A47757388 http://fansonline.net/middlesbrough/mb/view.php?id=980170

another good performance from Dyer today on TV agaisnt a premiership team. Why we let him go and kept BWP is quite stupid

Now i could be wrong, but the land SMS is on can only ever be used as industrial due to the gas works. Which means that land will not be worth £23m, so the title deed holder will want the club to remain and pay off the debt.

The police are reading you say We paid for your hats We paid for your haaaats What a waste of council tax we paid for your hats Two Hats Two Hats Two Hats

Bin JP and make killer the manager, his playing days are finished anyhow & he can;t do any worse than the current setup

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Football-In-Recession-Big-Clubs-Could-Go-Bust-In-Credit-Crunch-Doncaster-Rovers-John-Ryan/Article/200901315204952?lpos=Business_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15204952_Football_In_Recession%3A_Big_Clubs_Could_Go_Bust_In_Credit_Crunch%2C_Doncaster_Rovers_John_Ryan A respected Championship football club owner believes there may be "some big casualties" in the game as the credit crunch bites. Doncaster Rovers' John Ryan (L) celebrating his team's Coca Cola League 1 Playoff Final win in May, 2008 Rovers boss John Ryan (L) celebrating his team's playoff final win in May Successful businessman John Ryan, who has hauled Doncaster Rovers from non-league to Championship, told Sky News: "I think the cold wind of recession has hit virtually every club." Ryan has poured an estimated £5m of his own money into Doncaster Rovers during the club's climb to the second flight of English football. But he knows the time has come for clubs like his to survive financially without help from wealthy benefactors. I mean, who knows? But when Woolworths can go bust, after 99 years in business, who knows? "I have a passion for my hometown club, Doncaster Rovers," said Ryan, who has owned the club for 11 years. "I said I wanted to do it when I was 20, so that was a calling for me really. But, if it was a business decision, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole." His comments come midway through a January transfer window when, Manchester City apart, a certain reality is dawning. "In the next few months, you might see some big casualties," said Ryan. Rovers is run without debt, but plenty of others are not, and a number in the Championship - according to Ryan - could call in the administrators at any time. "Anyone that's got massive debt is going to find the bank on their back, giving them a real hard time, possibly putting their interest rates up. "And that's going to put even more pressure on them, so it's not good times." Rovers, currently struggling in the Championship, have seen their wage bill rise from £800,000 to £5m - almost 60% of the club's annual turnover - in just over four years. The club has been clever enough to negotiate players' contracts so relegation will mean pay cuts - and four of the clubs' players are on £100,000 bonuses to stay up. "I think football's been in recession for a long time," said Ryan. "But it's been buoyed up by various benefactors that have bridged the gap between profit and loss. "And now a lot of those benefactors probably are finding times a lot tougher." Recession means that clubs will find it more difficult to get companies to keep advertising with them or take executive boxes. But Ryan believes, in the long term, recession could prove to be football's saviour. "In a strange way, it might bring it back to reality. I think that's the problem with football, it lives in this fantasy world."

gawd no but every week he normally finds something to be positive about, today he's come home all doom and gloom. aint good for the old guys heart i tell thee

Spoke to dad after the match today, he's adamant that in the next 7 days JP will be gone and the club will file for admin, resulting in a now inevitable relegation to League 1. First time i've ever seen him not find a positive from a situation in my 30 years. In short **** of Rupes, your making me dad sad now.

I do not believe that with the debt cleared Saints could not be a self sufficent club, the only problem would be the fans expectations. With interest and the divi's paid to shareholders gone, that would free up a good wedge of cash for the football club to use. 20,000 adults through the gate at £20 a ticket raises £9.2m revenue, take 50% of that as wage budget for playing & coaching staff £4.6m, which can't be far off an acceptable budget for the championship Obviously crude as adult ticket prices are higher and has not taken into account corporate packages, Tv revenue, sponsorship revenue. But it has to be possible to run a club on a sensible budget in the championship without using massive debts or having a billionaire sugar daddy.

ok for paying off the debt with £30m, i guess i should have said invest £30m in the club coffers

havent i read somewhere that crouch said he'd give his away if someone came in to clear the debts.

But without owning lowe would still be in the box seat.

I'd do it, but i'm not a lifelong fan, just have a soft spot for saints. Couldn't be any worse than that muppet though

So how much money would you be happy to have. So lets say on Friday your the only winner of the Euromillions draw at £50m £10m to buy up shares and the costs involved in taking over the club £30m to pay down the current £29m of debt & £1m to put towards a couple of free entry matches, for fans who have been to 5 or more home games this year. Leaves £10m in your pocket Rekon i could live on £10m, not so sure about the wife though

well i'm hardly going to jump around like a ****, but all those that sit around our seats no i'm a united fan anyway.

been living and working in hampshire for last 3 years, wanted someone to go watch on a saturday and always loved to watch Le Tiss

I'm a united fan and will be sat in the home stands, like i have done on many occasions over the last 3 years. I've prob seen more Saints matches this year than a lot of lifelong saints fans. Looking forward to the game and i truley believe that anything can happen in the FA Cup. Stranger things have happend than saints beating united tomorrow

Just had a look on AIM the club's share capital is currently £6.1m If 5103 people invested £100 a month into a Supporters trust, fans would own all Saints Shares in 12months I realise that's simplistic, but shows that it is acheivable and realistic to believe that fans could own SFC within the next 5-10 years if not sooner. Especially if you coud get Leon to hand over his Proxy as well

Why bother with rights issue. Setup something similar to MUST and as a collective group invest in shares, the long term aim being fan ownership of the club. http://www.joinmust.org With fans having the option of buying shares through a Saints Supporters Trust it would not take too long before fans held a sizeable chunk of the club.

United's team will prob line up as per the carling cup GK - Foster RB - Rafael Da Silva LB - John O'Shea CB - Neville CB - Jon Evans MC - Possebon MC - Gibson MC - Scholes RW - Nani LW - Giggs ST - Tevez Subs Fedinand Anderson Rooney Ronaldo Berbatov

only way to turn a nice profit from the game really is to draw it. 76000 at old trafford generates near on £3m in gate reciepts i seem to remember reading.

Yup got out of a minbus with his wife and kids as far as i know and was jumped by some local thugs, i won't call the saints fans as thugs is all they are. Someone knows who done it, shame no ones had the balls to stand up and shop em.

I'm a united supporter first and foremost as i've said on here before. But now that I'm living near to Southampton i've used the club for the last two years as my Saturday football fix whenever possible, i have a ticket for the sheff wed match this weekend coming. Posts like that dicks above with that song have made me think i might not come again, please tell me that's not the majority feeling and this song will not get any sort of airing.