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Did I say it was impartial?

The front page of the paper?You do know what a headline is - you do know how a newspaper works?

Wrong again Les Read post 219 "Provide a link - for all I know it's a quote from comment is free or a batty columnist". Show me where the paper -not bloggers on CIF or individual opinion pieces- the paper as a whole has decided to run a similarly provocative frontpage or campaign? Last time you tried in vain to help out jamie, you had a near meltdown Watch yourself, little kipper.

you're struggling. It's an individual politician's point of view - party politics is partisan, were you born yesterday? You can agree with his point of view or readily dismiss it - either way it's not a lie. Perhaps you can help Jamie out and provide that newspaper headline.

Provide a link - for all I know it's a quote from comment is free or a batty columnist. "all sorts going about this sort of stuff and that tone" - this is just waffle - if there's all sorts going about, it should be pîśś-easy to substantiate, so provide the links. I'll happily condemn it. Still waiting for that frontpage headline.

So nothing of the sort then. Still interested to see how the story is reported and the relevant attributions are made. Link?

Frontpage headline? Source? Or are you confusing someone's column, assuming it even exists. Over to you pal and I'll be happy to condemn it. Otherwise I'll conclude -as if I needed further proof- you're full of s**t.

Not at all. It seems that you're the only who gets his knickers in a twist over the namecalling yet are as guilty as anyone of doing it.

Is Blackbridge the advisory company run by the scouse kid who makes Tony Lynam look like a global mover and shaker?

You do demonstrate a stunning lack of self-awareness, Les. In same breath, bemoaning the little kipper moniker, then referring to others as lefties.

Where did you go? Margate - I hear that's very popular among your kind Les. It was also Passover, though I doubt that explains it You seemed very unsteady and overexcited on the other thread, as others pointed out. Hopefully the break has done you some good and there won't be anymore episodes. No, I don't think the election fundamentally strengthens May's hand with the EU to the extent that you claim: the idea that the UK would change its mind during negotiations is utterly fanciful, the chances of it happening so remote that I doubt it would have been the EU's baseline position or seen as providing much leverage. Either way, the EU's position is going to be exactly the same. Hopefully May will also be more forthcoming about trade-offs this election -she's hinted at a transitional or implementation period during which the UK would comply with Freedom of Movement among other things. Perhaps she'll be explicit about this and provide other details. Or maybe she'll maintain the nice little fiction than the UK can cherrypick its preferred deal that you and other kippers have so innocently lapped up.

Welcome back Les. Hope you're feeling more steady and calm than before. Are you going to vote Tory this time?

Are those direct quotes?

Agree with most of this analysis but (3) is still anyone's guess and the big wildcard. She's heading for a massive showdown in the future if it is the case since the press and rabid backbenchers are drawing virtually the opposite conclusion.

This is different from my original point, before our intrepid, overexcited Sour Mash went off piste. As to your point, do I think the Mail manipulates Tories to vote Tory? Of course not. Do I think the Mail manipulates undecideds? I have no idea and if anything I'm sceptical it does have such influence. Do I think the the Mail makes political debate more polarised and shrill, much harder for different sides to reach agreement on some issues? Yes.

That's the one. Also the one where we allowed them to score from a counterattack from a bungled corner.

Nope - the original post was whether parts of the press would be focussing only on Brexit or on wider issues. Nothing to do with press manipulation or Tory voters voting Tory, except the bits made up in your head, little fella

These are old arguments. The difference is that whereas the separation in a grammar school system is virtually set in stone at age 11, streaming in a comp etc is more fluid. In principle, streaming can respond flexibly to year-to-year changes in educational performance and development. Likewise even with streaming, pupils of varying abilities have more opportunities to interact in a nongrammar school system than they would do in a grammar school system.

It is still a binary choice in that the system is selective - you're either 'good' enough for a grammar school or you're not. The rest is akin to putting lipstick on a pig.

And who said there was? It was originally pointed out that parts of the press would ensure the GE was all about Brexit rather than education and the types of issue that GEs are usually about. The headlines would seem to confirm that. Nothing more.

Perhaps you need a bit longer - whenever you're ready Fwiw you completely missed the point of the original post - try reading the discussion instead of making a fool of yourself.

Remind me the last time the BBC News said anything vaguely as political. Take your time

Pretty much nailed on.

Like a political Rorschach test, curious how people are projecting contradictory meanings into May's decision to call an election: true believers like IDS think a victory will give May the mandate to neutralise opposition parties and the Lords that might obstruct a hard Brexit; yet others think it will give her the flexibility to pursue a softer settlement -indeed that was the interpretation of the currency markets today. Someone's going to be disappointed.

That's the one. We were also very good value in the 1-1 draw and arguably should have won -and that was without Schneiderlin, Wanyama and Boruc IIRC. I agree: just as we shouldn't necessarily go all out against the top sides; nor should we necessarily set up defensively against them either. In effect, horses for courses. Man City have defensive frailties, even with Kompany looking like his old self. In particular, their midfield isnt set up for a scrap -in those aforementioned games, we put the likes of Touré under pressure and reaped the rewards. Toure's great when he has time on the ball but a liability when it comes to rolling his sleeves up and tracking back. We frankly played into their hands by gifting the most technically-polished side in the league possession, though we desperately missed VVD and Romeu. In particular, we struggled without Romeu to keep possession and play through the lines when there was a sniff of a counterattack or an overload (as we were set up to exploit).